#801
considering that in this current media climate, with the alt-right slavering to hang literally anything on ames (idk/c much about taibbi), the fact that not one person has accused him of doing anything untoward with a woman is pretty convincing to me. thirdplace, these stories that are claimed to be satirical may actually be satirical.
#802
The most recent round of centrist media people feigning outrage and shock at this stuff is because of Taibbi, he had a book coming out
#803
he also had a show on WFMU with Alex Parenne taht was running for about 4 weeks that they pulled the plug on
#804
was watching arrested development reruns a few days ago and was doing that subconcious thing of wondering which actors are likely creeps. jeffrey tambor plays his character pretty well, so i ended up being like 'he is at that age where he's probably built some creep habits by now', lo and behold
#805
i'm looking forward to getting all the way to the bottom of the list of individual deviant sex pre-verts, at which point we'll have accidentally arrived at the correct take on this stuff by virtue of having indicted the entire class without respect to the particulars of any one incident
#806
https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/gyjkq9/i-tried-to-break-the-louis-ck-story-and-it-nearly-killed-my-career

https://www.vice.com/sv/article/dpxvmw/terry-richardson-is-our-favorite-176-v16n10

#807

Caesura109 posted:

was watching arrested development reruns a few days ago and was doing that subconcious thing of wondering which actors are likely creeps. jeffrey tambor plays his character pretty well, so i ended up being like 'he is at that age where he's probably built some creep habits by now', lo and behold



Have you never watched the Larry Sanders Show?????

#808
no even arrested developement was before my time
#809

Meursault posted:

Caesura109 posted:

was watching arrested development reruns a few days ago and was doing that subconcious thing of wondering which actors are likely creeps. jeffrey tambor plays his character pretty well, so i ended up being like 'he is at that age where he's probably built some creep habits by now', lo and behold

Have you never watched the Larry Sanders Show?????


Hey now!!

#810
what I like is the inability to handle ambiguity in some people's minds, I saw someone on Twitter saying that you should read Taibbi's book about Eric Garner because it's woke, but you should shoplift it because he is the bad sex man.
#811
Taibbis apology was very good and I'm having trouble with the idea that we should drag one of the most important writers of our generation for writing shitty stuff 20 years ago even when they apologize. There's a reason why guys like O'Reilly, Trump and Weinstein chose the tactic of "deny everything, smear the victim, threaten to sue." its not just that they're bad people. It's that it works. It worked for decades. If we can't accept real contrition then we're saying that the first tactic is the only one that works, and that's going to impel more to try it. Like yeah, fuck Weinstein and his fake sex therapy but the President got where he is by never apologizing and the right is happy to elect an unrepentant child molester to the senate because it helps their aims
#812

Petrol posted:

on the contrary, if they claimed those things while writing that kind of stuff it would make it far more suspicious imo


the fact that people impute those things onto them today when they dont appear to have moved ideologically beyond nazbol since that time does make it suspicious imo

#813
whats nazbol about their current stuff?
#814

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

Taibbis apology was very good and I'm having trouble with the idea that we should drag one of the most important writers of our generation for writing shitty stuff 20 years ago even when they apologize. There's a reason why guys like O'Reilly, Trump and Weinstein chose the tactic of "deny everything, smear the victim, threaten to sue." its not just that they're bad people. It's that it works. It worked for decades. If we can't accept real contrition then we're saying that the first tactic is the only one that works, and that's going to impel more to try it. Like yeah, fuck Weinstein and his fake sex therapy but the President got where he is by never apologizing and the right is happy to elect an unrepentant child molester to the senate because it helps their aims


imho the Condemn This Sex Criminal Who You'll Never Meet Game is exhausting and, tbh, pretty narcissistic, so i really didn't intend to prosecute the case. just think the satire defense (which taibbi's apology also relies on) is almost insultingly transparent & am pretty surprised more people here don't feel the same way. but, you know, whatever!

#815

lo posted:

whats nazbol about their current stuff?



that's just c_man stringing random phrases together, he's a chatbot

#816

thirdplace posted:

Can you post the full version of this gif where, at first, Seinfeld is laughing at Bill Cosby stand up for six months

#817

drwhat posted:

he's a chatbot


we all are

#818

swampman posted:

Can you post the full version of this gif where, at first, Seinfeld is laughing at Bill Cosby stand up for six months


no because that particular Cosby set involves fucking a dozen prostitutes and then mocking them in a newspaper you own, and it is rude to post pornography on the rhizzone

#819
Former Subway pitchman Jared Fogle will continue to serve his nearly 15-year prison term for multiple child pornography charges after a district court judge struck down his “sovereign” pro se motion challenging her subject matter jurisdiction as frivolous.

Fogle pleaded guilty in 2015 to two criminal charges against him – conspiracy to distribute/receive child pornography and distribution/receipt of child pornography, and traveling and attempting to travel in interstate commerce to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor. Fogle, who was then represented by counsel, was sentenced to 188 months in prison. He appealed, arguing his above-guidelines sentence was improper, but the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed his sentence in June 2016.

Fogle then filed a pro se motion to correct error, relying on a document filed with the court in which Frank Edwin Pate, an inmate in the same prison where Fogle is being detained, argued the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Indiana lacked subject matter jurisdiction over Fogle. Specifically, Pate wrote, “whether a judicial judgment is lawful depends on whether the sovereign has authority to render it.”

Judge Tanya Walton Pratt struck down the contention that she lacked subject matter jurisdiction in a succinct two-page order on Wednesday.

“If Fogle is now claiming to be ‘sovereign,’ the Seventh Circuit has rejected theories of individual sovereignty, immunity from prosecution, and their ilk,” Pratt wrote. “The Seventh Circuit has instructed that these theories should be rejected summarily, however they are presented.”

“Regardless of his theory, Fogle’s challenge of this Court’s jurisdiction is rejected and his Motion to Correct Clear Error Pursuant to Rule 52(b) … is denied,” she said.
#820
lmao i love that shit
#821
when settler law respects your ancestors land claims and testimony for four centuries regardless of their apparent absurdity but then you go to prison
#822

stegosaurus posted:

when settler law respects your ancestors land claims and testimony for four centuries regardless of their apparent absurdity but then you go to prison



tfw

#823
maybe all men even gay men are socially conditioned to not view women as people and just vessals to cum into and/or consume their efforts with 0 gratitude

women hold up half the sky and hold the other half with their fucking feet

you know even leftist men like ole sammy kriss/mark ames can be horrendous to women in person and fictionally and still be leftists!
fucking sick and tired of sexism not being view an endemic issue by leftist men, who will still consume porn and think its ok to choke their girlfriends during sex with 0 attempts of asking if its ok
#824

Petrol posted:

speaking of which, have we discussed matt taibbi and mark ames yet? https://jezebel.com/writers-matt-taibbi-and-mark-ames-serviced-no-one-but-t-1820007051



Ames also had a column called “Whore-R stories,” in which he claims he slept with sex workers and wrote about his experiences, presented as non-fictional accounts. The column was sometimes accompanied by photos of the women, details about their bodies, their performances, and their personalities. (The column is a favorite among some Men’s Rights Activists NSFW).



i don't know if anybody actually checked out the Men’s Rights Activists link but in addition to the sex worker pics, ames appears to be doing the deed in one of them so unless everything is staged (like with the women being fully aware of the satire) it's pretty hard to justify

#825
the articles in that link are now behind a $99 paywall...
#826

Synergy posted:

Petrol posted:

speaking of which, have we discussed matt taibbi and mark ames yet? https://jezebel.com/writers-matt-taibbi-and-mark-ames-serviced-no-one-but-t-1820007051

Ames also had a column called “Whore-R stories,” in which he claims he slept with sex workers and wrote about his experiences, presented as non-fictional accounts. The column was sometimes accompanied by photos of the women, details about their bodies, their performances, and their personalities. (The column is a favorite among some Men’s Rights Activists NSFW).



i don't know if anybody actually checked out the Men’s Rights Activists link but in addition to the sex worker pics, ames appears to be doing the deed in one of them so unless everything is staged (like with the women being fully aware of the satire) it's pretty hard to justify


What this? http://exile.ru/transient/162/whore1.jpg
He's fully clothed...

#827

Synergy posted:

Petrol posted:

speaking of which, have we discussed matt taibbi and mark ames yet? https://jezebel.com/writers-matt-taibbi-and-mark-ames-serviced-no-one-but-t-1820007051

Ames also had a column called “Whore-R stories,” in which he claims he slept with sex workers and wrote about his experiences, presented as non-fictional accounts. The column was sometimes accompanied by photos of the women, details about their bodies, their performances, and their personalities. (The column is a favorite among some Men’s Rights Activists NSFW).



i don't know if anybody actually checked out the Men’s Rights Activists link but in addition to the sex worker pics, ames appears to be doing the deed in one of them so unless everything is staged (like with the women being fully aware of the satire) it's pretty hard to justify


what. Barf

#828
okay it seems theres elements of this story my brain skipped over or something.i feel gross
#829
I dont agree that any evidence has been posted in this thread and I'm not going to go look for any, because Ames and Taibbi were always already problematic anyway because they're not communists. iirc. Like if you're not reading Mao... of course you're going to be more likely to harass women.
#830
C:/whore1.jpg
#831
ames was just trolling his readers by posting reviews of whores 1, 2, and 4
#832
well, i hadn't seen that picture before

ames just seems like such a medium-intelligence doofus on his podcast, it seemed entirely believable to me that he was really into writing a bunch of dumb violent shit and then irl being way too ineffectual to actually put anything similar into practice
#833
well this is news to me. lefty comedian jamie kilstein has also been exposed as a serial sexual harasser and his reaction has apparently been to deny and also rebrand himself as "ex male feminist". fucking yikes. my shock comes from not having followed him since about 2010 when i met him after his show at a local festival and we hung out, seemed a nice guy irl but i guess my experience could have been really different if i was a woman. following him on twitter for a little while after that and trying to listen to citizen radio put me off. i think the militant veganism was a big part of it because it was of the kind that seemed to presume everyone has access to and can afford hip organic health foods of the moment. anyway,
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/jamie-kilstein-rebrands-as-ex-male-feminist/
#834

Petrol posted:

seemed a nice guy irl but i guess my experience could have been really different if i was a woman



the #1 catchprase for 2017

#835
lol im so surprised a militant vegan bro turned out to be a sexually abusive creep
#836

roseweird posted:

Petrol posted:

seemed a nice guy irl but i guess my experience could have been really different if i was a woman

the #1 catchprase for 2017


#837
https://medium.com/@imasurvivor/heres-how-gal-gadot-actually-responded-when-her-friend-raped-me-7aa7a2bea919
#838
Im quite liking how reaching peak Sam Kriss has become a thread for serial sexual harassers/abusers
#839
In the Post-Weinstein World: Do Black Victims Matter?

The Harvey Weinsteins and Louis C.K.’s of the world have been cast out, but many famous men who stand accused of abusing black women still roam free.

#840

xipe posted:

https://medium.com/@imasurvivor/heres-how-gal-gadot-actually-responded-when-her-friend-raped-me-7aa7a2bea919



that was fast