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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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The more I read the very common opinion of fuck war refugees because they might reduce our standard of living the more sympathetic I become to the Maoist Third Worldist proposition that the citizens of first world countries are vicious spoiled clown people who deserve to die by the millions
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Poronto
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what about every time u look in the mirror
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/we-need-to-look-after-our-own-first-say-people-who-would-never-help-anyone-20150907101741
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its almost like nothing has cahnged since 2007 and monkeysmashesheven is still extremely correct.
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i feel like a lot of the mtw analysis of the current global situation makes lots of sense but there seems to be a tendency to get kind of goofy when talking about organization
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c_man posted:

i feel like a lot of the mtw analysis of the current global situation makes lots of sense but there seems to be a tendency to get kind of goofy when talking about organization


funny, its almost as if COINTELPRO doesn't particularly care what people are saying as long as they can't/won't effectively organize around it...

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UNUSUALY COOL
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Keven posted:

I'm still pretty sure mtw is objectively correct revolutionary science but it's no way for me to live my life. Sorry everyone.

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#9
Mike Nelson here.
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japan is taking zero syrian refugees. do you need any more proof that they are a fascist legacy regime that must be crushed by the united action of the people of asia.
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Why do you think they should open their borders? Change, except in something entirely evil, is a dangerous thing. How can a society ensure the success of its people if it can't raise them, but instead imports them fully grown from God knows where. Furthermore, what is to become of the places where these people come from? Isn't helping them to flee just prolonging and spreading the conflict.
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Germans need poor people to buy their manufactured goods. Since they've run out of foreign markets, it makes sense to develop one at home.
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Actually a bunch of articles/stats are claiming its a labor shortage since Germany has the same demographic issues as Japan. So rather than kindness (though that is being exhibited) it's economic benefit they're after.
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Occupied Aztlan
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if theyre doing it for increased access to labor then why the strict controls against ukrainians
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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fape posted:

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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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i clicked on a thread about MUSLIM RADICALS PLANNING TO CONVERT MIGRANTS ready to troll some dudes but the top comment is calling radicals "murdering fuck nipples" so that's a quick reminder of the kind of intellect that is buying this stuff
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bb bourgeoisie
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I had a dream last night that I trying to make aliyah but accidentally joined ISIL instead. True story.
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fape posted:

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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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Jeb Salute!
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UNUSUALY COOL
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former LF superstar poster michael moore has a new movie. it's called Where To Invade Next. in it Mike Moore "invades" the imperial core of Europe with a big American flag, to talk with other white people about how good the white people have it there in Europe. he intends this as a form of united states bashing as he visits united states enemies germany and slovakia and hears about how cool they are. at the opener he let everyone know that he withholds criticism of anything he sees or hears in the film, and also that he goes to Tunisia to talk about clinics for a few minutes at the end. goongrats Miguel on your movie and i hope you go back to europe forever & fuck off forever, as well.
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im gonna see it anyway even tho it prolly be bad as it do
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The other side of this latest wave of xenophobia is the use of the occasion to re-enforce narratives of Western Europe as the bastion of civilized values in contrast to former communist states, and obscure the extant to which enduring problems in Eastern Europe are the result of the victory of capitalism as opposed to the stubborn atavism of the native inhabitants:

When joining the European Union — as the former Communist countries have done since 2004 — nations are asked to pledge support to a raft of so-called European values, including open markets, transparent government, respect for an independent media, open borders, cultural diversity, protection of minorities and a rejection of xenophobia.

But the reality is that the former Communist states have proved sluggish in actually absorbing many of these values and practicing them. Oligarchs, cronyism and endemic corruption remain a part of daily life in many of the countries, freedom of the press is in decline while rising nationalism and populist political movements have stirred anti-immigrant tensions.

Anti-racism is as potentially co-potable as anything else.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/world/europe/eastern-europe-migrant-refugee-crisis.html
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hi
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yeah it's really frustrating watching Eastern European xenophobia get blamed on Putinism, Slavic backwardness, religiosity and not, you know, the massive economic dislocation that hit the region after the USSR collapsed.

it's like: guess what Western liberals? the Soviet Union was once a place the Third World & PoC looked up to and were well treated in. you undermined it and sabotaged it at every turn and, while you felt uneasy about that Reagan guy's arms buildups and genocidal proxy wars, you ultimately embraced the end result as the birth of a new "open society."

in conclusion: .
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discipline posted:

Urbandale posted:

if theyre doing it for increased access to labor then why the strict controls against ukrainians

they have literally no control over the massive influx of refugees without it becoming an incredible disaster.

oops they did it anyway. lol. germany just invoked emergency powers to (every sentence starting like that is always a good time) impose border controls and ignore Schengen. "temporarily"

Germany introduced border controls on Sunday, and dramatically halted all train traffic with Austria
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/13/germany-to-close-borders-exit-schengen-emergency-measures

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HenryKrinkle posted:

yeah it's really frustrating watching Eastern European xenophobia get blamed on Putinism, Slavic backwardness, religiosity and not, you know, the massive economic dislocation that hit the region after the USSR collapsed.

it's like: guess what Western liberals? the Soviet Union was once a place the Third World & PoC looked up to and were well treated in. you undermined it and sabotaged it at every turn and, while you felt uneasy about that Reagan guy's arms buildups and genocidal proxy wars, you ultimately embraced the end result as the birth of a new "open society."

in conclusion: .


some looked up to them, others not so much:
https://sites.google.com/a/umn.edu/historpedia/home/politics-and-government/the-secret-war-and-hmong-genocide-fall-2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanzibar_Revolution
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/masters-of-ethiopias-red-terror-face-trial-for-genocide-1302752.html

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drwhat posted:

discipline posted:

Urbandale posted:

if theyre doing it for increased access to labor then why the strict controls against ukrainians

they have literally no control over the massive influx of refugees without it becoming an incredible disaster.

oops they did it anyway. lol. germany just invoked emergency powers to (every sentence starting like that is always a good time) impose border controls and ignore Schengen. "temporarily"

Germany introduced border controls on Sunday, and dramatically halted all train traffic with Austria
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/13/germany-to-close-borders-exit-schengen-emergency-measures



Just in time for a meditation on Kant by Yanis

http://yanisvaroufakis.eu/2015/09/14/on-german-moral-leadership-english-version-of-op-ed-in-sundays-frankfurter-allgemeine-zeitung/

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swirlsofhistory posted:

HenryKrinkle posted:

yeah it's really frustrating watching Eastern European xenophobia get blamed on Putinism, Slavic backwardness, religiosity and not, you know, the massive economic dislocation that hit the region after the USSR collapsed.

it's like: guess what Western liberals? the Soviet Union was once a place the Third World & PoC looked up to and were well treated in. you undermined it and sabotaged it at every turn and, while you felt uneasy about that Reagan guy's arms buildups and genocidal proxy wars, you ultimately embraced the end result as the birth of a new "open society."

in conclusion: .

some looked up to them, others not so much:
https://sites.google.com/a/umn.edu/historpedia/home/politics-and-government/the-secret-war-and-hmong-genocide-fall-2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanzibar_Revolution
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/masters-of-ethiopias-red-terror-face-trial-for-genocide-1302752.html



lmao you moron

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discipline posted:

Urbandale posted:

if theyre doing it for increased access to labor then why the strict controls against ukrainians

they have literally no control over the massive influx of refugees without it becoming an incredible disaster. they were hoping the hungarians could do their dirty work. but when the media started to report on hungarians writing numbers on people and putting them on trains they knew they were hopeless. besides these people are walking to germany - what will you do, gun them down?

they will settle with them sleeping in train stations for a while before the germans start to complain. most likely they're going to start building camps for these people, but they won't call them camps. they will set them up as little prisons where people can work for a tiny wage. these people will open little shops and become little entrepreneurs. this is what will happen in the short term.

in the long term I don't even want to think about it.



http://www.rt.com/news/315168-buchenwald-refugees-housed-germany/

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@crow: shit lmao we done did it
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Crow posted:

discipline posted:
Urbandale posted:
if theyre doing it for increased access to labor then why the strict controls against ukrainians
they have literally no control over the massive influx of refugees without it becoming an incredible disaster. they were hoping the hungarians could do their dirty work. but when the media started to report on hungarians writing numbers on people and putting them on trains they knew they were hopeless. besides these people are walking to germany - what will you do, gun them down?

they will settle with them sleeping in train stations for a while before the germans start to complain. most likely they're going to start building camps for these people, but they won't call them camps. they will set them up as little prisons where people can work for a tiny wage. these people will open little shops and become little entrepreneurs. this is what will happen in the short term.

in the long term I don't even want to think about it.


http://www.rt.com/news/315168-buchenwald-refugees-housed-germany/


ahahahahaha

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the u.s. is the one responsible for all of this anyway, they told turkey to create this refugee "crisis" to justify another wave of invasions into Syria, this time with european nations on board

http://www.globalresearch.ca/social-engineering-101-how-to-make-a-refugee-crisis-destruction-of-all-prevailing-political-orders-in-the-middle-east/5475758
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as the Democratic Nominee For President 2016 my official immigration policy is for England to covertly bomb Mexico
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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HenryKrinkle posted:

yeah it's really frustrating watching Eastern European xenophobia get blamed on Putinism, Slavic backwardness, religiosity and not, you know, the massive economic dislocation that hit the region after the USSR collapsed.

it's like: guess what Western liberals? the Soviet Union was once a place the Third World & PoC looked up to and were well treated in. you undermined it and sabotaged it at every turn and, while you felt uneasy about that Reagan guy's arms buildups and genocidal proxy wars, you ultimately embraced the end result as the birth of a new "open society."

in conclusion: .



I find it difficult to believe any narrative that casts russian people as heroes, or indeed anything other than half mongol and half cirrhosis

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Crow posted:

.custom287572{color:#04048C !important; background-color:#F7F7F7 !important; }discipline posted:.custom287474{}Urbandale posted:if theyre doing it for increased access to labor then why the strict controls against ukrainians they have literally no control over the massive influx of refugees without it becoming an incredible disaster. they were hoping the hungarians could do their dirty work. but when the media started to report on hungarians writing numbers on people and putting them on trains they knew they were hopeless. besides these people are walking to germany - what will you do, gun them down?

they will settle with them sleeping in train stations for a while before the germans start to complain. most likely they're going to start building camps for these people, but they won't call them camps. they will set them up as little prisons where people can work for a tiny wage. these people will open little shops and become little entrepreneurs. this is what will happen in the short term.

in the long term I don't even want to think about it.

http://www.rt.com/news/315168-buchenwald-refugees-housed-germany/



by the living standards of much of the third world buchenwald is luxurious

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/13/germany-to-close-borders-exit-schengen-emergency-measures

Germany introduced border controls on Sunday, and dramatically halted all train traffic with Austria, after the country’s regions said they could no longer cope with the overwhelming number of refugees entering the country.

Interior minister, Thomas de Maizière, announced the measures after German officials said record numbers of refugees, most of them from Syria, had stretched the system to breaking point. “This step has become necessary,” he told a press conference in Berlin, adding it would cause disruption.

Asylum seekers must understand “they cannot choose the states where they are seeking protection,” he told reporters.

All trains between Austria and Bavaria, the principal conduit through which 450,000 refugees have arrived in Germany this year, ceased at 5pm Berlin time. Only EU citizens and others with valid documents would be allowed to pass through Germany’s borders, de Maizière said.
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Any substance to the rumours that us & Turkey conspired to flush the refugee camps & drive people to Europe in order to enlist EU support for bombing Syria?
Cool if true