Panopticon posted:

RedMaistre posted:

'Voter turnout set to be lowest in history'

i expect it was lower during the dictatorship

Here the numbers, btw, for all the prior Greek elections (excluding the most recent one)

RedMaistre posted:

Shifting perspectives (as we constantly must do) what was the defense minister of the Greek government, the one that has proved itself over the past year the duplicitous cat-paw of the US vis-a-vis Berlin, threatening to do if its absurd bad faith demands were not met?

"In a shock escalation of the rhetoric surrounding bailout talks in Brussels, the Greek defence minister Panos Kammenos vowed: “If they strike us, we will strike them.”

Kammenos said: “If they deal a blow to Greece, then they should know the the migrants will get papers to go to Berlin.”

“If Europe leaves us in the crisis, we will flood it with migrants, and it will be even worse for Berlin if in that wave of millions of economic migrants there will be some jihadists of the Islamic State too."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greece-threatens-to-unleash-wave-of-migrants-on-the-rest-of-europe-including-isis-jihadists-10097432.html

http://www.westernjournalism.com/morals-left-greece-says-dont-make-us-pay-back-340-billion-will-send-terrorists-europe-blackmail-coming-bankrupt-american-city-near/

(Ironically, or rather fittingly, this threat was made by a man who is a member of the xenophobic far right party ANEL that Syriza partnered with)

Same defense minster of country-which-is-a-key-entrance-point-into-Europe-for-anyone-leaving-from-Turkey rules out Greek involvement in fighting Daesh, saying that they are focusing instead on guaranteeing and restoring stability in Syria and the region, whatever that means....

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/11/16/greek-defmin-kammenos-rules-out-greek-military-intervention/

getfiscal posted:

Conspiracy of Fire is a pretty badass name... like a 1980s spy thriller title... good luck to them.

Mid-aughts post-hardcore band

RedMaistre posted:

Tsipras visits with Netanyahu, talks about fighting ISIS ( ), extracting East Mediterranean oil, and recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's historic capital.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Greeces-Center-Left-Government-Seeks-Stronger-Ties-with-Israel-20151126-0031.html

i thought the "jewish gold" thing was just a right-wing myth, maybe syriza knows something we dont

MarxUltor posted:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/a-country-threatened-by-a-dollar400-billion-ripoff/ar-BBno5qA?li=BBnb7KvThe country's stake in the National Bank of Greece dropped to 24 percent from 57 percent, and in Eurobank it fell to 2.4 percent from 35 percent, while its stake in Alpha Bank was reduced to 11 percent from 64 percent and in Piraeus Bank it dropped to 22 percent from 67 percent. This translates to a loss of almost $44 billion that Greek taxpayers gave to bail out the banks over the past three years.

Greek stock market and legal experts believe that the maneuvers were engineered after a statutory legal provision was amended by the Greek Parliament that allowed private investors to price bank shares using a so-called "book-building method." Under this method, the share price in capital increases is not predetermined, and investors set the price at which they want to buy the shares.

It also made it mandatory for the country's regulatory body, the Hellenic Financial Stability Fund, to accept book-building prices, even if they were not properly reflecting share values.

EU and IMF made Greece pass a law that is mandatory to accept unquestioningly for state owned assets the price which any private capitalist wishes to pay for them.

this is cool. also relatedly (to me anyway), recently government bonds in most major Western economies have begun to be valued less than corporate bonds which essentially translates to the moneyed classes now feel that giving your money to a corporation for long term keeping is more secure and more apt to last than giving your money to a state.

as far as I have read this is the first time this has ever happened in the history of bonds. it is timed perfectly with the other signs of the diminishing of nationstate/democratic/publicly exercised power vs corporate/secret/private power

The state apparatus won't be perverted into a capitalist horror show it will just be defunded out of relevance and slowly choke to death by successive Austerity and Conservative governments and shit like this financial movement and by next crisis it will be the banks deciding which governments will fail instead of the other way around

this almost seems too obvious to post. everything is so fucked lol

Superabound posted:

which make their money from incarceration, the “processing” of asylum seekers or the provision of private “security” in conflict zones.


welp. it all makes sense now. chears everyone

it's mega amazing cool how capitalist incentivization works. you pay for terrorist informants and you get terrorists. you pay for refugee processing you get refugees. you pay for jails you get criminals. it's just an endless barrel of fun

RedMaistre posted:

Varoufakis allegedly funneled thousands to offshore bank account.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4596933.ece

"well what would you have me do?! pay them to the corrupt Greek administration?!"