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tpaine posted:

haha the drums in that parody vid holy shit

courtesy snipe

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afaik wal-mart's entire model as a store is based on loss leaders and other uses of "dynamic" pricing strategies w/ margins so thin that if those models failed they would have to close most of their stores, but instead they regularly succeed

that was a few years ago though
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but i digress, into discussions of price and value, away from the proper discussions of Marxists
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babyfinland posted:

my stupid white man's brain is like all i have to do is buy nothing but loss leaders for the rest of my life and i win



if you had access to their algorithm and knowledge of their supply chain and plotted out cost of travel you could probably do exactly this in a way that would impress EVEN SLUMLORD.

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sure let's do it
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hERE's an interesting article OP called

Who Captures Value in Global Supply Chains?
Case Nokia N95 Smartphone


Careful studies of industry sources and our interviews suggest that the final assembly/manufacturing cost of the N95 is € 11.5, i.e., 2% of the pre-tax final sales price.7

Thus, even if the final assembly is the essential part of the supply chain that meets the eyes of laymen (not least because of the “Made in ...” labeling found on manufactured goods), the value added it commands is quite low. Table 2 presents a value-added breakdown of the N95’s pre-tax retail price of €546: Nokia captures 50% of the value, first-tier hardware vendors 11%, first-tier (external, non-cross-licensed) software/intangible vendors 3%, second- and higher-tier vendors (vendors-of-vendors) 19%, distribution/wholesale 3.5%, and retail 11%.

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daddyholes posted:

babyfinland posted:

my stupid white man's brain is like all i have to do is buy nothing but loss leaders for the rest of my life and i win



if you had access to their algorithm and knowledge of their supply chain and plotted out cost of travel you could probably do exactly this in a way that would impress EVEN SLUMLORD.


impress AND TURN ON

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the idea that anything but labor is ever sold at a loss is hilarious capitalist propaganda
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on a related note one point of the paper is that the value added by workers in China, where most of the phones are constructed, is 2% of the final price; the high-value-added (in the non-Marxist business sense of value as captured in price) work is "branding, development, design, and management", all mostly done in EU-27 countries. It goes on to mention that while Nokia is Finnish, the ownership of these processes through shareholding is 90% foreign, although Finland's recorded account surplus is inflated because companies buying their own shares is not "appropriately recorded" and in 2005 Nokia's purchases of its own share "amounted to 2.3% of Finnish GDP" lol
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i dont know what the fuck you said but is it good for finland
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how many smartphones do you have?
that is too many
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babyfinland posted:

i dont know what the fuck you said but is it good for finland



Veru good, my friend. It notes that when the same phone is sold in the U.S. and Germany, the U.S. phones are built in Beijing while the German phones are built in Salo

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sweet
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EmanuelaOrlandi i am glad you are pursuing good practices and enlightened self interest by using your work resources for work tasks only. Look forward to a positive mention on your 360 (please destroy this post after reading though!!)
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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

I currently have an iPhone 5 personal phone, an iPhone 4S work phone, and a Nokia flip phone work phone. I have some extra scratch and my Nokia workphone is so old and beat up I'm considering buying a new phone from AT&Ts selection of prepaid smart phones, but I'm having second thoughts. Even in today's world, as a member of the app generations elite, is three smart phones crossing the line? At what point do I go from being a counterculture trendsetter to a corporate lackey and slave to consumer society?

In short, how many smartphones can one own before its necessary to admit you've sacrificed all you Marxist values, that you're no longer a revolutionary, that you've sold out?

Okay, this thread is going nowhere and I know why. We need to approach this from the other direction. 150 trillion smartphones, for example, are definitely too many. Can we be comfortable with a hundred thousand, to start? From there we can narrow in on the real value.

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I think four is too many, three is borderline. I also like having a non-smartphone abecause it makes me look more authentic, like i sell drugs instead if just being a normal worker in the urban logistics industry. And as Jools, TPaine, and wasted have pointed out so well, i am a hipster who craves the ever elusive Authebtic.
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my friend who has a real job with a real company (not a self-employed "job" were he rides his dum-ass bike around NYC delivering text messages on his 19 phones) only uses his business phone. He regularly deals drugs on it and I always ask him if he is worried about his company finding out and he tells him he would find a lot humour being fired for buying cocaine on his work phone so he's totally cool with it.

What I'm trying to say is you should try and be funny and not be some dumb hipster jew.
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your friends a dumbass hey hth
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yeah saving 80$ a month on phone Bill is dumb
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also poor it seems?
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slumlord posted:

the question is irrelevant, the relevant point is that you clearly have too many close thread



someone is clearly mad their thread was gassed and is now lashing out at our most venerable member here at the rhizzone. i will not stand idle while someone defaces a drew thread, which, in aggregate, stands as a monument to the pinnacle of posting excellence. mods???

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daddyholes posted:

hERE's an interesting article OP called

Who Captures Value in Global Supply Chains?
Case Nokia N95 Smartphone


Careful studies of industry sources and our interviews suggest that the final assembly/manufacturing cost of the N95 is € 11.5, i.e., 2% of the pre-tax final sales price.7

Thus, even if the final assembly is the essential part of the supply chain that meets the eyes of laymen (not least because of the “Made in ...” labeling found on manufactured goods), the value added it commands is quite low. Table 2 presents a value-added breakdown of the N95’s pre-tax retail price of €546: Nokia captures 50% of the value, first-tier hardware vendors 11%, first-tier (external, non-cross-licensed) software/intangible vendors 3%, second- and higher-tier vendors (vendors-of-vendors) 19%, distribution/wholesale 3.5%, and retail 11%.



http://mutualist.org/id10.html

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who will be mad if i put slumlord in ifap
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blinkandwheeze posted:

who will be mad if i put slumlord in ifap

im always mad

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why would you do that
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Do it to that other one!
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swampman posted:

blinkandwheeze posted:
who will be mad if i put slumlord in ifap
im always mad


that's your secret

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i like eveyront
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everyoen
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blinkandwheeze posted:

who will be mad if i put slumlord in ifap

i will cry, but i always cry, especially about swampman posts

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impersonating someone whos a forum Celebrity is pretty low. just my opinion as someone whos been a victim of forums Identity Theft before
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make skylark fyad-only
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do it to julia
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gyrofry posted:

why would you do that



sometimes i don't know the power of my own posts.

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