#81
canadian expat uncle: "australia has a pretty good system. they keep all the immigrants out and homeless people are made to get jobs"
me: "that sounds pretty reasonable. i think they did that in the soviet union"
canadian expat uncle: "yeah it's good"
#82

NoFreeWill posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

humanity is not going extinct from global warming lol

well we keep adding co2 at a higher rate, and if we get to 10 deg. celsius change (depending on feedback effects not that unreasonable) we are totally fucked. even 6 might be enough to kill most of us from starvation.



nope

#83

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

NoFreeWill posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

humanity is not going extinct from global warming lol

well we keep adding co2 at a higher rate, and if we get to 10 deg. celsius change (depending on feedback effects not that unreasonable) we are totally fucked. even 6 might be enough to kill most of us from starvation.

nope



My whiteness keeps me insulated from thermodynamics.

#84
no but isn't it going to be cool to be like the last 500 humans alive in a dome after the warming effects spiral out of control. i always wanted to go to another planet, but this is like bringing another planet to me. i don't even have to get out of my posting chair
#85
i have been alive for 100 years. i can build a barrier between myself and anything
#86
come on we did without sedentary agriculture for like 50,000 years
#87
you have to be a pretty extreme phenomenon to exterminate this species of sapient cockroaches. ablooo it's 10 degrees hotter on average or oh no there's no more bangladesh doesn't cut it
#88
lol as if the wise bengali will ever perish from this earth
#89
prettymuch all the rapes in the peace corps are committed by bengalis iirc
#90

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

you have to be a pretty extreme phenomenon to exterminate this species of sapient cockroaches. ablooo it's 10 degrees hotter on average or oh no there's no more bangladesh doesn't cut it


well we have been pretty successful in a pretty limited temperature range. we might go back to being hunter-gatherers if there is enough to sustain us.

#91
bengal is in india, whereas bangladeshis will certainly lose their entire nation and become refugees.
#92

NoFreeWill posted:

bengal is in india, whereas bangladeshis

lol you accept the division between hindoostani and mussulmann

#93

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

humanity is not going extinct from global warming lol

yeah the ruling class unimpeded will survive easily

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#95
tpaine is caught in that no mans land between being feeling so superior to everyone that you despise them and feeling so (even more) superior to everyone that you love and pity them. like babies. Keep reachin for the stars tpubbin, youll reach that white hot center of Happy Nihilism sooner or later
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chickeon posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

humanity is not going extinct from global warming lol

yeah the ruling class unimpeded will survive easily



the ruling classes will actually be the hardest hit by climate change, as the West falls to third world conditions and packs of roving cannibals hunt down and flay anyone with uncalloused hands. Third worlders will see slight improvements as US foreign aid and military production dries up, leaving their local warlords unfunded and vulnerable to insurrection, and the billions living in coastal regions will simply drown and spend the rest of eternity in the Heavenly palaces their lives of humble poverty have reserved for them

#98

tpaine posted:

the sad fact is that most of us here are superior to the vast majority of the human race lol



This is a mournful discovery.

1)Those who agree with you are insane
2)Those who do not agree with you are in power.

#99
i think most political and societal problems are basically communication problems, which is a nice way of saying people are too dumb to understand anything outside of their own framework of reality or(/and) language, so it's up to you to translate meanings from your conceptual meaningspace into theirs. and if you can't do it conventionally than you can shove something into their heads that will accomplish the same translation subliminally via ads and bullshit. so if you want to Effect Change just keep shoving ideas into people's minds however you can, over and over, more and more. and if it sounds like too much work then embrace nihilism. I've been thinking about getting fat. eating owns, I'm going to die anyway. Or maybe I can just get bald and do a lot of amphetamines and get an nyt gig.
#100

drwhat posted:

I've been thinking about getting fat. eating owns, I'm going to die anyway. Or maybe I can just get bald

not recommended

#101
all those times i peed in the ocean i was actually hurting it
#102

tpaine posted:

the sad fact is that most of us here are superior to the vast majority of the human race lol



just because you are well-read and were fortunate enough to receive a somewhat effective education does not make you superior to the people who are not and did not. also, most people dont get deeply involved in political theory, history, and politics because theyre too busy providing for themselves and involving themselves in family, friends, and community. finally, even if your subjective estimation of your own intelligence relative to others is in fact tethered to some semblance of truth, "being intelligent" does not make you superior, and, hell, neither does being a socialist.

your values and "value" are mostly determined by outside forces, particularly in your youth. your introvert/introspective personality (which, in part, probably led to your (over-) educated status) does not make you superior; by many measures, it makes you inferior.

until next year,

#103

Superabound posted:

the ruling classes will actually be the hardest hit by climate change, as the West falls to third world conditions and packs of roving cannibals hunt down and flay anyone with uncalloused hands. Third worlders will see slight improvements as US foreign aid and military production dries up, leaving their local warlords unfunded and vulnerable to insurrection, and the billions living in coastal regions will simply drown and spend the rest of eternity in the Heavenly palaces their lives of humble poverty have reserved for them


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most of my peers are intelligent, well-meaning people, at worst "socially liberal" libertarians. i also interact with various people from all strata of society, including a lot of union members who happen to be truck drivers or factory workers or laborers, and i generally find most people to be reasonable, especially if one takes into account the context of their lives. most of them probably contribute more of material value to society than i do.

we're all products of our environment, dontchu know. hate the game (capitalism OR broken education system OR fuckn FLORIDA) not the player (the working class OR people generally OR )!!!
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#110
hey get fiscal does your voice irl sound like an npr host like ira glass
#111

Gibbonstrength posted:

hey get fiscal does your voice irl sound like an npr host like ira glass

https://vine.co/v/Oq76QgILKJU

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#115

tpaine posted:

VoxNihili posted:

tpaine posted:

the sad fact is that most of us here are superior to the vast majority of the human race lol

just because you are well-read and were fortunate enough to receive a somewhat effective education does not make you superior to the people who are not and did not. also, most people dont get deeply involved in political theory, history, and politics because theyre too busy providing for themselves and involving themselves in family, friends, and community. finally, even if your subjective estimation of your own intelligence relative to others is in fact tethered to some semblance of truth, "being intelligent" does not make you superior, and, hell, neither does being a socialist.

your values and "value" are mostly determined by outside forces, particularly in your youth. your introvert/introspective personality (which, in part, probably led to your (over-) educated status) does not make you superior; by many measures, it makes you inferior.

until next year,

i'm just too busy not to be a hateful self-destroying bigot. maybe blacks are people too, though? hmm, this deserves some consid--aw fuck, my 4th baby is crying. another time then, basic concepts!



lol

#116

roseweird posted:

maybe im crazy but i think truck drivers contribute materially via the distribution of material resources



dont troll.

#117
in darwinian sense, the barely sapient apes surrounding us are far fitter. they breed more, for one thing. they also don't waste a lot of time thinking about whether the things they do are "wrong," or letting their position atop the throne of bones make them have depression. if they have opinions they are opinions with maximum really-existing social benefits: support for country, religion, military, sports, and family. tribalism is a primitive instinct that keeps the species alive as much as hunger. they are the survivors. you and your thoughts of alternatives and your agonizing over good and evil are an inefficient use of glucose.

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#118
le idiocracy face
#119
"failure!" saith the teacher. "all is failure!"
#120
as a public defender, i interact daily with some of the most ignorant, self-centered, short-sighted, immoral people you can imagine, and those are just the prosecutors.

i have to explain legal concepts like reasonable doubt, custodial interrogation, and hearsay to people who often haven't made it past the 10th grade. they are wife beaters, drunk drivers, and shoplifters, rapists, burglars, and animal abusers - and yes, some of them are Troops or veterans. most of them are on some form of disability or other social assistance and for a lot of them its undeserved. basically, most people's idea of poster children for why the human race is fucked

somehow i manage to drum up compassion for all of them, shocking as it may seem. why? i spent a lot of time and effort coming up with my own reasons, no way im sharing them with you for free