HenryKrinkle posted:i can't help but get the feeling that this hardmarxbros forum views reproductive rights as a petty "first world problem" or "bourgeois liberal" issue that isn't worthy of defending w/ any zeal.
threads the rhizzone has had in the past on this issue seem to confirm this.
activists in texas and ohio (much derided "liberals," probably) are attempting to defend women from a reactionary onslaught and all we're doing here is jacking off to meaningless discussion of religion.
shouldnt you wait for people to say this stuff to complain about it
i can dig up stuff from older rhizzone threads and even from the SA-LF era.
i personally wanted this thread to remain closed but since it's open i'll just complain about it.
roseweird posted:Dusz posted:its funny people fear death because death is simply the coolest thing there is
death is wonderful. no one fears death, rather they fear the demands death places on life.
the big thing that turns me off religion is that most of them promise eternal life as a "reward"? it makes much more sense as a punishment imo
HenryKrinkle posted:this hardmarxbros forum views reproductive rights as a petty "first world problem" or "bourgeois liberal" issue that isn't worthy of defending w/ any zeal.
activists in texas and ohio (much derided "liberals," probably) are attempting to defend women from a reactionary onslaught.
thank you henry for keepin' it 100. i'll be fair and say that in tx, if we could even get as many male liberals from our 5 major cities to show up as there are female liberals, independents, socialists, unaffliateds, and dem cogs showing from all over, it would be easier to control/counteract the process inside the capitols, as is we're stretched thin doing double duty.on actions and logistics for all actions
roseweird: you are painfully wrong about needing to understand evangelical Christianity or Catholicism to crack the cases happening in TX, OH, and N.C. the slice of primary election mongoloids that mobilize for the men and women of power in TX and OH are u.s. taliban types, yes (the quiverful families that have been coming out are very spooky) however, most of this boils down to personal political fights like the one in TX b/w Sen Patrick and David Dewhurst or Glen Hegar's race for comptroller. these men are complete idolaters at this point, none are of real conviction and have only been playing Christian the last decade or so. don't know as much about OH and Kasich but very similar pissing matches are churning these shitstorms, i'm sure.
HenryKrinkle posted:i can't help but get the feeling that this hardmarxbros forum views reproductive rights as a petty "first world problem" or "bourgeois liberal" issue that isn't worthy of defending w/ any zeal.
threads the rhizzone has had in the past on this issue seem to confirm this.
activists in texas and ohio (much derided "liberals," probably) are attempting to defend women from a reactionary onslaught and all we're doing here is jacking off to meaningless discussion of religion.
good on the liberals! theyre keeping the chairs warm for us
roseweird posted:the big thing that turns me off religion is that most of them promise eternal life as a "reward"? it makes much more sense as a punishment imo
eternal life is not living interminably. it is true life, freed from the relative demands of life as you know it. eternal life is life beyond life.
hah. most religious people think of it as a free trip to disneyland, except it lasts forever.
your description of eternal life is also a good description of being dead. death is the best and can't be beat, i'm telling you
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HenryKrinkle posted:i can't help but get the feeling that this hardmarxbros forum views reproductive rights as a petty "first world problem" or "bourgeois liberal" issue that isn't worthy of defending w/ any zeal.
threads the rhizzone has had in the past on this issue seem to confirm this.
activists in texas and ohio (much derided "liberals," probably) are attempting to defend women from a reactionary onslaught and all we're doing here is jacking off to meaningless discussion of religion.
riddle me this krinkle: would a bunch of nerds acting all weird and worried about this shit in the thread be better
SariBari posted:HenryKrinkle posted:this hardmarxbros forum views reproductive rights as a petty "first world problem" or "bourgeois liberal" issue that isn't worthy of defending w/ any zeal.
activists in texas and ohio (much derided "liberals," probably) are attempting to defend women from a reactionary onslaught.thank you henry for keepin' it 100. i'll be fair and say that in tx, if we could even get as many male liberals from our 5 major cities to show up as there are female liberals, independents, socialists, unaffliateds, and dem cogs showing from all over, it would be easier to control/counteract the process inside the capitols, as is we're stretched thin doing double duty.on actions and logistics for all actions
roseweird: you are painfully wrong about needing to understand evangelical Christianity or Catholicism to crack the cases happening in TX, OH, and N.C. the slice of primary election mongoloids that mobilize for the men and women of power in TX and OH are u.s. taliban types, yes (the quiverful families that have been coming out are very spooky) however, most of this boils down to personal political fights like the one in TX b/w Sen Patrick and David Dewhurst or Glen Hegar's race for comptroller. these men are complete idolaters at this point, none are of real conviction and have only been playing Christian the last decade or so. don't know as much about OH and Kasich but very similar pissing matches are churning these shitstorms, i'm sure.
no need to understand religion to understand religious fundamentalists, "idolaters". makes sense.
babyfinland posted:SariBari posted:HenryKrinkle posted:this hardmarxbros forum views reproductive rights as a petty "first world problem" or "bourgeois liberal" issue that isn't worthy of defending w/ any zeal.
activists in texas and ohio (much derided "liberals," probably) are attempting to defend women from a reactionary onslaught.thank you henry for keepin' it 100. i'll be fair and say that in tx, if we could even get as many male liberals from our 5 major cities to show up as there are female liberals, independents, socialists, unaffliateds, and dem cogs showing from all over, it would be easier to control/counteract the process inside the capitols, as is we're stretched thin doing double duty.on actions and logistics for all actions
roseweird: you are painfully wrong about needing to understand evangelical Christianity or Catholicism to crack the cases happening in TX, OH, and N.C. the slice of primary election mongoloids that mobilize for the men and women of power in TX and OH are u.s. taliban types, yes (the quiverful families that have been coming out are very spooky) however, most of this boils down to personal political fights like the one in TX b/w Sen Patrick and David Dewhurst or Glen Hegar's race for comptroller. these men are complete idolaters at this point, none are of real conviction and have only been playing Christian the last decade or so. don't know as much about OH and Kasich but very similar pissing matches are churning these shitstorms, i'm sure.no need to understand religion to understand religious fundamentalists, "idolaters". makes sense.
yeah, instead of trying to focus on the political context, let's focus on a small slice of electorate that can swing things when GOP pissing matches get to a boiling point.stfu you boring snobby piece of shit. go back to inflating your ego by batting roseweird and others around about religion. you've never organized anyone or anything significant in your life.
babyfinland posted:ive organized two workplaces actually
prob some wackass staff union bullshit. but you know what you're right, on sunday i'll move that we trash current model and i'll tell people we should stand outside getting sunburned talking to the misogynists outside who view children as punishment. gotta understand them so we can agitate them ya know? really get them thinking. a great use of 26 days. ps fuck off forever bf and don't ever reply to my posts again, thanks so much sincerel
babyfinland posted:thats your right as a crazy bitch i guess
i'm really pleased you think so and goodbye.
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roseweird posted:okay, but we still have a thread full of people who want to discuss reproductive policy without thinking about "when does an individual life begin
This is awful. An individual starts with a birth certificate. Please get to farming out would be individuals to their adoptive parents after the hundreds of thousands of children in protective services as well as the thousands who dont have case files yet in the US are adopted into healthy homes.
Lessons posted:anyway people say dumbass shit here, sometimes seriously and sometimes jokingly, every day. its not necessary to dredge up dumb shit they said years ago because there's always fresh turds to complain about.
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roseweird posted:pro-abortion
I'd honestly hoped there wouldn't be a day I had to say the following: your arguments are needlessly tedious and paternal bc you don't have the blood and guts to understand this issue. "pro-abortion", whatever the fuck do you mean? i think you meant pro choice or just pro healthcare didn't you? you understand that since women have been terminating pregnancies since we became aware that it was possible to do so that it's just a part of our healthcare, right? most women (no matter how they act at church) and sympathetic men understand that it's choice about healthcare which could mean 1) a baby you want to raise for the rest of your days 2) it's poison or the surgery orrrrrrr 3) forced pregnancy for 40+ weeks and a forced birth. i hope this helps you visualize some more of the physical stuff at stake rather than just the elimination of a Possible Individual.
roseweird posted:a refusal to engage in a real examination of subjectivity. i think that a deep examination of human subjectivity and individuation supports the right to unlimited access to abortion,
no. more awfulness. it's a medical procedure that 1 out of 3 women will experience before age 40 for a reason. it's a really common thing in many communities even the religious ones. stop acting like it's possible to use The Individual argument to help antichoice folks see the way when they feel the way they do precisely because they obsess over the idea that a fetus is a Person in need of defense. why would any sane woman give a fuck if someone else just didn't feel comfortable about it or otherwise? i don't fucking care, roseweird. i shouldn't have to comfort them about my private fucking healthcare decisions. they don't bend my ear about their stomach stapling, vasectomies and hairplugs.
roseweird posted:"well whatever i don't believe in souls anyway."
yeah this isn't what many people who don't have time for these considering individual/religious underpinning arguments or the "arguments that should be happening about abortion" think and personally, i'd never reveal anything about super personal or private sphere's of one's life to the wily zzone, including sex or religious/spiritual beliefs.
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roseweird posted:i only think learning to use religious arguments might be of use in getting them to stop making horrible laws. that's all. roezword owt.
with meager resources spread out over a state that is 800miX800mi and almost no real oppositional organization to be speak of for past 3 decades, i'll leave outreach to you. feel free to peruse govt recordings of their recent testimonies to see the kind of theologians you'll be dialoguing with for the good of women's health.
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