You know how it is, right, ladies? You know a guy for a while. You hang out with him. You do fun things with him—play video games, watch movies, go hiking, go to concerts. You invite him to your parties. You listen to his problems. You do all this because you think he wants to be your friend.
But then, then comes the fateful moment where you find out that all this time, he’s only seen you as a potential girlfriend. And then if you turn him down, he may never speak to you again. This has happened to me time after time: I hit it off with a guy, and, for all that I’ve been burned in the past, I start to think that this one might actually care about me as a person. And then he asks me on a date.
I tell him how much I enjoy his company, how much I value his friendship. I tell him that I really want to be his friend and to continue hanging out with him and talking about our favorite books or exploring new restaurants or making fun of avant-garde theatre productions. But he rejects me. He doesn’t answer my calls or e-mails; if we’d been making plans to do something before this fateful incident, these plans mysteriously fail to materialize. (This is why I never did get around to seeing the Hunger Games movie. Not to name any names, but thanks a lot, Tom.) Later, when I run into him at social events, our conversations are awkward and lukewarm. This is because the moment we met, he put me in the girlfriend-zone, and now he can’t see me as friend material.
I must say that I find this really unfair. I mean, I’m a nice girl. I have a lot to offer as a friend, like not being a douchebag and stuff. But males just don’t want to be friends with nice girls like me. They can’t help it, I guess; it’s just how they’re wired, biologically. Evolution conditioned our male hominid ancestors to seek nice girls as mates and form friendship bonds only with the other dudes that they hunted mammoths with. It’s true—I know this because I studied hominids in my fifth-grade science class.
So what’s the answer? Should I take up mammoth-hunting in an attempt to appeal to the friendship centers of men’s primal lizardbrains? Should I keep making guy “friends” and then prevent them from making a move on me by subtly undermining their self-confidence? Should I just give up on those manipulative, game-playing, two-faced bastards once and for all? I don’t know. I mean, I’d really like to have a true friendship with a guy someday, but it’s so hard to trust and respect them when they never say what they mean—and you never know when you might be relegated to the girlfriend-zone.
Ironicwarcriminal posted:What frustrates me about this is the response of the broad cultural left. They're all too willing to (rightfully) laugh at the awkwardness and myopia of entitled, discombobulated nerds, and yet are completely unwilling to examine how they've contributed to it through advocating divorce, shaming honor and chivalry and pumping out a template of victimhood so broad and messy that wealthy white men can use it's language to not only defend but gain more social privilege.
Friendzone actually reasserts masculine territorial discourse back from the illusion of gender equity and lack of status-seeking and male honor artificially created by feminist ideology.
Friendzoning, PUA and MRA are all illiberal ultraconservative projects utilizing liberal discourse merely as proxy.
It's YOU who are effete and liberal.
Cheers.
Skalm • a day ago
For men, a relationship is the natural progression of a close friendship with a member of the opposite sex. You like her a lot, and you know from being friends with her that she has a really great personality. Why wouldn’t you upgrade a friendship into a relationship?
where do people get these ideas!
Anyway once again we can generally point the finger at technology for this increasingly detached and deranged alienation. Japan's pretty technologically advanced right? I read yesterday that a quarter of all Japanese aged 30-34 are virgins. Welcome to the friendzone of the Real.
COINTELBRO posted:Ironicwarcriminal posted:
What frustrates me about this is the response of the broad cultural left. They're all too willing to (rightfully) laugh at the awkwardness and myopia of entitled, discombobulated nerds, and yet are completely unwilling to examine how they've contributed to it through advocating divorce, shaming honor and chivalry and pumping out a template of victimhood so broad and messy that wealthy white men can use it's language to not only defend but gain more social privilege.
Friendzone actually reasserts masculine territorial discourse back from the illusion of gender equity and lack of status-seeking and male honor artificially created by feminist ideology.
Friendzoning, PUA and MRA are all illiberal ultraconservative projects utilizing liberal discourse merely as proxy.
It's YOU who are effete and liberal.
Cheers.
yeah i'm sure these beta's grandfathers would be proud of their heirs having the masculine courage to bitterly whinge about women, get fat and waste their days with electronic parlour games.
'Men's Rights campaigners' who are concerned with custody issues and such I can have some sympathy for, but most young MRAs are just surplus humans trying to come to terms with their worthlessness to society.
wasted posted:it's called terminator 2.
robot -> woman -> child -> black man
wasted posted:it's called terminator 2.
saw this again recently and god it's fantastic...each scene feeds into the next in such an elegant and fluid way, the CGI is complemented by awesome practical special effects, and the moments of comic relief (chill out, dickwad) are amusing without detracting from the overall verisimilitude of the story.
Ironicwarcriminal posted:saw this again recently and god it's fantastic...each scene feeds into the next in such an elegant and fluid way, the CGI is complemented by awesome practical special effects, and the moments of comic relief (chill out, dickwad) are amusing without detracting from the overall verisimilitude of the story.
Ironicwarcriminal posted:Skalm • a day ago
For men, a relationship is the natural progression of a close friendship with a member of the opposite sex. You like her a lot, and you know from being friends with her that she has a really great personality. Why wouldn’t you upgrade a friendship into a relationship?where do people get these ideas!
Anyway once again we can generally point the finger at technology for this increasingly detached and deranged alienation. Japan's pretty technologically advanced right? I read yesterday that a quarter of all Japanese aged 30-34 are virgins. Welcome to the friendzone of the Real.
lol japan owns
daddyholes posted:every alpha raise paw
mongosteen posted:what is the proper way to think about friendzoning.
gas (keep the thread through)
Agnus_Dei posted:
is this why nerds love japan stuff so much, because it's made by people similar to them but yet have a bit more standing in their society?
daddyholes posted:it makes me physically sick to think of people who are 30 and virgins
dont be so hard on yourself
daddyholes posted:it makes me physically sick to think of people who are 30 and virgins
i just laugh at getfiscal's posts
but i wondered how feminism stacked up against more specific types of porno, for example weird porno. http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=feminism,%20weird%20porno while feminism does beat out 'weird porno' in popularity, i found its extremely cyclic nature interesting until i noticed the timeframes. searches for feminism spike in the fall of each year, collapse in the winter, then rise in the spring, and bottom out in the summer, over and over, year after year. why? college students are googling it for assignments but don't actually care
tpaine posted:i got fiendzoned! and now i'm surrounded by horrible, grotesque creatures!
actually this is called getting "abyssed." you probably were attacked by a powerful wizard or unwielded a distortion weapon. dont panic! just keep looking for an exit, i know you can make it
Ironicwarcriminal posted:'Men's Rights campaigners' who are concerned with custody issues and such I can have some sympathy for, but most young MRAs are just surplus humans trying to come to terms with their worthlessness to society.
same but about everyone posting here
mongosteen posted:obviously in the battle feminism v. porno, feminism is invisible. http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=feminism,%20porno
but i wondered how feminism stacked up against more specific types of porno, for example weird porno. http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=feminism,%20weird%20porno while feminism does beat out 'weird porno' in popularity, i found its extremely cyclic nature interesting until i noticed the timeframes. searches for feminism spike in the fall of each year, collapse in the winter, then rise in the spring, and bottom out in the summer, over and over, year after year. why? college students are googling it for assignments but don't actually care
Zimbabwe, the most feminist country? Also the Turks are really into internet porn.
mongosteen posted:what is the proper way to think about friendzoning. should we have sympathy for the poor man who is heartbroken and lonely, or should we regard him as a villain for his lies to keep the subject of his affections close
some of my friends use the word friend zone unironically, it irritates me mainly because i actually like my friends even though friendship is apparently some kind of blood curse
mostly its due to loneliness and being steeped in media where a man aint nothin if he aint fuckin but these are intelligent, thoughtful guys usually, why the fuck cant they police their own thoughts