jools posted:of course british food is terrible - real subsumption has existed in britain 50-100 years longer than most other countries. processed food has dominated the diet for much longer as a result. russia is probably the only country though where the process of real subsumption actually improved the cuisine
um, no. brit food is bad b/c its made by brits, who are terrible at everything and are the biggest shit stain on the great pair of underpants we call humanity, as i'm sure you're well aware.
discipline posted:it's so easy to own these people because they hide under a blanket if they even see you coming
Big talk for someone who literally worked for the CIA in a poverty tour of the occupied Palestinian territories
daddyholes posted:krugman blamed british food on WWII rationing
i dont think this is the whole story, it's worth comparing % rural populations in different european countries prior to ww2 as well. i'm pretty sure british food sucked shit before ww2. the other end of the scale is probably italy - italians employed in nazi forced labour were resented because their rations included a higher proportion of fresh vegetables than anyone else's as they wouldn't eat otherwise.
daddyholes posted:except for KFC, that is definitely Chinese food
something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
daddyholes posted:personally i like all kinds of food but the cultural integrationist approach of russian cuisine is probably objectively superior to the peasant regionalism of chinese cuisine which is so extreme that the latter term doesn't really describe anything at all
"but you don't understand, this shit is actually a careful blend of ten different kinds of shit!"
codywilson posted:something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
KFC gives maximum opportunity to throw bones on the ground, pick teeth with fingers, burp and yell loudly about the lack of quality
daddyholes posted:codywilson posted:something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
KFC gives maximum opportunity to throw bones on the ground, pick teeth with fingers, burp and yell loudly about the lack of quality
"why aren't they serving feet? motherfuckers"
codywilson posted:daddyholes posted:except for KFC, that is definitely Chinese food
something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
i don't know if you're trolling but KFC originally stood for Kong Fei Canton Chicken Company, it was only referred to as Kentucky Fried Chicken in american marketing. KFC is chinese.
daddyholes posted:codywilson posted:something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
KFC gives maximum opportunity to throw bones on the ground, pick teeth with fingers, burp and yell loudly about the lack of quality
as a cultural environment/phenomenon it has certainly been well assimilated. but how does post-eating behavior reflect the cultural authenticity of the food?
also you forgot hacking and spitting everywhere.
jools posted:daddyholes posted:codywilson posted:something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
KFC gives maximum opportunity to throw bones on the ground, pick teeth with fingers, burp and yell loudly about the lack of quality
"why aren't they serving feet? motherfuckers"
chikcen feet are totally chinese diet. i wouldn't be surprised if they served them cooked up at the chinese kfcs
codywilson posted:daddyholes posted:codywilson posted:something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
KFC gives maximum opportunity to throw bones on the ground, pick teeth with fingers, burp and yell loudly about the lack of quality
as a cultural environment/phenomenon it has certainly been well assimilated. but how does post-eating behavior reflect the cultural authenticity of the food?
also you forgot hacking and spitting everywhere.
there isn't any such thing as cultural authenticity
codywilson posted:jools posted:daddyholes posted:codywilson posted:something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
KFC gives maximum opportunity to throw bones on the ground, pick teeth with fingers, burp and yell loudly about the lack of quality
"why aren't they serving feet? motherfuckers"
chikcen feet are totally chinese diet. i wouldn't be surprised if they served them cooked up at the chinese kfcs
they didnt at the one i went to. it sucked
jools posted:codywilson posted:daddyholes posted:codywilson posted:something being located in china does not make it chinese food. There are certainly chinese variations and appropriations of kfc dishes/recipes, but it's all grobalized/mcdonaldized and i wouldn't consider it chinese cuisine.
KFC gives maximum opportunity to throw bones on the ground, pick teeth with fingers, burp and yell loudly about the lack of quality
as a cultural environment/phenomenon it has certainly been well assimilated. but how does post-eating behavior reflect the cultural authenticity of the food?
also you forgot hacking and spitting everywhere.there isn't any such thing as cultural authenticity
fair enough, poor word choice. i guess I should've said regional ownership or something?
jools posted:there isn't any such thing as cultural authenticity
Waiter brings you a piece of wonder bread with peanut butter on it. "Great Schezuan delicacy, very authentic."
jools posted:eating kfc in wuhan while yelling at each other and spitting is as much a sinification of kfc as it is an americanisation of china
yeah, it's an undefined spectrum between grobal/glocal influence, but the point is that western capitalism drove it/originated it, it that counts or anything.
jools posted:actually i read something a while back on the re-export of fake chinese cuisine to china or s/thing
You mean like native chinese inhabitants consuming some sesame chicken? most of the chinese people I know don't really like the americanized dishes that american chinese restaurants sell.
codywilson posted:jools posted:actually i read something a while back on the re-export of fake chinese cuisine to china or s/thing
You mean like native chinese inhabitants consuming some sesame chicken? most of the chinese people I know don't really like the americanized dishes that american chinese restaurants sell.
yeah or something along these lines. i think it was a few specific dishes.
codywilson posted:jools posted:eating kfc in wuhan while yelling at each other and spitting is as much a sinification of kfc as it is an americanisation of china
yeah, it's an undefined spectrum between grobal/glocal influence, but the point is that western capitalism drove it/originated it, it that counts or anything.
okay that makes more sense. though in a similar sense western capitalism drove the introduction of chinese food to america
codywilson posted:jools posted:actually i read something a while back on the re-export of fake chinese cuisine to china or s/thing
You mean like native chinese inhabitants consuming some sesame chicken? most of the chinese people I know don't really like the americanized dishes that american chinese restaurants sell.
which is weird cuz im mexican but fuckin(!) love taco bell