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Marxism is just the worship of an individual. He belongs to the history of organized religion. He says nothing about socialism; he's just a theorist of 19th century capitalism. To assume he offered a doctrine for today makes no sense. If we were still repeating him now, civilization would be dead!

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There's an entire state of matter named after Einstein you egregiously stupid shithead.
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glomper_stomper posted:

is there any real basis for chomsky's endorsement of clinton?


no, he basically just says a democrat is always better than a republican in terms of damage control, and that hillary, being the presumptive nominee, will be who he probably votes for, or would vote for in the national election.

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sorry op i thought you were an actual chomskyist for a whole moment. whew am i salty.

wheres my blood pressure pills
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I'm not a great marx specialist, but as far as i understand,
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icecrystal posted:

edite: fuck embed



remove the "s" from "https" when u wanna embed a video then it works

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tsinava posted:

icecrystal posted:
edite: fuck embed


remove the "s" from "https" when u wanna embed a video then it works


THANK YOU

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Wait til he hears about diamat. "Well im no expert but going by the name its a brand of yogurt"

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tsinava posted:

There's an entire state of matter named after Einstein you egregiously stupid shithead.

an element too

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political car tune
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icecrystal posted:

tsinava posted:

icecrystal posted:
edite: fuck embed


remove the "s" from "https" when u wanna embed a video then it works

THANK YOU


Alternatively, erase everything but the video ID from the URL for clean and concise coding/posting

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tsinava posted:

sorry op i thought you were an actual chomskyist for a whole moment. whew am i salty.

wheres my blood pressure pills



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Chomsky will have a death bed conversation to Marxism
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imo physics is demystified platonism
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The s in https stands for secure.
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Poronto
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physics is fake and lame imo. any field they woudl give me a masters degree in is patently bollocks
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It seems fake to me. I'm just a regular guy trying to get my nut. All these different kinds of strings and matters just don't resonate with me.
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besides the stuff about newtonian physics and einsteinan stuff there's also the fact that chomsky himself has shit similarly named after HIMSELF. i've always thoguht htis was one of the funniest things he's ever said

in all fairness to the colossal nerd though he didn't Endorse clinton or wahtever dumpster media just ran with that idea based on his repeating the same thing he's said for like 100 years every election about lesser evilism
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looking back at my life, the moment when I discovered that a well known and respected linguist who i widely cited in various 1st year university essays was a well known lil babby anarchist is one of the more surreal, both my own utter ignorance and, yeah the other part
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chickeon posted:

besides the stuff about newtonian physics and einsteinan stuff there's also the fact that chomsky himself has shit similarly named after HIMSELF. i've always thoguht htis was one of the funniest things he's ever said

in all fairness to the colossal nerd though he didn't Endorse clinton or wahtever dumpster media just ran with that idea based on his repeating the same thing he's said for like 100 years every election about lesser evilism

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Norm Chompsky Holocaust Denial
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its worth repeating that chomsky is pretty dumb when it comes to marxism or really any kind of theory and non-analytical philosophy. it quickly becomes clear in any of his printed interviews about it. he knows literally zero about marx's thought.
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My BA is in linguistics and every time I tell someone that they immediately talk about Chomsky.
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That makes sense, actually - you know that Chomsky got their start in linguistics? If you're a linguist you should really check out this book they wrote in 1957 called Syntactic Structures. I honestly don't know why they didn't just do linguistics their whole life, I guess it was their voilon d'Ingres (that's a foreign language called French - if you're into linguistics, you should definitely take a look at French. Lots of fucked up vowels sounds in that language.).
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Chomsky's linguistic theories have been more pernicious than anything political he has said.

As an anarchist, Chomsky naturally distrusted the state, large institutions in general, and the university and all its functionaries. Disaffected intellectuals of this kind, according to one historian, “are less vulnerable to the corruption of title and salary because their resistance is moral, almost instinctual”. Chomsky respected science, especially mathematics and physics. By the same token, he was deeply suspicious of the so-called ‘social sciences’, regarding them as patently ideological. Chomsky dreamed of ridding linguistics of such contamination. He would do this by detaching the discipline from its current institutional affiliations and rendering it purely formal - if possible, purely mathematical. Was it no more than a happy coincidence that this was exactly what the nascent computer industry - and its military sponsors - required?

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aerdil posted:

its worth repeating that chomsky is pretty dumb when it comes to marxism or really any kind of theory and non-analytical philosophy. it quickly becomes clear in any of his printed interviews about it. he knows literally zero about marx's thought.



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swampman posted:

That makes sense, actually - you know that Chomsky got their start in linguistics? If you're a linguist you should really check out this book they wrote in 1957 called Syntactic Structures. I honestly don't know why they didn't just do linguistics their whole life, I guess it was their voilon d'Ingres (that's a foreign language called French - if you're into linguistics, you should definitely take a look at French. Lots of fucked up vowels sounds in that language.).



Cool I'll check this out. Thought he was just famous for speaking near, but on topics entirely distinct from, Foucault.

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the chomper gave foucault the aids that killed him., rest in peace to noam chomsky
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as Gawker's China-stayer Tom Scocca pointed out, "practically free" is premised on the same scam that richard pryor used in superman iii, where (close to nothing) * a billion = nothing, probably
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there is "Einsteinism" in physics as attested to by the many stupid crazy people who think special & general relativity are bogus. much as you see with the infallible science of MArxism Leninism.
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Mike Nelson here.
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if i picked ten self-described marxists from my facebook i'd bet i'd get at least five radically different conceptions of what marxism really means and they'd be mutually hostile to the point where they thought each other were repulsive hacks. and they'd give very detailed answers why the other people were completely confused about what marx thought about basically every major issue.

but that's probably true about everything. i mean even anarchists radically disagree about what anarchism means and you'd think that would be a pretty easy one to pin down. i used to make fun of anarchists on message boards by asking them if they supported the zapatista's war on drugs and i'd get elaborate posts back about how anarchists aren't against laws, even though i mean if you told most european anarchists that you're an anarchist who supports laws they'd laugh at you.
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prune your friends list
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i am Friends with physicists on facebook thanks to irl friends/family and if i wanted to watch them hiss and claw at each other for a few days over who is king shitlord i could post a one line story that says "what is general relativity?"
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getfiscal posted:

if i picked ten self-described marxists from my facebook i'd bet i'd get at least five radically different conceptions of what marxism really means and they'd be mutually hostile to the point where they thought each other were repulsive hacks. and they'd give very detailed answers why the other people were completely confused about what marx thought about basically every major issue.

Several discussions on these boards between posters like yourself, babahoboputin, or blinkinnaise, have eventually devolved into both parties identifying the specific point at which semantic interpretation lead to disagreement, followed by a synthesis of both stances, strengthening the minds of the cadre. By which I mean, you should be encouraging your friends to confront each others' conceptions of Marxism in the good faith that all parties want mutual understanding and political unity. Lol.

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Mike Nelson here.
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tpaine posted:

wait what the fuck is this thread even about?

threads aren't "about" things, dimwit