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Lets read: The Green Book


In honor of our late comrade and recognized LF hero Muammar Gaddafi, I thought we could take some time out of our busy schedule working on our minecraft servers to read his theoretical opus, The Green Book. In it, Mr. Gaddafi outlines the Third International Theory. He writes that the legal system of a society can not depend on the political situation, and must be based on custom and religion. It also proclaims the need to abolish wage labor and to give employees the rights to the products that they manufacture. It professes to realize the ideal form of social coexistence, in which, along with social justice, there has to be a strong power, popular representation and national identity.

The book (downloadable here: http://www.mediafire.com/?otkmymmnj14) is not very long, and is divided into three sections:

  • Part One, The Solution of the Problem of Democracy
    Part Two, The Solution of the Economic Problem
    Part Three, The Social Basis of The Third Universal
    Theory


So it pretty much covers all the bases on how to make the ideal government. Once we are ready to start reading we can pick a time by which to discuss the first section, The Solution of the Problem of Democracy. Hopefully by educating ourselves about the Third Universal Theory we can oneday lend ourselves towards recreating an advanced and just nation state the likes of which Gaddafi, may he rest in peace, was architect of before being foiled by the Jews in the recent conflict and assassinated.
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ok why not
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i'm down for this BABY
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will this get me laid?
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undoubtedly yes
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aerdil posted:
will this get me laid?



yes, even if only in the confines of the torture / rape chambers you have set up to deal with people who oppose your righteous rule.

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Spoiler he does not solve the problems of democracy nor the economic problem nor does he establish anything that could be called universal.
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Please don't troll.
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christmas_cheer posted:
Spoiler he does not solve the problems of democracy nor the economic problem nor does he establish anything that could be called universal.

I look forward to your dissection of his theoretical views!

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Crow posted:
I look forward to your dissection of his theoretical views!


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christmas_cheer posted:
Spoiler he does not solve the problems of democracy nor the economic problem nor does he establish anything that could be called universal.



do you want a fish pie?

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I'm assuming that everyone who posted itt is going to read and discuss with us! That means we now have seven people participating. What kind of deadline should we be talking for the first section? A week from now? (w/ discussion obviously going on while we read...)
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i am literally going to print this out and read it on the flight to new york and get detained and held without trial
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I was trying to find that book BF was talking about, but it wasnt there, so i got these:

  • The Origins of the Libyan Nation: Colonial legacy, exile, and the emergence of a new nation-state
  • Libya: The Vilified Revolution
  • Gadafi: Voice from the Desert


but i did not get the green book. it is of avail on-line
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I put a link in the OP i believe
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check the op....... some crows...........
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Crow posted:
The Origins of the Libyan Nation: Colonial legacy, exile, and the emergence of a new nation-state


lmao, this book is $130

Crow posted:
Gadafi: Voice from the Desert


and a used copy of this is $122

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i just meant i didnt get a physical copy of it from the library because i didnt want to have that on my library record. lord.
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how come we're not also reading escape to hell, which is gaddafi's short stories & essays? they are very good. i read them, they inspired me
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and BF recommended Libyan sandstorm, by John K Cooley, not the Green Book

Impper posted:
how come we're not also reading escape to hell, which is gaddafi's short stories & essays? they are very good. i read them, they inspired me


let's read this. Lets Read This. Too.

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i will read those books
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penitent
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have any of yall read saddam husseins novels
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el area metro
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well the library here definitely doesn't have any of those books but if I can find any of them online I'm down to read them too
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I'm out; I learnt all I need to know about libya from herodotus
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noooo lykourgos u have to read this with us.

the book isn't even about libya btw i don't know why y'all are trying to make it about libya. he doesn't even talk about libya in the book.
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Yea Id like to hear lykourgous input, I have only a minor classical education, even less chinese
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has anybody read ilich ramirez carlos the jackal sanchez's book revolutionary islam
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gyrofry posted:
has anybody read ilich ramirez carlos the jackal sanchez's book revolutionary islam



no but now i want to

seems similar to this: http://www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/etext/countries/panislamic/islam1007.html

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according to some stupid iranian MEK website he converted to islam in 76? whoa? cool if true.

Marxist revolutionaries are inherently Muslim.

gwahha this book sounds awesome

The rallying of Carlos, a precursor of the mutations of Islam at the dawn of the 21st century—with arms and baggage of Marxist ideology and third-worldist—is, in fact, properly the indicator board of the Islamist chain of reaction which is beginning to prime itself under our eyes: from Marxist revolutionary to Islam revolutionary, the vertiginous convergence of the Green Islamic and the Red Communist, Ilitch Ramirez tries his best to explain on more than 200 pages, how the third world Marxism has become a formidable conceptual matrix of a new theological-political vision of the world. The deleterious fusion which has engendered a mutant and terribly aggressive form of Islam and of which we are hardly beginning to take measures against through the bias of attacks which have blindly struck the civilian populations in the four corners of the world.

Revolutionary Islam constitutes a work of reference because there can be found posed in clear terms the inescapable confrontation of civilization between the Islamic world and the western model. Let us again thank the editor Pierre Guillame de Roux for having dared to publish it! Indeed no one since Huntington had gone as far, separating the clearly minded Islamologists who are Bernard Lewis and Anne-Marie Delcambre. It is the reader in the mirror that he acknowledges to effect; because if Ilitch Ramirez himself rejects the formula of the “shock of civilizations,” he nevertheless explains, from A to Z, an irreducible antagonism between liberal democracy and fidelity to the law of the Koran such as that which he conceived!

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of course. there are few if any meaningful or irreconcilable differences between revolutionary islam and revolutionary leftism
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babyfinland posted:

gyrofry posted:
has anybody read ilich ramirez carlos the jackal sanchez's book revolutionary islam

no but now i want to

seems similar to this: http://www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/etext/countries/panislamic/islam1007.html

is limonov really a muslim

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limonov didn't convert afaik, he only said that he was increasingly begining to see the appeal of islam
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Okay it's only 43 pages, so I'm in, at least for the first section. When do we start.
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i will read this, if only to preempt the tiny but frightening possibility of my ever holding any position of significant influence
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I had that shit on audiobook in gradeschool yall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haC8ZFYkLVA
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oh why not, ill join in too. set a schedule OP. give at least a week a section IMHO
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Enjoy this propagandistic tribute made by some Italian guy complete with anime soundtrack to get you guys in the mood for the big read.

As ridiculous as that description sounds it's actually kind of well done.

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discipline posted:
I'll do it too and lmao @ the babbies who think that it would be this and not the multitude of your other crimes against humanity that would keep you from glory "+ success in this world



agreed, I'm not sure how reading the green book is going to ruin your life/career. I guess it depends where you work (how would they even know if you didn't tell them?) but around here there are frequent political discussions and arguments, and being called a marxist commie tea sipping monarchist is not equivalent to being fired/demoted

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