#1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8562493278519566041&hl=en
@ 31:00

✈ ☠ ✈ ☠ ✈

...the dealers in death have been building for this terrible new war. modern equipment is ready and waiting, and the sky is the new war testing ground. aerial armies have completely changed the character of warfare. planes one hundred times more powerful than anything heretofore used will zoom out of the sky. big cities will be their principle objectives. if there aren't enough bombers, mail pilots, trained in dropping mail bags, will release powerful bombs from converted mail planes. these deadly missiles will swiftly descend to make a gruesome shambles of civilian communities. the sky will be dark with monster planes, planes so stabilized that landings and takeoffs will be foolproof, planes controlled by wireless, responsive to the touch of mechanical men miles distant, planes built to carry heavy loads, a ton of bombs, poison gasses, death rays, liquid fire! long-range anti-aircraft guns will blaze away in a futile attempt to scare off these devils of the air. thousands of planes equipped with automatic machine guns, each this territory divided into aerial wings, with a 200 plane squadron for each wing. swift monsters ready to battle to the death far above the earth. winged of destruction, they will elude high-powered guns from below. their will drop from the skies to lay waste waste to factories, power stations, railroads, food and supply depots, homes, in a mass murder of civilians. there will be no limit to the territory covered in this next war; an entire continent can be spanned in ten hours by these winged demons. nothing can stop them. nothing is safe from their onslaught. countrysides and city streets will become blazing infernos as thousands of bombs crash in their midst...



a lurid but factual 1934 documentary on the abuses and collusion of the arms industry; the transcription here is part of a consciously fictitious coda, its function a forewarning of what these dilberts are going to get into next... but there is a strange, sinister-quaint dissonance listening to this after having encountered its derivations first. im situating it in a conflux of, not only the actual development and use of military technology from wwii onward, but of popular mechanics grover boners and francis e. dec: reeling off the (exaggerated) capabilities of weapons now immediately pertains to militarists, not the disgusted pacifists here; the roll of grimly clipped alarum, emotive description in conglomerate with numeric specification and reinforced repetitively -- one's real brain is a moon-brain contained in a brain-bank city on the moon. the filmmaker's affect has been denatured, robbed of fantastic terror by the fantasizing of terror enthusiasts, its urgency worn by further propagandists (and marketers) into a cultural rut where lunatics wallow. yet the intensity and poetic devices are still there, in the words and voice, and while the original affect has rotted they have gained a new resonance with validation: big cities really were bombed into oblivion by masses of bombers, this did result in enormous profits for the arms manufacturers and economic boons for their patron nations, and even the wireless planes, artificially stabilized, are now real, although the mechanical men havent been given clearance to supercede fleshlings (yet.)

...twenty-five hundred dollars a bomb. ninety ton tanks are motorized to a speed of a hundred miles an hour. they are manned by high-powered machine guns which function with equal precision whether the tank is in motion or standing still. infantry, completely mechanized, is machine-gun-equipped too. light artillery travels on fast trucks and is even mounted on airplanes...



what has happened is that claims which are ironclad in content (overwhelmingly accurate prescience) have had their form sapped and made ridiculous. in this case there is no deliberate attack, the drift of history has simply cut in, but the dissonance between quaint delivery and still-disturbing message makes the workings of the process here acutely visible through contrast: our immediate reception has been altered, but our ultimate evaluation of the message is still in accord with the narrator (because we know he was right) and his urgency, as what he was right about continues to operate today; and so the altered reception juts out into the light of conscious disconcertion.

ok i had gone into this thing about how statements can be undermined without being argued against, by repetition which necessarily functions as parody, but which doesnt always register as parody or any other attack at all, but it was superfluous and didnt really follow so fuck it. heres my feelings blog

#2


ED - HA HA HA HA

Edited by Crow ()

#3
it is most gracious toe spread the majestic beauty of fireworks to those in lesser countries without a 4th of july. thank you gorge W bush, and macho man randy savage for brings joy to the children of uganda, their smiling faces illuminated by splendor of freedom and democracxy bursting overhead

xXx-tianMMA88 4 weeks ago 14
#4
aaaaaaaa this video is really amazing. by the way when you mentioned "popular science grover boner francis e dec" the first thing that "popped" (haha!) into my head were those insane, rambling fuckingmachines.com machine descriptions that i used to spam in the old LF porn threads years ago hahaha...

i have to go in a second here (a ten minute second but, you know ) but i'll be able to reply in more detail tonight. but - if I understand what you're trying say is that, using that video as an example, the weakening correlation between the *way* a message is intended to be understood and the actual *way* the message is understood in fact helps the *content* of the message be understood because we are no longer burdened with peeling away the foamy gauze of appearance. and in fact, this is the exact inverse of undermining an argument without arguing against it by redirecting attention to the *appearance* of the argument rather than its content!

this is a quite fascinating way to look at it because it implies that there is some sort of logistic dimension that neither of the two actually exist on that facilitates their interaction. (I think this is what you're saying at least!) in your first example, distance was created by time, and in the second, distance is created by exploiting the fact parody (and I'm picturing a high-voiced montypython-esque guy parroting back whatever I say) is able to change the content merely by changing appearance.

*whew* ok, I think I understand what you're saying now. anyways this is a great thread, bbl later.................................

Edited by germanjoey ()

#5
i can't stop thinking of this idea of a plane of communication (on which lines of appearance and undestanding form) as being similar in structure to the plane of logistics (on which lines of tactics and strategy form) that reza talked about in cyclonopedia. perhaps both being instances of planes of paranoia (through which waltzes The Fool - the major acanan).

infrateal, did you ever read gravity's rainbow? i'm thinking of that part near the end, somewhere in the middle of Book 4, where the ghost of Brigadier General Pudding helps the counterforce (pig bodine and roger mexico IIRC) crash a stuffy nazi dinner party with by loudly boasting about all the disgusting foods that they want to eat at the party? barf bouillon! menstrual marmalade!~ ringworm relish! and then even some of the stuffy nazis start joining in the fun and help to ruin their own dinner party, much to the outrage of the others! i think this is the same thing!
#6
:)
#7
wow that's an amazing video and i immediately thought of dec wihtout having read your post yet