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yeah i'm pretty sure israel's not the linchpin in the broader muslim world's economy that is nefariously arranged to blunt all progress in like morocco and tajikistan or whatever. and if three hundred million arabs can't get their shit together against a tiny band of adam sandlers then maybe they need to look in the fail mirror.
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getfiscal posted:


antisemitism has gone viral

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hmmm, the insidious israel, that nefarious, ominous Other, from which islamofascism derives its voice. islamofascism is a voice of unrelenting destruction, expressed through the most radiant, holy medium, the blessed bullets of an AK47. these bullets tear through the soft, fleshy bodies of american soldiers the world around. therefore, i make the case that by supporting israel, one is tacitly consenting to the spread of islamofascism and by extension the brutal murder of thousands of brave american soldiers. zionism, therefore, in both forms presented here, is inherently anti-american and therefore truly immoral and ethically impermissible.
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discipline posted:

in egypt, for instance, over 70 million people live under a dictatorial and violent regime because this is the regime that has promised to hold the peace with israel.

correct.

discipline posted:

in places like lebanon, they understand that their refugee situation and the fiery wars waged from the sky are because of the zionist project.

correct.

discipline posted:

as a result of this regional instability that comes from zionist desire for expansion and assertion over the other, hundreds of millions have been set back decades on development goals. crank dictators skim billions from the people and accept western kickbacks because of the zionist project.

incorrect.

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america doesn't need israel in order to desire and assert control over middle eastern resources and labor.
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discipline posted:

don't pretend that usa distributing money regionally in favor of israel for the last 30 years is a crank conspiracy theory

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wow another khamsek 'israel sucks' thread, dont you like listen to music or read the society pages or anything lady??
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AIPAC literally lobbies to block arms exports to the Saudis/GCC to preserve Israel's QME and this has pissed off some major figures in the US foreign policy establishment.

it's fairly clear that Israel on occasion can aid US interests but in this post-Cold War era--when liberal democrats, rogue dictators, Islamists and even nationalists can be co-opted by corporate-friendly globalism--Zionist expansionism and antagonism is a huge liability for the US.
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zionism is a theology and its praxis is eschatological,

it is important to keep the kyriarchial perspective when viewing the israeli jewry's role in the zionist enterprise, the zionist leadership is incredibly opportunistic and its methodology has always been that of appropriation, co-option and historical revisionism.

you have to ask yourself, do you wish to see the situation diffused or is it more important to do justice and restore balance to the force?
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as an american i strongly support the state of israel otherwise we would be the worst country on earth
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Transient_Grace posted:

zionism is a theology and its praxis is scatological,

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This is an honest point discipline, but i really don't understand how a nation of 6 million people can undermine a region of hundreds of millions.

I mean i guess something like the Netherlands used to be able to run something more bigger like Indonesia, but that was a colonial extraction economy whereas it seems like Israel has very few economic ties with their neighbours.

I guess i understand the political destabilization that results from the US focus on Israel but still, me thinks the Arab States doth protest too much
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crank dictators skim billions from the people and accept western kickbacks because of the zionist project



this seems real sloppy

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

This is an honest point discipline, but i really don't understand how a nation of 6 million people can undermine a region of hundreds of millions.



global capitalism is the tyranny of the minority

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God's 1%?
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Superabound posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

This is an honest point discipline, but i really don't understand how a nation of 6 million people can undermine a region of hundreds of millions.

global capitalism is the tyranny of the minority


global capitalism is rather expressly post-national and has no attachment to zionism beyond the current marriage of convenience

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Groulxsmith posted:

global capitalism is rather expressly post-national and has no attachment to zionism beyond the current marriage of convenience



well then i guess its a good thing that in marriages of convenience people arent literally in bed with each other and no one ever gets fucked

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reminds me of that essay i just made up that i wrote for a school i never went to -- Germany and Japan: A Marriage of Convenience?
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

This is an honest point discipline, but i really don't understand how a nation of 6 million people can undermine a region of hundreds of millions.

I mean i guess something like the Netherlands used to be able to run something more bigger like Indonesia, but that was a colonial extraction economy whereas it seems like Israel has very few economic ties with their neighbours.

I guess i understand the political destabilization that results from the US focus on Israel but still, me thinks the Arab States doth protest too much



muslims cannot be held responsible for their past and present failures, it's a very socialist outlook on life honestly.

"The Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity" - Anders Behring Breivik

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without zionism we wouldn't have israel, and israel owns. so i don't know i if i can agree with the premise of the thread, i mean check this out

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jews JEWS jews JEWS jews jews jews JEWS - a cartoon duck
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tpaine posted:

thats funny manlueroroalnga

manamanabluhbluh

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discipline posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

crank dictators skim billions from the people and accept western kickbacks because of the zionist project


this seems real sloppy

egypt



libya, syria, iraq, sudan, morocco, turkey, iran, tunisia

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discipline posted:

lmao http://972mag.com/mk-michael-ben-ari-tears-up-new-testament-throws-it-in-trash/51196/

hes right

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discipline posted:

wonder if this was on livestream at the Christians for Israel conference this month



zionism sublimates the role of the jew as the christ killer, it forgives the jew much like christ does in Luke but it does not deny the christ rejecting nature of the jew. after all, the existence of zionism is predicated on the existence of antisemitism, the jew is expected to live up to the olde stereotypes.

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i would suggest that maybe if israel didn't exist the arab world would still be a fail place for assclowns and that'd only partially be because of NATO intervention.