#561

discipline posted:
I used to live in a city where it was basically impossible to get around without a car and it was so miserable. now I live in london and I have no idea why people drive cars here lol



gd, i really wish i was going to school there but now i apparently might have to go to LA of all places.

Myfanwy posted:
Is this the right thread for this article



yep. my guess is that China gets more dollars to buy US assets abroad and get access to oil. roads are a pretty good way to do it. there seem to be plans to do the same in the US too: http://blogs.reuters.com/muniland/2011/09/10/the-infrastructure-privatization-bank/

shennong posted:

cleanhands posted:

shennong posted:
learning to be a bicycle mechanic was probably the most useful thing i ever spent time & money on

thats boss as hell + i wanna do it too

its not very hard if you're working mostly on old steel frame bikes, you basically need to learn how to service a cup & cone bearing, adjust brakes and drivetrain and you're most of the way there! i learned from an old indian engineer who teaches mechanics to fix up abandoned american bikes in the carribean for sale there. there might be a similar community learning program where you're at. otherwise you could do worse than getting a bookwarez copy of barnett's repair manual and working through it as problems come up on whatever you're riding



that sounds like a really good idea. it might sound like a treacherous anarchist plot or something since it doesn't involve immediately seizing state power, but i've been wondering if stuff teaching practical skills like that that could be organized on a large scale. when a program works, word spreads and it gets replicated elsewhere, etc.

maoism is a practical skill

babyfinland posted:

State prosecutors probe alleged plot to kill Greek prime minister

http://intelnews.org/2012/03/16/01-949/



wtf

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#562
theres a bike place near me that does maintenance workshops, i might drop bucks on attending because it seems like useful stuff for the foreseeable future
#563
yall didn't learn bike maintenance when yall were kids?!
#564

cleanhands posted:
theres a bike place near me that does maintenance workshops, i might drop bucks on attending because it seems like useful stuff for the foreseeable future



yeah, do it. once you have the basics down you can build up your toolbox pretty cheaply esp. if you're working on older frames, there are a few specialised things you'll need but not many

girdles_gone_wild posted:
yall didn't learn bike maintenance when yall were kids?!



almost everyone i knew as a kid just rode mtbs into the ground, we knew brakes and drivetrain and that was it, we werent super interested in why our bottom brackets were making that noise

#565
http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2012/03/the-japan-debt-disaster-and-chinas-nonrebalancing.html

Pettis drops a joint outlining a bleak future for Japan and China, i dont think ive seen him this pessimistic in a while
#566
Roads are actually one of the most egalitarian spaces in society. Rich and poor alike, they all have to wait in line and you’re just as likely to be killed by a proletarian pickup as a Mercedes.
#567
what the fuck is a proletarian pickup
#568
a working class chatup line
#569

girdles_gone_wild posted:
yall didn't learn bike maintenance when yall were kids?!

where do you live that they do this

#570

cleanhands posted:

girdles_gone_wild posted:
yall didn't learn bike maintenance when yall were kids?!

where do you live that they do this



ggw is like... the southernest southern boy

#571
this woud be good for hints to watch about what's going on imo: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-23/mf-global-s-corzine-ordered-funds-moved-to-jpmorgan-memo-says.html

basically assets issued by financial intermediaries far exceed liabilities, so there is a huge drain on deposits (liabilities of financial intermediaries). this is in both the US and EU
#572

jools posted:

cleanhands posted:

girdles_gone_wild posted:
yall didn't learn bike maintenance when yall were kids?!

where do you live that they do this

ggw is like... the southernest southern boy



paw! paw! i dun broke my wheeliespinner on them there niggerheads* out on route twennyfarve!

*that's what they call cat's eyes down there.

#573
welp. time to prepare for ww3
#574

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
paw! paw! i dun broke my wheeliespinner on them there niggerheads* out on route twennyfarve!

*that's what they call cat's eyes down there.



spoken like a true australian

#575
lmao

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/03/world-bank-nominee-kim-under-fire-for-dying-for-growth-book.html

Some economists are arguing that Dying for Growth, jointly edited by Dr Kim and published in 2000, puts too great a focus on health policy over broader economic growth.

“Dr Kim would be the first World Bank president ever who seems to be anti-growth,” said William Easterly, professor of economics at New York University. “Even the severest of World Bank critics like me think that economic growth is what we want.”

Dr Kim, who is president of Dartmouth College and a former head of the HIV/Aids programme at the World Health Organisation, was a surprise pick for the top job at the World Bank, which traditionally goes to a US citizen.

Little is known about his views on economic policy because his background is in health. But if he cannot set out a strong vision for how the World Bank will fuel growth, it may boost the campaigns of heavyweight rivals such as Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, the Nigerian finance minister and former World Bank managing director.

Dr Kim’s book contains several inflammatory lines. For example, the introduction, which he and two other academics co-authored, says: “The studies in this book present evidence that the quest for growth in GDP and corporate profits has in fact worsened the lives of millions of women and men.”

But colleagues of Dr Kim and officials at the US Treasury said that when taken in context he was simply arguing that the distribution of gains from economic growth decides whether it makes life better for the poorest. They pointed out that such criticisms were widespread in the late 1990s and the World Bank had since changed its practices to take account of them.



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#577
the world bank does?
#578
lol, Paul Krugman is writing about prisons now
#579
i dont like to beg, but, it would be nice if you could sometimes elaborate on your 'krugman sucks lol' linkposts for those of us in the cheap seats who arent good at deciphering economics bullshit
#580
there's nothing to decipher! "economics" is the assumption that there is some sort of agreed upon definition of the economy and a uniform body of knowledge about it. Krugman is a paradigmatic liberal as well as an economist, so that's why i pick on him
#581
we did it guys

#582
Crikey, ginger! It's mick-smashing time.
#583
i like how they start putting their other features list in the style of golden age comic titles, but give up after the second one
#584
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/03/millions-go-on-strike-in-spain.html

REPORTING FROM MADRID -- Millions of Spaniards stayed off the job Thursday to protest new labor laws that allow companies to opt out of collective bargaining pacts, reduce wages and fire workers more easily.

The general strike stalled public transportation and shut factories and schools across the country. Angry confrontations erupted between hordes of protesters and riot police, but no major violence was reported.

It was the first such large-scale labor action against the policies of conservative Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy and the strongest public rebuke yet of his austerity measures. In office for just three months, Rajoy has focused on cutting spending to shrink the country's yawning budget deficit and to meet European Union rules on fiscal discipline, which previous governments routinely flouted.

Rajoy is to unveil his 2012 budget Friday, including Spain's harshest cuts yet, up to $50 billion worth. EU officials and financial markets are eager for a commitment by Madrid to frugality, afraid that the long-running euro debt crisis might otherwise flare up badly again and engulf the Eurozone's fourth-largest economy.

But Spaniards are holding their breath for possibly punishing cuts in welfare, education and health, hallmarks of the European welfare state that are now in danger across the continent.

"Food, fuel -- all the prices are going up," said Carlos Rodriguez, 50, an elevator mechanic on strike. "Now with this labor reform, they can reduce our pay and increase our hours. We don't agree with that."

Hundreds of thousands of protesters packed town squares across the country. In Madrid's central Puerta del Sol plaza, hundreds staged a sit-in outside the doors of a department store and yelled "Shame!" at police manning barricades that allowed store employees to cross picket lines. "Without the uniform, you are one of us!" they yelled.

#585
http://www.nanex.net/aqck/2970.html
#586
actually there is some stuff to decipher but it's mostly based on arcane knowledge (statistics and methodology, national accounting, Walter Lippman). like this seems very scientific and authoritative and everything, but you would have a really hard time finding anyone to provide a rationale for dis shit: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/31/floodgates/

then there's also the stuff related to Bourdieu that i was talking about:

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2012/03/on-bank-lending-creating-deposits-and-paul-krugmans-response.html
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/banking-mysticism-continued/


and khamsek, check this out: http://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/?docid=1512

notice the emphasis on the institutional transformation, reference to Hilferding, etc. the post-Keynesians/Kaleckians are worth taking a look at once in a while. the post-Keynesian short-run and classical (Marxian) long-run can be merged into a consistent approach: http://www.jourdan.ens.fr/levy/dle2012g.pdf
#587
ok, so if you want Correct Opinions on the SCOTUS thing, i was discussing this with somebody:

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/29/business/jonathan-gruber-health-cares-mr-mandate.html

“My general thought about the mandate is if insurance is affordable and accessible, most people will buy it anyway,” said David Cutler, an economist at Harvard and longtime collaborator of Mr. Gruber’s.

Others, like Paul Starr, a Princeton sociologist, say they believe Mr. Gruber’s work does not account for how hard it will be to enforce the mandate.

“There is this groupthink about how important the mandate is,” Mr. Starr says. “Most people don’t understand or won’t acknowledge how weak the enforcement mechanism is.”

Mr. Starr said he thought Mr. Gruber in particular was overstating the effectiveness of the mandate because “it’s his baby.”

That said, it is difficult for too many other experts to categorically refute Mr. Gruber’s work, since he has nearly cornered the market on the technical science behind these sorts of predictions. Other models exist — built by nonprofits like the RAND Corporation or private consultancies like the Lewin Group — but they all use Mr. Gruber’s work as a benchmark, according to Jean Abraham, a health economist at the University of Minnesota and former senior economist in both the Obama and George W. Bush administrations.

“He’s brought a level of science to an issue that would otherwise be just opinion,” Mr. Cutler says. “He’s really the only person who has been doing all this careful modeling for so long. He’s the only person you can go to for that kind of thing, which is why the White House reached out to him in the first place.”

Mr. Obama had made health care reform a cornerstone of his campaign, and wanted to announce a credible proposal quickly after taking office. But members of the Obama administration’s transition team said they had inherited an executive branch that had vastly underinvested in modeling research on health care, especially compared to the technical modeling that had been done in areas like tax policy.

“Creating a good model from scratch would have taken months, maybe years,” said Lawrence H. Summers, who was the director of President Obama’s National Economic Council and had advised Mr. Gruber on his dissertation when they were at Harvard.

....

When Mr. Romney succeeded Ms. Swift in 2003, he proposed using an individual mandate to help the state achieve universal health care coverage. Mr. Gruber was again brought in to analyze the idea, which he had not formally modeled before.

“Romney saw it as a traditional Republican moral issue of personal responsibility, getting rid of the free riders in the system, not as much of an economic issue,” Mr. Gruber said. “Not only were the Republicans for it, the liberals hated it. People forget that.”

Mr. Obama had vehemently opposed an individual mandate before his election in 2008.

After the Massachusetts plan passed in 2006, Arnold Schwarzenegger, then the Republican governor of California, invited Mr. Gruber to Sacramento to help model a similar proposal.

“That was awesome,” Mr. Gruber says, his eyes widening at the memory. “I got to see the sword from Conan the Barbarian.”



so yeah, like the mandate is just for the insurance companies that has been turned into a campaign thing. a serious way to deal with it would still be single-payer and shit is really dysfunctional either way.

e: oh, then there is the CBO/OMB bullshit

Along with these credentials, Mr. Gruber’s position as an adviser to the influential Congressional Budget Office also left him perfectly positioned to advise the White House on health reform.

“The most important arbiter of everything was the C.B.O.,” said Neera Tanden, who was a senior adviser for health reform at the Department of Health and Human Services.

The C.B.O.’s assessment of a bill’s efficacy and costs strongly influences political debate, but the office does not publicly reveal how it calculates those numbers.

“We knew the numbers he gave us would be close to where the C.B.O. was likely to come out,” Ms. Tanden said. She was right.

After Mr. Gruber helped the administration put together the basic principles of the proposal, the White House lent him to Capitol Hill to help Congressional staff members draft the specifics of the legislation.



http://www.ombwatch.org/

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#588
oh, AND... i found out what the recovery thing is all about. it's something i've been suspecting for a while and we talked about earlier in this thread (notably in relation to a paper that khamsek linked). the national accounting systems have completely broken down. the growth that was reported was just income imputed to rising prices of financial assets (fictitious capital).
#589

dm posted:
oh, AND... i found out what the recovery thing is all about. it's something i've been suspecting for a while and we talked about earlier in this thread (notably in relation to a paper that khamsek linked). the national accounting systems have completely broken down. the growth that was reported was just income imputed to rising prices of financial assets (fictitious capital).



lmao

#590
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#591
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#592
USSA
#593

dm posted:
oh, AND... i found out what the recovery thing is all about. it's something i've been suspecting for a while and we talked about earlier in this thread (notably in relation to a paper that khamsek linked). the national accounting systems have completely broken down. the growth that was reported was just income imputed to rising prices of financial assets (fictitious capital).

i dont read, think about, or know anything and i still assumed this was the case

#594
#595

dm posted:
actually there is some stuff to decipher but it's mostly based on arcane knowledge (statistics and methodology, national accounting, Walter Lippman). like this seems very scientific and authoritative and everything, but you would have a really hard time finding anyone to provide a rationale for dis shit: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/31/floodgates/

then there's also the stuff related to Bourdieu that i was talking about:

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2012/03/on-bank-lending-creating-deposits-and-paul-krugmans-response.html
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/30/banking-mysticism-continued/


and khamsek, check this out: http://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/?docid=1512

notice the emphasis on the institutional transformation, reference to Hilferding, etc. the post-Keynesians/Kaleckians are worth taking a look at once in a while. the post-Keynesian short-run and classical (Marxian) long-run can be merged into a consistent approach: http://www.jourdan.ens.fr/levy/dle2012g.pdf

i got into reading lippman a while back, then took a detour because some dude told me to 'dive in' to reading baudrillard, i should go back because its was like, whoa, this guy figured out so much stuff just by himself

#596

cleanhands posted:

i scrolled quickly past this post but from the color scheme im assuming its about weed

#597

cleanhands posted:



i wanna know who teh greatest living novelist is/// my money is on John Norman

#598
are you suggesting impper is dead
#599

discipline posted:
that's beautiful, that's beautiful, that's like.. when they reconfigured the unemployment rate under clinton



yeah i have a Theory (that you can use if you like) about a slow deterioration in the integrity of the national accounts. combine with Minsky's FIH and the transformation since WWII ftw

cleanhands posted:

dm posted:
oh, AND... i found out what the recovery thing is all about. it's something i've been suspecting for a while and we talked about earlier in this thread (notably in relation to a paper that khamsek linked). the national accounting systems have completely broken down. the growth that was reported was just income imputed to rising prices of financial assets (fictitious capital).

i dont read, think about, or know anything and i still assumed this was the case



well yeah, it's obvious, but it's also possible to figure out a bit about what has been happening by looking through the errors

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#600
gd, it's taken them long enough on this one: http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/04/01/how-to-teach-economics-after-the-financial-crisis

watching what happens with that will be important for looking at what the next attempt to re-legitimize capitalism will look like. the other thing to watch there is the Soros-funded INET. the present economic orthodoxy is only really suitable to finance and is useless for other factions of capital, so there is definitely an interest on the part of capital to have more competent experts.

the economic orthodoxy can no longer reproduce itself. before 2008, i regularly got attacked for the kind of criticsms i make really casually now. the same thing happened during the Great Depression (not to mention before that as Marx documents in Theories of Surplus Value).

conventional wisdom has it that the Great Depression heralded the "Keynesian revolution", which is ridiculous if you think about it for a second since his General Theory was published in 1936. the portrait of capitalism you find in General Theory has nothing to do with whatever exactly "Keynesianism" is supposed to be, save for like one chapter.

here's a great quote from Paul Baran on it:

The Political Economy of Growth (1957) posted:
Tardily and reluctantly, economics began taking cognizance of the new situation. Although inspired by the immediate problem of counteracting depression and unemployment, and consequently addressing itself primarily to issues of the short-run, the "New Economics" of John Maynard Keynes carried implications that transcended by far its original scope. In an attempt at clarification of the determinants of short-run changes in the levels of output, employment, and income, Keynesian economics found itself face to face with the entire irrationality, the glaring discrepancy between productive potentialities and the productive performance characteristic of the capitalist order. At the risk of grossly exaggerating the intellectual performance of Keynes, it might be said that what Hegel accomplished with respect to German classical philosophy, Keynes achieved with regard to neoclassical economics. Operating with the customary tools of conventional economic theory, remaining well within the confines of "pure economics," faithfully refraining from considering the socioeconomic process as a whole, the Keynesian analysis advanced to the very limits of bourgeois economic theorizing, and exploded its entire structure. Indeed, it amounted to an "official" admission on the part of the "Holy See" of conventional economics that instability, a strong tendency towards stagnation, chronic underutilization of human and material resources, are inherent in the capitalist system.



properly understood, Keynes can be used as a weapon against modern day Keynesians, who don't "get" any of those parts. the actual changes in economic organization were due to the war and the only influence that Keynes had was in the UK. this "admission" was quickly retracted and Paul Samuelson's book soon took over:

Joan Robinson posted:
The bastard Keynesian doctrine, evolved in the United States, invaded the economic faculties of the world, floating on the wings of the almighty dollar.



the legacy there is what you learn in a standard economics class. that was the "Keynesian" phase, which was replaced with the "monetarism" used to rationalize the neoliberal turn in the 70's.

TIME magazine 1969:



so yeah, that's the secret to economics or w/e

e:

David Harvey has started posting his Volume II lectures.

in addition to Marx, the history of economic thought, and world history proper, serious economic theory would incorporate: some sort of ontology, creditor-debtor relations ("money"), accounting, geography, imperialism/war, colonialism/displacement/dispossession, gender, migration, cultural theory, urban planning, dependency theory/world-systems theory, etc.

it's impossible for one person to do alone.

you also have to have some sort of understanding of states, which means legal traditions, social norms, religion, etc.

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