the only reason i have facebook is because i have friends all over the world who work as bike messengers and other blue collar jobs so they dont like check an email all the time and it's the only way i can be in contact with them. i have other friends who i have never talked to on facebook but correspond with via work email almost daily.
edit: also the facebook messenger service is a good way to contact people that's not as 'personal' as knowing their number and texting them / can be fluidly used on a cellphone as well as work / home computer so it's sometimes a quicker way of getting someone a message
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discipline posted:
yeah I was hoping to hear your experiences on this. did you feel any better or worse for it? what made you start up your facebook again?
i didn't end up using the computer less really i just visited different sites instead. but it isn't because i'm addicted to the computer so much as i use it to fill time because i'm mentally unable to do other things for some reason. i don't even feel any real surface anxiety when doing other things too. like i go downtown and do errands and stuff for hours and don't feel like i have to get back to the computer or something. and i can go days without using a computer and feel fine. so it is a really odd situation i guess because i spend hours and hours on it each day. usually just talking to people but also gathering info about things i'm looking into, like personal plans and research and stuff.
about facebook itself i think it helps now that you can set permissions, so i can hide my stupid political nonsense mostly from my family. the main reason/excuse i logged back in was that i wanted to join/track various pages/groups about local issues, because a lot of events are posted on there and news and stuff. but i also just wanted to post at people again on there, since my sister and mom use it a lot and so on.
my goal now is to sort of start transitioning towards talking with "real" people more about the sorts of things that i tend to talk about online, like about theories of the state and justice and so on. so i'm auditing one or two 4th-year/honours courses come january for that purpose. i think i'm more likely to end up doing something like part-time policy work than something specifically academic within the next few years but i want to really research stuff in detail so i can understand the issues at a high level for when i try to do some sort of grad work.
discipline posted:
85% of communication is nonverbal.
the clear solution is to augment our written language with a system of icons, symbols and diacritics in order to convey the nonverbal information.
gyrofry posted:
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actually the only reason i started posting here at all was that babyhueynewton made a post along the lines of that they didnt give a shit about the irl identity or politics of posters or doing banter or whatever they just wanted to read and make smart posts about leftish stuff and i felt like that was my attitude too
shennong posted:
i think both lf and this place are at least slightly intimidating or exclusive in that most of the regular posters have preexisting relationships and do things like address each other by irl first names or whatever which is pretty illegible to an outsider
this is actually why i'm here. i tried a few times to get into the 'deep, couldn't b/c no one used their lf names but everyone knew who everyone was. it was a real breath o' fresh air to come here and recognize pr. much everyone
discipline posted:
I hear you animedad, but isn't it rather strange that people feel more comfortable discussing certain things online isn't it? is it the anonymity or rather... ?
i think that people are struggling with their own RL identity and often feel very conflicted about their own lengthy and traumatic history. the internet has not dominated anyone nearly as much as real life itself (not yet, at least).
as you said, most of communication is nonverbal. when you struggle with people on the internet, it's a simple struggle of ideas. it is a mere war of words. IRL you are struggling against someone's demeanor, their authority, their power, their articulation, the look in their eye, the way they dress, their posture, their muscle and bone structure, their entire synthesis of life.
animedad posted:discipline posted:
I hear you animedad, but isn't it rather strange that people feel more comfortable discussing certain things online isn't it? is it the anonymity or rather... ?i think that people are struggling with their own RL identity and often feel very conflicted about their own lengthy and traumatic history. the internet has not dominated anyone nearly as much as real life itself (not yet, at least).
as you said, most of communication is nonverbal. when you struggle with people on the internet, it's a simple struggle of ideas. it is a mere war of words. IRL you are struggling against someone's demeanor, their authority, their power, their articulation, the look in their eye, the way they dress, their posture, their muscle and bone structure, their entire synthesis of life.
yeh, this. there is also that this is a board, which is a step removed in time from an instant messaging client, which is a giant leap removed in time from a face to face conversation with barrages of information coming in your face with expected reactions. people on the internet get the chance to be deliberate with their signs and that's to the advantage of, well, most of the people who take the internet seriously
shennong posted:
i looked at wddp after i saw it mentioned here but it seems to be like 95% about videogames and p&p rpgs and 4/5 posts are contentless shitposts. i prefer here where its like a bunch of seriousposts and then a tpaine nonsequitur post
ugh so where does one go to shitpost about poststructuralism
on forums, the lebenswelt is basically the subject-matter that tends to be discussed, but there is also the horizon of other things that you might share. idk, maybe some stuff from Alfred Schutz on contemporaries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Schutz#The_four_divisions_of_the_lifeworld
one of the interesting things about lurkers that begin posting is that when they become contemporaries by posting (lurkers don't exist to me), things are already structured in a way that they weren't for the "founders"
gyrofry posted:shennong posted:
i looked at wddp after i saw it mentioned here but it seems to be like 95% about videogames and p&p rpgs and 4/5 posts are contentless shitposts. i prefer here where its like a bunch of seriousposts and then a tpaine nonsequitur postugh so where does one go to shitpost about poststructuralism
d&d
Then lf got killed and I made an account on the 'dp but barely any topics interested me and a lot of the lf posters I liked had been ejected by the time I got there. Then the rhizzown got started and it was enough of a tabula rasa for me to feel comfortable posTing whatever I wanted and the cool posters and topix were present.
Thats my story... Remembr me
shennong posted:
as far as this forum goes i dunno who the lurkers are, i assume if you found this place you were prob reading lf at some point. i think both lf and this place are at least slightly intimidating or exclusive in that most of the regular posters have preexisting relationships and do things like address each other by irl first names or whatever which is pretty illegible to an outsider. some posters also have a tendency to give "recognised" posters the benefit of the doubt when they say something weird or stupid or insufficiently poststructuralist or whatever and that doesn't get extended to outsiders as much (i think this was more of a problem with lf than it is here but i dunno).
actually the only reason i started posting here at all was that babyhueynewton made a post along the lines of that they didnt give a shit about the irl identity or politics of posters or doing banter or whatever they just wanted to read and make smart posts about leftish stuff and i felt like that was my attitude too
the people who use others' real names do so without permission and with the intention of disturbing and semi-threatening them
many lfers have individual relationship because they chat on AIM
this place is just as much a hierarchical community as any other despite its name
also im sorry to say this but wddp is terrible and filled with idiot children and melts down constantly about dumb shit because half the forum will unironically say things like "wddp saved my life" and really mean it. and then you end up with trust fund princesses telling everyone else about how they're privileged in between posts about spending literally 300-500 dollars bi-monthly on their hair.
i think the whole thing about internet interactions and the ways the differ from offline ones is a really interesting think to think about + discuss, but this OP is kinda all over the place.
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christmas_cheer posted:
sometimes no means yes and thats why we should trust body language and pheromones
for me its just better to route my taste for radical ideas off into a bunch of pseudonyms and never have to reconcile them with the me my boss knows