Wulgus posted:

deadken posted:

these lurkers are earnest as hell & totally suck. can we get a ban on All the lurkers



dont ban me please

hi

deadken posted:

allgirlsummergunclub posted:

libelous_slander posted:

i say post more because it honestly needs to be brought to light. too many decision makers operate in the dark and sure, they don't read the rhizzone but the dissemination is important, and the truth will eventually reach the surface

honestly a lot of the people working for and against these type of cases don't show up in google searches other than the occasional docket record. the whole thing is pretty clandestine wrt working with american refugee organisations, immigration and recruitment efforts in (especially midwestern) urban areas. a lot of it is common knowledge in the near-dead labor law circles but most plants aren't even on a map much less in the news. i'm really wary about making the writeup i'd like to on a public forum bc i really want to post pics of dudes in raincoats covered in blood who work for less than min wage and the names of people who hire illegals for sexual favors in nebraska but i just need to put everything together.

lmao if you have this stuff dont waste it on the monkey cheese stalin fail aids forum, write it up and send it off to every magazine and newspaper you can think of, they'll be capable of protecting your confidentiality and nothing on here ever 'reaches the surface'

lol i mean who would do anything about it? we've been working against these companies for 10+ years and most of the footage gets settled on for like ~$1k per worker. the places that do go to trial hire this guy: (edit: gonna redact this link) and the best we can do is sit down, eat it and bring the best evidence we can. there is no solid lobby or whistleblowing organization that would protect any real media effort, and we have to get court injunctions and sign NDA's to even get through the guard house at any plant. i want to post the shit on the fail aids forum bc i think people here are really smart and write a lot of good words but have never walked through doors labelled THIS WAY TO KILL FLOOR with the smell of blood and shit in their noses. i dont know whether i can make the Big Post without getting sued but i would like to answer questions about this stuff at the the very least.

Edited by allgirlsummergunclub (March 15, 2013 21:34:01)

allgirlsummergunclub posted:

deadken posted:

allgirlsummergunclub posted:

libelous_slander posted:

i say post more because it honestly needs to be brought to light. too many decision makers operate in the dark and sure, they don't read the rhizzone but the dissemination is important, and the truth will eventually reach the surface

honestly a lot of the people working for and against these type of cases don't show up in google searches other than the occasional docket record. the whole thing is pretty clandestine wrt working with american refugee organisations, immigration and recruitment efforts in (especially midwestern) urban areas. a lot of it is common knowledge in the near-dead labor law circles but most plants aren't even on a map much less in the news. i'm really wary about making the writeup i'd like to on a public forum bc i really want to post pics of dudes in raincoats covered in blood who work for less than min wage and the names of people who hire illegals for sexual favors in nebraska but i just need to put everything together.

lmao if you have this stuff dont waste it on the monkey cheese stalin fail aids forum, write it up and send it off to every magazine and newspaper you can think of, they'll be capable of protecting your confidentiality and nothing on here ever 'reaches the surface'

lol i mean who would do anything about it? we've been working against these companies for 10+ years and most of the footage gets settled on for like ~$1k per worker. the places that do go to trial hire this guy: http://www.hunton.com/professionals/uniEntity.aspx?xpST=ProfessionalDetail&professional=5416 and the best we can do is sit down, eat it and bring the best evidence we can. there is no solid lobby or whistleblowing organization that would protect any real media effort, and we have to get court injunctions and sign NDA's to even get through the guard house at any plant. i want to post the shit on the fail aids forum bc i think people here are really smart and write a lot of good words but have never walked through doors labelled THIS WAY TO KILL FLOOR with the smell of blood and shit in their noses. i dont know whether i can make the Big Post without getting sued but i would like to answer questions about this stuff at the the very least.

it sounds like the kind of thing NSFW Corp would pay you for although i have no idea if theyre as ethical wrt journalistic protection as they say they are

cleanhands posted:

im not a us lawyer but at a guess they would sue you into bankruptcy and have criminal charges brought that youd have to put your life on hold to defend against, pour encourager les autres and all that

this is why im usually too drunk to write a good post

ArisVelouchiotis posted:

I was thinking a little about music in political struggle. You can almost deduce the quality of the cause from the quality of the music. Compare civil war-era red music and white music, and compare irish republican music and loyalist music. Look, I'm not saying this is scientific. It's just some food for thought for the lurker checkpoint #46354.

Republican prisoners singing an old irish folk ballad

Ireland is the only country I've been to outside of the US and I remember getting really drunk in a small town pub wiyh live music and they were singing songs about killing the British. Good Country.

animedad posted:

Ireland is the only country I've been to outside of the US and I remember getting really drunk in a small town pub wiyh live music and they were singing songs about killing the British. Good Country.

It's on my bucket list.

noavbazzer posted:

sailorsars come back and post that stuff

I have to formulate it but for now i'll just assume you are already familiar with the debate somewhat. Basically, derrida was writing about metaphilosophy as well as critiquing austin's argument (which i think derrida is actually more than sympathetic to). Searle simply sees it as a brazen attack on austin and thus himself since all of his work originates in austin's speech act project. Ultimately, searle fails to really grasp derrida's critique because he never really gave it a chance in the first place, and in doing so reveals certain problems with the analytic tradition (which here includes the ordinary language phils). At the same time, I think it validates much of what the ordinary language philosophers and the social constructivists were arguing as well. The argument is really interesting because it demonstrates the theory being argued, as much as it actually argues it. Unfortunately I don't have limited inc with me, so I can't write up a full post yet. I'm still struggling to articulate the argument fully, because in my opinion, it's one of the most complex debates in philosophy due to the parallels between the theory, the debate itself, and the politics surrounding it. Also, I'm not sure how much that debate matters anymore because it seems to me that the actual philosophy of the debate was largely ignored, despite how heavily it was publicized.