#121

kamelred posted:

i only punched the one nazi but he fell out of a tower and died so

...my name is Inigo Montoya...

#122

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

I loathed Trump’s inaugural: It offered a zero-sum, ethnically pure, backward-looking brutalistic nationalism. But it was a coherent vision, and he is rallying a true and fervent love of our home.


at least its an ethos

#123
a couple big stories out right now where a bunch of people close to trump are complaining that he's unable to stay focused on anything because he keeps flipping out whenever he looks at a TV. there's no real angle to these as leaks but it wouldn't surprise me if they were genuine complainers because he brought a whole bunch of professional shit-talkers and gossips in with him among the set that isn't part of Washington's chosen elite, and over the next few months they're likely to be moved out and more and more of the "managed" types are likely to be brought in to take their places.
#124
this is, by the way, one of many systemic reasons the easily-impressed far right has never been able to solve any of its own mass constituents' problems. Not Even Hitler
#125
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#126

1. Trump’s power is fundamentally virtual in form.

Propose this, suggest that, lie about yesterday, declare the inevitability of that which is yet to come, retreat from one position while advancing on two more, contradict oneself, tweet about the greatest possible number of arbitrary things, attack, provoke, feign movement, never apologize or restrain oneself, hint at gesture, sound the dog whistle, appear still, expand interpretations, proliferate noise, introduce turbulence, obscure predictability in dense fogs of possibility. Trump’s power arises not from any individual act but from the multiplication of possible acts.

2. Defending truths against Trump is to mistake the present battlefield entirely.

Journalists and politicians alike are unable to meaningfully respond to, resist, or rebuke Trump because they approach him as something singular and consistent, whereas he acts multiply and chaotically. They aim to pull down something which already is, whereas Trump has already departed from the here and now towards any number of things that could possibly be instead. While everyone keeps busy defending fragile shelters of truth, Trump has moved into his golden palace built on a foundation of a glistening “what if?”

3. As Trump proceeds, what is imaginable, permissible, and ultimately doable for the Right will multiply in every direction and across every axis.

In the back of a bus, like a little schoolboy, Trump can barely contain his excitement as he describes how he can “grab them by the pussy.” Words that used to only be whispered slowly reappear in everyday conversations with a dangerous allure. Young men on college campuses complain about white genocide. Swastikas are sprayed on barn doors. A family sits down for breakfast at a diner with camouflage assault rifles strung over their shoulders. The Right, feeling liberated at last from liberal political correctness, feminist shaming, white guilt, academic criticism, media reporting, and any kind of scrutiny in general, go on to dream of the birth of new worlds that resemble imaginary old ones.

4. The Left, sensing fascism on the horizon, retreats to defend the walls of a liberal democracy hallucinated in the fever of the present.

Don’t normalize this! Investigate Russia! Organize for the midterms! Start the impeachment process! Release the taxes! The constitution must be defended at all costs! These will be the rallying cries of the liberal Left that finds solace in the fantasy of an uncompromised past, the inverse mirror of the Right’s “traditional America.” This is an America without Guantanamo Bay. An America where drones have never seen flight. An America without police executions. It is an American democracy that irresistibly arcs towards justice. It’s an America that doesn’t exist. In the terrifying shadow of Trump’s virtuality, the Left seeks out security in the same institutions that enabled his appearance.

5. Trump’s virtuality is the virtuality of capital.

Trump is the avatar of a neoliberal insurrection against the liberal forces that have historically attempted to soften, slow, humanize, and manage capitalism. He is the bleeding edge, the frothing crest of a wave of deterritorialization, the spray-tanned frontier of global capital. He is the combed-over contagion that will finally bring the capitalist crisis that has so far largely been contained in the Global South to the Global North. For both Trump and capital, limits are only there to be overcome, success means success at any cost, and everything that exists only exists for the taking by those with the courage and ingenuity to dare to. It is never a question of whether something is possible, but rather of what new transgression needs to be performed to make it so.

6. Only those parts of the state that are absolutely necessary to defend wealth will remain.

The police and army will become increasingly indistinguishable and will find support while the extraneous is slashed, cut, and left to decompose in the heat of rapidly rising global temperatures. As more and more is secured for capital, everything will become less so. When everything becomes property, simply being alive constitutes trespassing, and as the rich accumulate impossibly large sums of wealth they will find that they have no safe place to keep it. The distinction between politics and war, if there ever were a meaningful one, will become impossible to see in the clouds of tear gas that will persistently hang in the air of financial centers.

7. The reterritorializing forces of capital no longer keep up with the accompanying forces of deterritorialization, unavoidably leading us into new intensities of capitalist crisis.

The disciplinary power of jails, hospitals, schools, checkpoints, and border fences now do little to ward off riots and waves of migrants and refugees. Closed bank branches in Athens burn while the bottom of the Mediterranean and the deserts of Arizona become ever more populous graveyards. Markets flash-crash as algorithms detect something that humans cannot. Energy corporations that endlessly lobby against environmental restrictions now simultaneously make pleas for responses to climate change. The flows unleashed by the global economy are spilling over the dams meant to profit from them, and even those at the top find themselves in the floodplains below. The possibilities of the new threaten to wholly extinguish life in the now.

8. As lived reality becomes ever more precarious and ultimately unsustainable, life will require more and more mediation to be managed.

Images will accelerate and proliferate at rates unimagined as possible before. Pepe the Frog will be remixed, reinterpreted, recaptioned, and reuploaded by every political tendency and faction, while videos of Richard Spencer being punched by the black bloc will be synchronized with every song to ever appear on Billboard Top 100 charts and uploaded to a playlist on youtube. Presidential press conferences will be accompanied by applause tracks, while social network executives will prepare to become politicians. Everyone will retweet Trump and Trump will retweet everyone. Writers in Eastern Europe will make up news stories for websites in Mexico to undermine trade deals with China. Everything will become more recognizable and less distinguishable as the deepening poverty of reality is compensated by ever more sophisticated forms of media.

9. When the present has fully entered into its own formal disintegration, Trump’s virtuality will necessarily become our own.

As a life becomes less possible, it will increasingly have to resort to what it can become instead. Sometimes this will only become manifest as pure fantasy: in the American dream, in shiny skyscrapers that effortlessly and gracefully float above the chaos below, on a rural commune, in outer space, on The Apprentice, in the wild wildernesses beyond civilization that fill survivalists’ minds. At other times, this will become manifest in radical experimentation in the streets that find themselves in direct confrontation with Trump’s storm troopers. Either way, the present will overflow with many different versions of what must become possible instead.

10. The present crisis being virtually ushered in by Trump must be met with a crisis of our own making.

As things increasingly disintegrate, it will not be possible to remake what has become undone. Awash in a world without limits or meaning, a place where the possibility of life itself has become threatened by the possibilities unleashed under capitalism, the only way out may be to introduce a crisis of a different kind, one that posits a fundamentally different register of possibility. In the playful invention of new repertoires, in the forging of new collectivities, in the experimentation with new practices of living, perhaps something else, something otherwise can begin. In the coming years, it will be our task to make possible that which cannot be under capitalism.



#127
So you're saying we're all Waluigi now
#128
Now that the president is a VR simulation it will finally be useful that I read Elizabeth Grosz's writing on virtuality
#129
formless, unnameable, Trump seeps over the battlements. the left retreats into liberal democracy, as all opposed things collapse to a 0-dimensional point, and then, at the juncture of the event, the third eye opens, the Goddess Mother gives birth to herself. Time works the same way
#130
it's a wonderful day to combat liberalism
#131
every adult who uses the word "playful" in their writing in 2017 should be immediately investigated for possession of child pornography
#132

cars posted:

every adult who uses the word "playful" in their writing in 2017 should be immediately investigated for possession of child pornography



In this sense, the morality of militant marxism began to represent, for Lyotard, a thoroughly messianic religious metaphor. And as though this were not a bitter enough pill to swallow, it had to be washed down by the experience of the events of May 1968. These events, to a certain way of thinking, demonstrated the near-total failure of the organised militant left to participate in the ludic insurrection of the May Days.

#133

cemetery posted:

for Lyotard


please don't use slurs

#134

cemetery posted:


i read the whole thing and don't really disagree but also couldn't help but make the jerking off motion the entire time

#135
We need the Automatic Insurrectionary Text Generator now more than ever
#136

cemetery posted:

In the playful invention of new repertoires, in the forging of new collectivities, in the experimentation with new practices of living, perhaps something else, something otherwise can begin. In the coming years, it will be our task to make possible that which cannot be under capitalism.



Yes, perhaps we could even "occupy" a public space laden with signifiers of capital; we could then model for the future an unnameable, protean horizontalism

#137
all of these super L-L-L-L-LIMINALLL what-is-to-be-done pseudo-'nalases inevitably end on a call for some nebulous creative expression of dissent

that's when I yawn, take a long puff on my pipe, and crack open one of my set of matching, handsomely leatherbound volumes of lenin and sagely murmur "hrm, not marxist. and it consistently erases class."
#138
the principal contradiction in the world-system today is whether donald j. trump is a simulation or a simulacra
#139
hes going to bring the jobs back
#140
https://twitter.com/ManuclearBomb/status/824753777286774784/
#141
He's going to bring back Jobs, Hope, and Cash.
#142
Jobs is dead and I do not support him being "brought back" by trump or anyone else
#143
#144
pres. D. Trump DENIES THE HOLOCAUST as a discrete jewish event

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/27/white-house-holocaust-remembrance-day-no-jews

It is with a heavy heart and somber mind that we remember and honor the victims, survivors, heroes of the Holocaust. It is impossible to fully fathom the depravity and horror inflicted on innocent people by Nazi terror.

Yet, we know that in the darkest hours of humanity, light shines the brightest.‎ As we remember those who died, we are deeply grateful to those who risked their lives to save the innocent.

In the name of the perished, I pledge to do everything in my power throughout my Presidency, and my life, to ensure that the forces of evil never again defeat the powers of good. Together, we will make love and tolerance prevalent throughout the world.

#145
Sam Kriss Tapped For State Department Leadership
#146

cemetery posted:

Images will accelerate and proliferate at rates unimagined as possible before. Pepe the Frog will be remixed, reinterpreted, recaptioned, and reuploaded by every political tendency and faction,



oh okay i get it now... this is a message from a time capsule buried in 2008

#147
the fuck are you the guy with this Web site and have a MFA and think non-nazis making Pepes is a prediction. shaking my Damn head.

*Mod edit. Removed potentially identifying info just to be safe side.
***Mod edit 2. Lol. Nevermind.

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#148
ok just cut and paste any random sentence from that bullshit to see what i'm talking about. it's exactly what you'd expect, this guy basically just heard about this newfangled vaporwave stuff
#149
so just to be clear we are now not allowed to post screenshots of other people's public Web sites they create to propagate their own ideas??

i posted literally nothing but the background photo and title of a public blog, i didn't post anyone's name or phone number or address or favorite pokemon

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#150
is that guy a poster here? WHICH ONE OF YOU
#151
Lol you're right. Was on mobile and didn't look close enough to see it was the exact same article they posted. Just being careful since they're new poster. Go ahead and repost the screenshot again. Also, please resume making fun of them.
#152
Im sorry that I posted the thing that is bad and did not make it clear that I didn't write it and also think that it is bad. There used to be an algorithmic text generator online that generated insurrectionary manifestos. Sorry that this is now like an entire page of this thread let's not continue to post about it. Mods please change my name to Ludic Insurrection
#153
Some of the stylistic tics of that kind of writing seem to appeal to people and might be a good thing for someone to appropriate who actually can offer something concrete
#154
I was interested to see how people here engage with that kind of stuff because it is kind of like air in the anarchist communities I have been spiralling around in for the past five years and I am frustrated by the lack of strategy and vision on our part. I was nodding along to parts of that piece but cringed at the same parts that others have noted. In real life I don't want to rage about the limitations of this kind of rhetoric but rather ask the right questions to encourage the people I am surrounded with to fill in the cognitive material that this rhetoric is missing. I am lucky to know a lot of people who are way more commited and competent than I am but we all seem to be hampered by lack of coherence in certain areas. I am thinking about starting a reading group in my area

I am unlikely to stop being embedded within Queer Anarchism since it's the largest network of people I will probably ever have to work with and I am happy to stand in for Queer Anarchism within this forum if anyone wants to talk to Queer Anarchism

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#155
#156
anarchists will do that. My best answer for you—and i'm going to get detailed because i had to confront this topic head-on at one point in my own life and I hope i can be helpful—is that most anarchists are not that type of person, but anarchist groups have really no defense against that type because, like the vague ultra-left of the academy, they have a lot of language to discuss class consciousness but no communicable concept of it. Marxists can make these same errors, and they have made them before, but they at least have certain accepted ways of bringing themselves and each other back down to earth, although not all of them use those tools. most anarchists, at least in Western countries, lack those mental & social tools entirely and often react to their use with extreme anger.

The offending type themselves are generally bourgeois or petit-bourgeois egotists with some measure of weird charisma who have been rewarded for imitating behavior that subjects all politics to bourgeois art forms, but within cultures that accuse them of "being too political", which they rightly believe they are not doing. This tends to reinforce their behavior because many of them consider themselves persecuted to begin with, which is why they obscure their behavior and opinions that way in the first place, but once they fall in with anarchists or similar ultra-leftists they tend to stick with them because those groups tend to provide them with a greater feeling of self-satisfaction for the things they say and do.

The self-therapeutic politics that many Western anarchists espouse in-group makes gestures to idealized images of "common people" and "the disadvantaged" but it is divorced from any concrete concepts of class, history, etc., so between that and the romantic, transgressive status of the "anarchist" in the popular imagination, anarchist politics can easily be made about impressing others with the extremity of the avant-garde and gatekeeping the group with that as a metric. It can include severe pressure against calling out bullshit as bullshit, even when it wastes people's time and energy. That's probably fine for a radical artistic movement but not great practically for the kind of politics they endorse. Again, you can also see this in some Western Marxist groups too throughout history, but there are also a lot of core elements of Marxism that point Marxists toward managing themselves and their group culture if it drifts too far away from certain core, concrete realities.

Some of these anarchists will figure it out and some of them never will, and some of the ones who never do are the most energetic and useful types otherwise, and that sucks but there's not a lot you can do about it because they need to come to understand that the terms in which they think are idealist, and few people can be merely talked into that. Many of them will just become liberals if they can find a way to make enough money doing what they do, which usually depends on the class status of their parents and that's not something you can control either.
#157
one more thing i'd say is that, as you begin to move into a more grounded politics, a certain sort of insecure Marxist may try to convince you that this bad politics-subjected-to-art behavior is the same thing as addressing topics of race, sex, etc., which is wrong. practical evidence for this is that you'll notice that in almost every case the people who pitchfork the "playful" bullshit also tolerate and excuse the most depraved and reactionary behavior concerning those other issues as long as it comes from someone who is more powerful in their fuck-you-dad bullshit ability. this is why we got jokes about Zizek, on the rhizzone.
#158
this country has collectively lost its mind. in discussions on the muslim ban, which is bad enough in itself, dudes come in with bog-standard "religion of peace" and "i feel safer already" redneckspeak and they are accused of being Russian Trolls
#159
as usual Democrats have a hard time understanding the difference between things they figure will anger Republicans and the truth about the world, and vice versa
#160
from 2014:

postposting posted:

got called a racist and told that i "wouldn't be out here if it was bush" today for organizing against the war on syria, lol



this exact same thing happened to me too around that time. i think about it a lot now