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i also hate calling people who use prostitutes Johns because my name is Bill, lol
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tpaine posted:



i love clinton so much i cant help it

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tpaine posted:



i love clinton so much i cant help it

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tpaine posted:

stop hammering those buttons all crazy amanleno, are you on meth or something


#328
Check out this k3wl Doug henwood interview with Melissa gira grant http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/84248

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gyrofry posted:

Check out this k3wl Doug henwood interview with Melissa gira grant http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/84248


Melissa is correct, of course, to emphasize that porn is not alone in the entertainment industry in regard to its sexism, debasement, and exploitation of women. But the influence of porn might be unique. As mentioned, the amateur porn on YouTube provides some evidence of this. (Btw, the number of men with military haircuts in the amateur videos seems to be quite high. But this is a matter which requires far more analysis than I can provide here.)

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http://www.christianpost.com/news/to-fight-sex-trafficking-fight-the-ideology-that-creates-it-expert-says-90694/

She used some graphic language to grab the audience's attention and urged them not to refer to prostitution as "sex work."

"Sex is not work," she said. "God did not create any woman for the purpose, excuse me, that she be a cum receptacle. God did not create the female to be a human being that are basically masturbating into. ... These are human beings, made with human dignity, and sex was never intended to be a job, so let's not use the language of 'sex work.'"

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God did not create any woman
#333
ya apart from when she says one of the major reasons sex trafficking has exploded is because of moral degeneracy and the degenerate media
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#335
What's the difference between having sex with a woman and masturbating into her?
#336

MadMedico posted:

What's the difference between having sex with a woman and masturbating into her?

Sorry, you'll have to call for rates.

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littlegreenpills posted:

ya apart from when she says one of the major reasons sex trafficking has exploded is because of moral degeneracy and the degenerate media



how can you think this is not a valid criticism? the fact that the race-to-the-bottom sensationalism and sleaze in media would encourage people to act in more unethical ways seems fucking obvious to me

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mongosteen posted:

God did not create any woman

it was satan am i rite

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/26/living/students-sugar-daddy-relationships/index.html

While some may compare the practice to prostitution or question the morality of trading money and gifts for affection, the people who use these sites contend that they're merely a conduit for both parties getting what they want.

Men who engage in such relationships, many of whom are older and married, enjoy taking care of young women and assuming a mentor role in their lives, said Steven Pasternack, who launched Sugardaddie.com in 2002.

"If you look at the language of various state statutes, the terms of many of the relationships fall under the definition of prostitution," said New Jersey attorney Alex Miller, who has studied "sugar dating."

Authorities shy away from prosecuting sugar websites and their users because the relationships can mirror a typical romance, Miller said. Plus, users are savvy enough not to broadcast online whether they're trading sex for cash.

Wade, 42, (who met his wife, 27, on the site) said most of the men on the site begin communication with potential sugar babies by asking them why they're looking for a sugar daddy.

He's found that women who say they need money to pay for school get asked out more often than those who admit they want cash for breast implants, for instance.
While most of the sugar daddies Cervantes has met through the website prefer to arrange a per-date per diem, one married man wrote her a check for $1,600 to go toward her tuition and rent after their monthlong courtship.

She said she prefers dating married men because they tend to be more paternal and offer a steadier source of income than single men.

Without the extra income, Cervantes said she'd be back at the homeless shelter she lived in for three months in 2009. "In my heart of hearts I don't really like the situation," Cervantes said. "Right now it's a survival mechanism."

Sugardaddie.com's Pasternack said the relationship between a sugar baby and sugar daddy is all about perspective.

"I helped my wife get through school, I pay for the bills, take her on trips, buy her nice gifts," he said. "I guess you could say a lot of married guys are sugar daddies without them realizing it. I think you can say basically any guy who wants to impress a woman is a sugar daddy."
#342
there's more income disparity between nations than ever before, and it's easier than ever to import cheap labour for nasty jobs. i mean agribusiness doesn't hire undocumenteds for pennies an hour because of a moral decline, or because households are eating way more tomatoes than they used to. you could make a case that FEWER men habitually visit pay for sex than, say, 150 years ago. also there's a ton of sex trafficking in Iran ffs, they keep as tight a lid on filth as any modern state can be expected to surely. finally, tho it's a little irrelevant, pinning "moral decline" up there on yr big list of action items is probably going to detract from real immediate effective things you can do. why educate johns when you can shoot them?
#343
I prefer sex worker to prostitute bc the work is demeaning enough w/o giving it a demeaning name (whether or not it should be work, it is work (especially with me))
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discipline posted:

ilmdge posted:

Sugardaddie.com's Pasternack said the relationship between a sugar baby and sugar daddy is all about perspective.

in one of those books I'm writing this is how a cell is funded

good call, sex sells

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discipline posted:

cleanhands posted:

I prefer sex worker to prostitute bc the work is demeaning enough w/o giving it a demeaning name (whether or not it should be work, it is work (especially with me))

sex worker unions are run by pimps and madams, also known as sex workers

sex bosses (would be a good band name)

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discipline posted:

cleanhands posted:

I prefer sex worker to prostitute bc the work is demeaning enough w/o giving it a demeaning name (whether or not it should be work, it is work (especially with me))



sex worker unions are run by pimps and madams, also known as sex workers



Any articles on this?

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gyrofry posted:

good call, sex sells

sometimes i wish i could upvote an upvote

#351
lol
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#353
the goatstein brothers
#354
guys check out my new tumblr, sugardaddies_ebooks
#355
one of those books i'm writing
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#357
‘bring me the coolies who picked, distributed and served this tea at once!’
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cleanhands posted:

I prefer sex worker to prostitute bc the work is demeaning enough w/o giving it a demeaning name (whether or not it should be work, it is work (especially with me))



sorry but sex does not produce surplus value and therefore is unproductive labour. calling prostitutes 'workers' is incorrect, a more valid term would be sexual aristocracy. read marx

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babyhueypnewton posted:

sorry but sex does not produce surplus value and therefore is unproductive labour. calling prostitutes 'workers' is incorrect, a more valid term would be sexual aristocracy. read marx

wow you seem to know a lot about prostitutes

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babyhueypnewton posted:

cleanhands posted:
I prefer sex worker to prostitute bc the work is demeaning enough w/o giving it a demeaning name (whether or not it should be work, it is work (especially with me))


sorry but sex does not produce surplus value and therefore is unproductive labour. calling prostitutes 'workers' is incorrect, a more valid term would be sexual aristocracy. read marx



urgh