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puget's sounds
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What I've got so far is "markets still exist, every corporation everywhere is now a non-profit co-op". I've successfully Blown Minds with this simply-worded definition but haven't thinktanked the particulars like how roads get built and who makes laws or enforces them &c. (the NKVD obviously) but it's kinda baby steps anyway since that definition is some sort of namby-pamby middle step towards True Communism In Our Time but keep in mind I'm talking to Regular People here and I need to communicate in their terms.

Another handy tool is the "it is not about greed, it is about survival and externalities" meme. I use the examples of depressing wages and building a coal power plant:

  • If I'm the boss and I'm running things, if I don't make sure to depress the wages of my workers, some other boss is doing it to his workers and is going to drive me out of business. If I want to survive, I have to depress wages. The value of the lives of my workers is an externality.

  • If I'm the boss and I'm runnign things, if I don't build that coal power plant, somebody else will, reducing the overall cost of his electricity compared to mine, and is going to drive me out of business. If I want to survive, I have to build the coal power plant. The destruction of the environment is an externality.


This appeals because a normal person's first reaction is to look for a scapegoat, the greedy capitalist fatcat banker, and taking this convenient excuse away leaves a Regular Person with an examination only of the system itself, while at the same time bringing to mind the natural endstate of that in which they live: neofeudalism and a scorched earth.

Over the course of about three minutes or so I just made a fellow drone think and gave them the red pill without resorting to ranting or using scary words, sure I accomplished nothing but I sure did make myself feel a little bit better!
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jiggago
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ok
#3
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Ricard D Wolff is pretty good at that. well maybe not, he's fairly abrasive and polemical, but at least he avoids coming off as either a cult member or a pedant.
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Tell people they get control over their jobs and lives lol.
#5
tardy on these heaters
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america is literally an evil empire
- every acre was stolen or swindled from indigenous people
- half of our nice old shit was built with slave labor
- we invade a country for no reason at least every decade
- we patrol the skies with killer robots
- our national symbol is a vulture (it is majestically soaring towards a rotting corpse from which it will tear off flesh)
- ever looked at a b2.. on weed??
#7
penitent
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america is literally awesome
- absorbed successive waves of immigrants in an inclusive society
- black president
- beat hitler
- lifted millions out of poverty with social programmes and foreign aid + investments
- 4th of july
- freedom of artistic expression
- chocolate chip pancake hot dog on a stick
- helping defeat mental illness with the widespread availability of ssris
- two buck chuck
#8
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uhhhhh theres a reason for when we invade countries.......
#9
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i like to bandy about dressed as a busty anime woman in an SS costume and try to convince regular people to support national bolshevism
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deadken posted:

america is literally awesome
- absorbed successive waves of immigrants in an inclusive society
- black president
- beat hitler
- lifted millions out of poverty with social programmes and foreign aid + investments
- 4th of july
- freedom of artistic expression
- chocolate chip pancake hot dog on a stick
- helping defeat mental illness with the widespread availability of ssris
- two buck chuck



i agree with the title of this list but disagree with everything on it

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america is literally awesome
- every acre was stolen or swindled from indigenous people
- half of our nice old shit was built with slave labor
- we invade a country for no reason at least every decade
- we patrol the skies with killer robots
- our national symbol is a vulture (it is majestically soaring towards a rotting corpse from which it will tear off flesh)
- ever looked at a b2.. on weed??

better?
#12
puget's sounds
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Tsargoon pls pretend I am georfe pimpton in good will chunting and im kind of nodding and gesturing with my glasses in my hand and mmmhmming and saying "mmmhmmmmmmmm yes... a bit mooore"
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aerdil posted:

uhhhhh theres a reason for when we invade countries.......



- two buck chuck

#14
sup b*tch
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Q: Why is communism superior to capitalism?

A: Because it heroically overcomes problems that do not exist in any other system.
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Kurdt
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sup b*tch
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Q: What is luck?
A: To live in Socialism.

Q: What is bad luck?
A: To have such luck.
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Mike Nelson here.
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once a foreign journalist was in east berlin touring a factory and he asked the factory official, "How many workers work in this factory?" the official replied: "Oh, at least half of them!"
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sup b*tch
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What would happen if the desert became a socialist country? Nothing for a while, and then there would be a sand shortage.
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Goldgelbes Löwenäffchen
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Q: Why do anarchists drink instant tea?

A: That's the only kind that was in the dumpster behind Whole Foods
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#22
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they gave your birthday cake to jehova's witnesses?
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GoldenLionTamarin posted:

Q: Why do anarchists drink instant tea?

A: That's the only kind that was in the dumpster behind Whole Foods



weak. WHY DO ANARCHISTS ONLY DRINK HERBAL TEA? BC PROPER TEA IS MURDER

#24
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yeah.... thats the joke he was riffing on. congratulations.
#25
Poronto
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and it turned into a rhizzone-style riff fest
#26
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a rhizzone-style yiff fest

i'm a rhizoceros
#27
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i understand what he was doing i was just making a pomo deconstructive commentary on how that joke aint funny
#28
Poronto
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i made a pomo deconstructive commentary on why that joke ain't funny on your mom
#29
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there's no joke that can't be made funnier by deconstructing it, for more info please buy my book: "Unpacking Yo Momma"
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

there's no joke that can't be made funnier by deconstructing it, for more info please buy my book: "Unpacking Yo Momma"



it's called the dozens man. god damn.

http://www.amazon.com/Yo-Mamas-Disfunktional-Fighting-Culture/dp/0807009415

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i always want to say 'if you havent read that book' about stuff regarding black culture but the honest truth is no one has i dont think anyone here has even read american apartheid or Robinson iirc
#32
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I don't think anyone here has even watched In Living Colour in its entirety
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Kurdt
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Jim Carrey was the funniest one on in living color
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jim carey was the comedian of my childhood