#121

Lessons posted:

discipline posted:

no. it doesn't matter why. pretty sure the point of my mentioning that was that it's not acceptable behavior under any circumstances or for any reason.

well people read it as suggesting that the ~*Trans Mafia*~ will stalk and harass you if you ever cross their politically correct stasi. which isn't an entirely absurd reading considering the context you posted it in



last i checked i'm people and i didn't

#122

drwhat posted:

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

anyway, trans people are hilarious

can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?

oh get over yourself. i didn't say cis people are somehow magically not hilarious.


i know you didn't mean it like this but this reads as "i'm not a bigot, i hate everyone equally "

#123

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

anyway, trans people are hilarious

can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?

oh get over yourself. i didn't say cis people are somehow magically not hilarious.

i know you didn't mean it like this but this reads as "i'm not a bigot, i hate everyone equally "



that is, in fact, how i meant it

#124
okay sorry for giving you too much credit
#125
why is everyone so mean to me... i only want to be loved... i've tried to be a just and kind mod...
#126

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

anyway, trans people are hilarious

can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?



man, have you seen your own post history?
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/search/?action=show_user&user_id=48&page=1

it's 50+ pages of one-line insults and dismissals, rehashing grudges from long dead forums. i liked you back in lf, but it seems like everything you post now is bitter and spiteful. i mean, certainly some of the people you target deserve it, but you can understand why it's annoying that it's the only thing you fucking post. not that you have to participate in this forum, but in that case don't participate at all instead of dropping a 1000+ posts of your disapproval

#127
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#128

discipline posted:

what do you want to post about next time



same thing we post about every night, pinky - how to take over the world!

#129
After the revolution came Malinovsky tried to join the Petrograd soviet but was recognized and shot by firing squad. I believe your time has come my friend...

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#130
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#131
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#132

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:
Lessons posted:
drwhat posted:
anyway, trans people are hilarious
can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?
man, have you seen your own post history?
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/search/?action=show_user&user_id=48&page=1

it's 50+ pages of one-line insults and dismissals, rehashing grudges from long dead forums. i liked you back in lf, but it seems like everything you post now is bitter and spiteful. i mean, certainly some of the people you target deserve it, but you can understand why it's annoying that it's the only thing you fucking post. not that you have to participate in this forum, but in that case don't participate at all instead of dropping a 1000+ posts of your disapproval

i spent more time trying to have actual discussion here than most people.



Lol what?

I have nothing against you but this isn’t true

I haven’t seen you post for ages. Sure it’s a weird irreverent joke forum that gets weirdly hateful sometimes but there are plenty of opportunities for “actual discussion”, it just seems like you want an “actual discussion” sterilized from any sort of humour or irony in which case can I suggest Debate and Discussion?

#133

discipline posted:

Lessons posted:
i spent more time trying to have actual discussion here than most people. problem is that this forum turned out to be a haven for idiots and total assholes, and even some of the people who actually wanted to discuss things (like baby finland) ended up being assholes too. i wouldn't even be here if someone hadn't directed me to khamsek jumping in to a thread about some journalist screaming bigoted remarks with "bet she's going to get stalked and harassed by the trans mafia!!" and thankfully you probably won't have to see me again any time soon.


thanks for stopping by, glad someone is always in your ear about something I'm posting on the internet!



Lmao I didn’t even pick that up.

Lessons: There are plenty of things Khamsek and I disagree about and I often post combative objections (of varying degrees of seriousness) to something or other she’s said.

I don’t go around to other people e-whispering conspiratorially in their ears “omg did you hear about what discipline said on the Rhizzone?” and then come here and complain you can’t have an actual discussion.

Ludicrous

#134
funny to see you still posturing about trans issues when i get back from the gym
#135

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

anyway, trans people are hilarious

can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?

man, have you seen your own post history?
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/search/?action=show_user&user_id=48&page=1

it's 50+ pages of one-line insults and dismissals, rehashing grudges from long dead forums. i liked you back in lf, but it seems like everything you post now is bitter and spiteful. i mean, certainly some of the people you target deserve it, but you can understand why it's annoying that it's the only thing you fucking post. not that you have to participate in this forum, but in that case don't participate at all instead of dropping a 1000+ posts of your disapproval

i spent more time trying to have actual discussion here than most people. problem is that this forum turned out to be a haven for idiots and total assholes, and even some of the people who actually wanted to discuss things (like baby finland) ended up being assholes too. i wouldn't even be here if someone hadn't directed me to khamsek jumping in to a thread about some journalist screaming bigoted remarks with "bet she's going to get stalked and harassed by the trans mafia!!" and thankfully you probably won't have to see me again any time soon.



I guess all 1000+ posts were just because people keep on linking you to shit? It's not like being motivated by internet gossiping is better.

Listen, I don't put much stock into this forum either, but there is the occasional discussion that makes it worth it, and there are a couple people I like to keep in touch with. Thus, I try to not spew shit all over the place. I'm sorry to see you go instead of helping better the place, but if you're going to go, leave for fucking ever. There's no reason to wallow in shit if you see it that way.

#136

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Goethestein posted:

GoldenLionTamarin posted:
the percentage of radfem writers who are the victim of crimes as a result of insulting transgender people is incredibly small. its a lot smaller than, for example, the percentage of transgender people who kill themselves or are murdered because of the kind of attitude in this article


how many transpeople are hatemurdered in the first world annually

it's gotta be in the single digits

I don’t know but I’m willing to believe their claims of marginalization, violence and oppression, given that even people on the supposed left seem to relish in mocking not just their social movement, but the actual being of who they are.



same but for otherkin, headmates, tulpa people, the mens rights movement

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#137
whoa whoa whoa whoa stop...

stop right there....

am i an idiot or a total asshole

(comedy option: it's both)
#138

Lessons posted:

shut up. you and goatstein are the reason no one posts on this forum



plenty of people post here. none of the unironic social justice, get-mad-at-you-irl when you make fun of communism types, which is optimal imo

#139
identity politics is like crabs in a bucket
#140
this thread did really degenerate into a stupid meaningless discussion tho. i don't know if that's just a reflection of the leftist movement as a whole or just this forum specifically but whenever there is an obvious clear cut issue of reactionary sentiment that gets expressed within the hegemony that needs to be met with vocal opposition, there's always pointless internal posturing and bickering, with people dredging up irrelevant and stupid digressions that completely derail what should be an easy issue for the left to lend ideological support to
#141

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

anyway, trans people are hilarious

can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?

man, have you seen your own post history?
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/search/?action=show_user&user_id=48&page=1

it's 50+ pages of one-line insults and dismissals, rehashing grudges from long dead forums. i liked you back in lf, but it seems like everything you post now is bitter and spiteful. i mean, certainly some of the people you target deserve it, but you can understand why it's annoying that it's the only thing you fucking post. not that you have to participate in this forum, but in that case don't participate at all instead of dropping a 1000+ posts of your disapproval

i spent more time trying to have actual discussion here than most people. problem is that this forum turned out to be a haven for idiots and total assholes, and even some of the people who actually wanted to discuss things (like baby finland) ended up being assholes too. i wouldn't even be here if someone hadn't directed me to khamsek jumping in to a thread about some journalist screaming bigoted remarks with "bet she's going to get stalked and harassed by the trans mafia!!" and thankfully you probably won't have to see me again any time soon.

I guess all 1000+ posts were just because people keep on linking you to shit? It's not like being motivated by internet gossiping is better.

Listen, I don't put much stock into this forum either, but there is the occasional discussion that makes it worth it, and there are a couple people I like to keep in touch with. Thus, I try to not spew shit all over the place. I'm sorry to see you go instead of helping better the place, but if you're going to go, leave for fucking ever. There's no reason to wallow in shit if you see it that way.


i came here to ask a question that got a non-answer as a response and, well, that's basically it. later

#142

Goethestein posted:

Lessons posted:

shut up. you and goatstein are the reason no one posts on this forum

plenty of people post here. none of the unironic social justice, get-mad-at-you-irl when you make fun of communism types, which is optimal imo



i will fight anyone who denigrates stalin or bolshevism.

#143

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

anyway, trans people are hilarious

can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?

man, have you seen your own post history?
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/search/?action=show_user&user_id=48&page=1

it's 50+ pages of one-line insults and dismissals, rehashing grudges from long dead forums. i liked you back in lf, but it seems like everything you post now is bitter and spiteful. i mean, certainly some of the people you target deserve it, but you can understand why it's annoying that it's the only thing you fucking post. not that you have to participate in this forum, but in that case don't participate at all instead of dropping a 1000+ posts of your disapproval

i spent more time trying to have actual discussion here than most people. problem is that this forum turned out to be a haven for idiots and total assholes, and even some of the people who actually wanted to discuss things (like baby finland) ended up being assholes too. i wouldn't even be here if someone hadn't directed me to khamsek jumping in to a thread about some journalist screaming bigoted remarks with "bet she's going to get stalked and harassed by the trans mafia!!" and thankfully you probably won't have to see me again any time soon.

I guess all 1000+ posts were just because people keep on linking you to shit? It's not like being motivated by internet gossiping is better.

Listen, I don't put much stock into this forum either, but there is the occasional discussion that makes it worth it, and there are a couple people I like to keep in touch with. Thus, I try to not spew shit all over the place. I'm sorry to see you go instead of helping better the place, but if you're going to go, leave for fucking ever. There's no reason to wallow in shit if you see it that way.

i came here to ask a question that got a non-answer as a response and, well, that's basically it. later



peace bro. see you at kawai-con

#144

Lessons posted:

'fear of a black knob', a confirmed creep who was later revealed to have sexually harassed multiple trans women?

post deets yo

#145
even khamsek has developed a lil bit of a sense of humor. miracles~
#146

AmericanNazbro posted:

this thread did really degenerate into a stupid meaningless discussion tho. i don't know if that's just a reflection of the leftist movement as a whole or just this forum specifically but whenever there is an obvious clear cut issue of reactionary sentiment that gets expressed within the hegemony that needs to be met with vocal opposition, there's always pointless internal posturing and bickering, with people dredging up irrelevant and stupid digressions that completely derail what should be an easy issue for the left to lend ideological support to



because ironically feeling for internal fissures within a clear-cut issue to expand into interesting trollscussions materially hurts the cause of radical egalitarianism and everyone univocally getting mad about it on the rhizzone materially advances it rite

#147
i dont "get" this thread
#148

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

anyway, trans people are hilarious

can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?

man, have you seen your own post history?
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/search/?action=show_user&user_id=48&page=1

it's 50+ pages of one-line insults and dismissals, rehashing grudges from long dead forums. i liked you back in lf, but it seems like everything you post now is bitter and spiteful. i mean, certainly some of the people you target deserve it, but you can understand why it's annoying that it's the only thing you fucking post. not that you have to participate in this forum, but in that case don't participate at all instead of dropping a 1000+ posts of your disapproval

i spent more time trying to have actual discussion here than most people. problem is that this forum turned out to be a haven for idiots and total assholes, and even some of the people who actually wanted to discuss things (like baby finland) ended up being assholes too. i wouldn't even be here if someone hadn't directed me to khamsek jumping in to a thread about some journalist screaming bigoted remarks with "bet she's going to get stalked and harassed by the trans mafia!!" and thankfully you probably won't have to see me again any time soon.

I guess all 1000+ posts were just because people keep on linking you to shit? It's not like being motivated by internet gossiping is better.

Listen, I don't put much stock into this forum either, but there is the occasional discussion that makes it worth it, and there are a couple people I like to keep in touch with. Thus, I try to not spew shit all over the place. I'm sorry to see you go instead of helping better the place, but if you're going to go, leave for fucking ever. There's no reason to wallow in shit if you see it that way.

i came here to ask a question that got a non-answer as a response and, well, that's basically it. later



ah, yes, you just came to ask an innocent question, not so you could bait a response. what did you want the answer to be? why is a woman under obligation to describe her experiences with harassment to some stranger that pops up once a month to insult her?

#149

AmericanNazbro posted:

this thread did really degenerate into a stupid meaningless discussion tho. i don't know if that's just a reflection of the leftist movement as a whole or just this forum specifically but whenever there is an obvious clear cut issue of reactionary sentiment that gets expressed within the hegemony that needs to be met with vocal opposition, there's always pointless internal posturing and bickering, with people dredging up irrelevant and stupid digressions that completely derail what should be an easy issue for the left to lend ideological support to



Are you talking about the trans campaigners or Burchill? Wasn't your first comment "she's right"

#150
lessons don't just come around here to whine whenever discipline gets snarky about people she fantasizes are camped out in bathrooms waiting to pounce. if you can't handle her at her worst then you don't deserve her at her best.
#151
Rhizzone Strong.
#152
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#153

deadken posted:

AmericanNazbro posted:

this thread did really degenerate into a stupid meaningless discussion tho. i don't know if that's just a reflection of the leftist movement as a whole or just this forum specifically but whenever there is an obvious clear cut issue of reactionary sentiment that gets expressed within the hegemony that needs to be met with vocal opposition, there's always pointless internal posturing and bickering, with people dredging up irrelevant and stupid digressions that completely derail what should be an easy issue for the left to lend ideological support to

because ironically feeling for internal fissures within a clear-cut issue to expand into interesting trollscussions materially hurts the cause of radical egalitarianism and everyone univocally getting mad about it on the rhizzone materially advances it rite



i was speaking in regards to leftist movements within the west and whether the rhizzone was a simulacrum that manifested organically in that image or not

i dont give a shit about the ironic detachment from the Real this forum uses in an attempt to create meaning and Realevence

#154

discipline posted:

I don't think she'll ever work again



er yes she will, shes had a column in a major newspaper for at least 20 years, she ranted about how ariel sharon is one of the greatest traitors to the jews in history after the gaza withdrawal without blinking

and most of all she gets those clicks!!!

#155

NounsareVerbs posted:

identity politics is like crabs in a bucket



#156
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#157

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

elemennop posted:

Lessons posted:

drwhat posted:

anyway, trans people are hilarious

can you just try not being an asshole. like, just try it?

man, have you seen your own post history?
http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/search/?action=show_user&user_id=48&page=1

it's 50+ pages of one-line insults and dismissals, rehashing grudges from long dead forums. i liked you back in lf, but it seems like everything you post now is bitter and spiteful. i mean, certainly some of the people you target deserve it, but you can understand why it's annoying that it's the only thing you fucking post. not that you have to participate in this forum, but in that case don't participate at all instead of dropping a 1000+ posts of your disapproval

i spent more time trying to have actual discussion here than most people. problem is that this forum turned out to be a haven for idiots and total assholes, and even some of the people who actually wanted to discuss things (like baby finland) ended up being assholes too. i wouldn't even be here if someone hadn't directed me to khamsek jumping in to a thread about some journalist screaming bigoted remarks with "bet she's going to get stalked and harassed by the trans mafia!!" and thankfully you probably won't have to see me again any time soon.

I guess all 1000+ posts were just because people keep on linking you to shit? It's not like being motivated by internet gossiping is better.

Listen, I don't put much stock into this forum either, but there is the occasional discussion that makes it worth it, and there are a couple people I like to keep in touch with. Thus, I try to not spew shit all over the place. I'm sorry to see you go instead of helping better the place, but if you're going to go, leave for fucking ever. There's no reason to wallow in shit if you see it that way.

i came here to ask a question that got a non-answer as a response and, well, that's basically it. later



No not later. Never. M e and the TERF boys will be here next time. You Fck

#158

drwhat posted:

Lessons posted:

discipline posted:

no. it doesn't matter why. pretty sure the point of my mentioning that was that it's not acceptable behavior under any circumstances or for any reason.

well people read it as suggesting that the ~*Trans Mafia*~ will stalk and harass you if you ever cross their politically correct stasi. which isn't an entirely absurd reading considering the context you posted it in

last i checked i'm people and i didn't



Last i checked i'm people too. Nuff said.

#159
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#160

GoldenLionTamarin posted:

Goethestein posted:

GoldenLionTamarin posted:

the percentage of radfem writers who are the victim of crimes as a result of insulting transgender people is incredibly small. its a lot smaller than, for example, the percentage of transgender people who kill themselves or are murdered because of the kind of attitude in this article

how many transpeople are hatemurdered in the first world annually

it's gotta be in the single digits

double digits iirc which is pretty significant because it;s like a tenth of a percent of the population or something like that. and that doesnt count non lethal assaults or suicides due to harassment. so its a lot

edit: its double digits in america but its triple digits worldwide. idk about the first world specifically



according to this, 13 transgender americans were killed in 2012. http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2012/11/20/13-transgender-americans-murdered-2012 that is a little less than 1/3 the number of people killed by bees. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/AllergiesNews/story?id=8148229&page=1