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1. the obama adminsitration, including hillary, was trying to stay there longer, but failed, then spun it as a win.
2. it failed because the iraqis wouldn't support a thing that would protect the troops from INDEPENDENT CRIMINAL PROSECUTION
3. they didn't budge on this largely because Manning's leak had recently demonstrated that Troops murdered a family and then called in an airstrike to cover it up, which was then covered up by high command
fuck this lady. she's so balls-deep in her own imperialist excuses i doubt she even knows she's full of shit anymore
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:One thing that was interesting was how "fact checking" has, as predicted, become just another partisan cudgel. Trump is lying!! He DID support the war, they cry. Then trump says his support was an offended "I guess" on Stern and he argued against it on tv afterward, and it turns out he's right. He lies all the time, they don't need to make shit up but they're desperate to drag him down into the same pro Iraq muck they're all complicit in
Right, 'facts' like 'fuck yeah science' are just secular religions for nerds (the sense that everyone is a nerd who constitutes their identity around a network of commodities), liberals in particular get political meaning from being smug so of course 'reality has a well known liberal bias' becomes their mantra.
the winner of the debate was "stop paying attention and don't vote"
dipshit420 posted:Le
This.
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:One thing that was interesting was how "fact checking" has, as predicted, become just another partisan cudgel. Trump is lying!! He DID support the war, they cry. Then trump says his support was an offhanded "I guess" on Stern and he argued against it on tv afterward, and it turns out he's right.
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ilmdge posted:le_nelson_mandela_face posted:One thing that was interesting was how "fact checking" has, as predicted, become just another partisan cudgel. Trump is lying!! He DID support the war, they cry. Then trump says his support was an offhanded "I guess" on Stern and he argued against it on tv afterward, and it turns out he's right.
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gay_swimmer posted:i think it was cool how hillary managed to trick domald into saying that he doesn't pay taxes and didn't hammer him on that point at all because she needed to get to the next memorized talking point
trumps blithering on about how rich he is was weird
dipshit420 posted:Le
Cornholio?
gay_swimmer posted:i think it was cool how hillary managed to trick domald into saying that he doesn't pay taxes and didn't hammer him on that point at all because she needed to get to the next memorized talking point
I was surprised Trump didn't run with that. They said they didn't pay taxes "because I'm smart." Trump could have kept going and said, "Just like any successful business leader, I have lawyers and accountants whose job it is to save me money, and they tell me what I need to pay. If there's a loophole, businesses are going to use it. That's how business works. It's the job of the IRS and the government to make sure there aren't loopholes. My opponent could have done this a long time ago. You can't blame someone running a business for using a loophole. You should blame politicians for making it in the first place and failing to close it once it gets exploited."
ilmdge posted:goat ,. trump was citing private and probably nonexistent phone conversations as proof he was against the war. thats unverifiable bs
no he was talking about how he was on hannity's show
c_man posted:whoever it was, can they ifap goat next?
you fuckman
He described America as a third-world country, an assertion rejected by almost any measure of prosperity you can cite. He again asserted that African-Americans and Hispanics are "living in hell," which – America's treatment of minorities notwithstanding – might be news to many of them.
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:ilmdge posted:goat ,. trump was citing private and probably nonexistent phone conversations as proof he was against the war. thats unverifiable bs
no he was talking about how he was on hannity's show
Erik 100% true. He would watch the show and call after and we argued a lot about it. https://t.co/SwonJFkhP5
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) September 20, 2016
also, there's an audio recording of those phone calls and he doesn't even mention iraq
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:boniface whimpers liberally
He described America as a third-world country, an assertion rejected by almost any measure of prosperity you can cite. He again asserted that African-Americans and Hispanics are "living in hell," which – America's treatment of minorities notwithstanding – might be news to many of them.
I'm gonna mail in a vote for trump even though I'm canadian, liberals are ascending to a new state of banshee idiocy shrieking this year and i just want them to burn
le_nelson_mandela_face posted:boniface whimpers liberally
He described America as a third-world country, an assertion rejected by almost any measure of prosperity you can cite. He again asserted that African-Americans and Hispanics are "living in hell," which – America's treatment of minorities notwithstanding – might be news to many of them.
See, if you disregard all the prancing imps of Satan piercing your flash with pitchforks and lighting you on fire, it's not so bad

You got incredibly mad, while I remained calm throughout: The Presidential Debate
ilmdge posted:
You got incredibly mad, while I remained calm throughout: The Presidential Debate
100% odds this article was written sometime in august

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drwhat posted:liberals are ascending to a new state of banshee idiocy shrieking this year and i just want them to burn
this is a true thing
1. not watching it
c_man posted:
(the face of every woman ive ever approached in a bar flashes before my eyes for some reason)
We should make the head Hitler debate great again by just nominating LF posters to pick a side and doing it ourselves