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read Maximilian Forte
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Kurdt
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the US should be opposed in every respect at every opportunity
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Just called my grandpa and gave him a rundown of your basic points. He's not too impressed...
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have you found a way to incorporate anti-imperialism into your labor organizing of first world workers? (serious question)

to clarify: it's okay if you haven't. i personally think giving the first world underclass a bigger part of the imperialist pie is a lesser evil that's worth pursuing.
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it's frustrating because the most exploitative forms of imperialism are also the most entrenched within the global system. you're not only fighting the US ruling class and labor aristocracy, but against the ruling classes and budding upper-middle classes within the developing world as well.

plus the biggest counter-hegemonic blocs such as Russia and China have endorsed liberal capitalism to a large degree. if US imperialism fades how can we assure that global socialism will take its place?
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discipline posted:

for a while my life was standing at a checkpoint watching some israeli girl shove around a grandma at the point of a galil and mmy eyes darting nervously everywhere and on every single thing that made up that checkpoint was literally MADE IN THE USA



Actually the Galil is manufactured in Ramat HaSharon using designs stolen from Mikhail Kalashnikov by way of the Finns. The 5.56×45mm NATO ammo itself was designed by and probably manufactured in the US though

Fun Fact: an IMI Galil variant (the R4) was adopted by the SADF in 1980, officially making it the most apartheidingest gun of all time

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death to finland
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Not Your S.H.I.E.L.D.
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btw discipline did you ever come up with that full accounting of The Untied $nakes of Amerikkka's death toll? Every time people bring up the DT's of Stalin and Mao i tell them that if you judged the US by the same metrics youd come up with a number probably 2-3 times higher than theirs but it seems like this area of investigation has been completely hellbanned from the American psyche and without any central repository of hard facts to back me up i usually have to resort to intimidation and bulllying to get my point across
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don't really care any longer. i'm off to join the lumpen, best of luck to you all
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dusz2 posted:

don't really care any longer. i'm off to join the lumpen, best of luck to you all


good luck to you to. i'm going to try to get a job!

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Superabound posted:

btw discipline did you ever come up with that full accounting of The Untied $nakes of Amerikkka's death toll? Every time people bring up the DT's of Stalin and Mao i tell them that if you judged the US by the same metrics youd come up with a number probably 2-3 times higher than theirs but it seems like this area of investigation has been completely hellbanned from the American psyche and without any central repository of hard facts to back me up i usually have to resort to intimidation and bulllying to get my point across


are you trying to tell me that the US is responsible for EVERY death that happened during the vietnam war? That's biased, pass the Economist, please.

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chantal mouffe (pbuh) has been arguing recently that left parties need to come to terms with the idea that sustainability must include reductions in overall consumption in the developed world to afford for access to goods by the worst off in the world... should... should i email her a bunch of MSH tracts???
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the great purge seemed pretty evil
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i wouldn't know, wasn't there
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Superabound posted:

btw discipline did you ever come up with that full accounting of The Untied $nakes of Amerikkka's death toll? Every time people bring up the DT's of Stalin and Mao i tell them that if you judged the US by the same metrics youd come up with a number probably 2-3 times higher than theirs but it seems like this area of investigation has been completely hellbanned from the American psyche and without any central repository of hard facts to back me up i usually have to resort to intimidation and bulllying to get my point across


i too think this would be good to know

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Superabound posted:

btw discipline did you ever come up with that full accounting of The Untied $nakes of Amerikkka's death toll? Every time people bring up the DT's of Stalin and Mao i tell them that if you judged the US by the same metrics youd come up with a number probably 2-3 times higher than theirs but it seems like this area of investigation has been completely hellbanned from the American psyche and without any central repository of hard facts to back me up i usually have to resort to intimidation and bulllying to get my point across



I forget where, but I read about a study once that examined the death toll (soldiers + civilians, I think) caused by all US wars and occupations from Korea on, and the number they came up with was roughly 6,000,000. Which, of course, is a number you might recognize from another context.

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death at the hands of american imperialism is akin to being raptured?
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KilledInADuel posted:

I forget where, but I read about a study once that examined the death toll (soldiers + civilians, I think) caused by all US wars and occupations from Korea on, and the number they came up with was roughly 6,000,000. Which, of course, is a number you might recognize from another context.



6,000,000 is definitely A Good Start but im also going to need deaths from things like starvation, disease, civilian murders etc., ie. all the good stuff we love to attribute directly to Mao and Stalin's bare hands

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Superabound posted:

KilledInADuel posted:

I forget where, but I read about a study once that examined the death toll (soldiers + civilians, I think) caused by all US wars and occupations from Korea on, and the number they came up with was roughly 6,000,000. Which, of course, is a number you might recognize from another context.

6,000,000 is definitely A Good Start but im also going to need deaths from things like starvation, disease, civilian murders etc., ie. all the good stuff we love to attribute directly to Mao and Stalin's bare hands



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qabKZlXCXeU

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fleights posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qabKZlXCXeU



dude speaks exactrly like a non-badas version of Jesse Ventura

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I don't support the U.S. forcing people to do anything.

The U.S. is a bully and a clown and needs a time out.
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I didn't know there were communists that weren't anti-imperialist.

Why would you take that ideological stance. Is your intent to look stupid in front of people? There are much less boring ways to do that.
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tsinava posted:

I didn't know there were communists that weren't anti-imperialist.




1. freedom and standards of living are the intrinsically good things in life which should be available to the vast majority of humanity
2. all people are equally deserving of freedom and good standards of living, regardless of gender, race, religion, age, or position within the space-time continuum
3. the living standards of the west are built upon economic imperialism and maintained through force of arms
4. liberalism is unable to resolve #3 because the capitalist class has disproportionate influence in society
5. to achieve #1 we must destroy the capitalist class and to prevent its resurgence we must destroy liberalism ("communism")
6. communism can only be achieved by a marxist-leninist vanguard party
7. marxist-leninist vanguard parties require a class-conscious proletariat situated in the vital core of the capitalist world
8. the aryan race happens to be situated in the core of the capitalist world
9. since liberalism is much more powerful in the west than marxism-leninism at this point, aryan communists cannot achieve power while explicitly endorsing the overthrow of the native capitalist class
10. therefore aryan communists must support their own capitalist class while invading and conquering other nations in order to build a Greater Bolshevik Reich

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nazism_and_Stalinism
another A+ wikipedia article, good job, highly recommended reading
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i have way too much fun looking at the sources and talk pages on wikipedia about any article that has to do with communist crimes. always inundated with a couple editors, usually eastern european kids that are anti-communist or just some american libertarian, that wrote the majority of the article, cherry pick from the same one or two sources from an anti-communist historian/propagandist with a flawed methodology, and then sit on the page reverting any dispute. then they get in an argument with some college kid on the talk page who goes wait a second this is all POV with disreputable sources and they debate about the merit of scholarly research for the rest of the time. lots of fun.

i mean the war crimes section for the vietnam war is pretty hilarious too. the american section has sources from senate hearings and investigations after the fact that dragged out all the dirty laundry decades after the war was over; and the viet-cong section on the other hand is all sourced from american propaganda during the war, like a 1960s reader's digest article about how they "slashed open the wombs of pregnant women, machine gunned children, hacked men and women to pieces with machetes, and cut off the fingers of small children who dared to get an education" <Hubbel, John G. (November 1968). "The Blood-Red Hands of Ho Chi Minh". Readers Digest: 61–67.>
which of course is what the american soldiers were actually doing at the time.

i love it. please donate to wikipedia to keep that train rolling along.
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"Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, and Fascist Italy were all highly concerned over low fertility rates"

'stangin hard right now
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let me be clear that i will never actually do anything constructive to fix it. there's a reason i became a communist, and that reason also likely has something to do with why wikipedia is dominated by libertarians and liberals rather than socialists
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your imperialism is anti-communist or it will be bullshit!
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e: posted some desaparacidos lyrics and immediately edited it out of concern that it would be misinterpreted and i think it was! maybe it was something completely unrelated, idk.

fuck my life basically is what i'm saying

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discipline posted:

now I'm not one to agree with structural adjustment or foreign aid to clean up after wars we wrought but the mentality behind "fuck those browns we destroyed, where's our share of the imperial pie?????" is ridiculous and disgusting



wrong, this is the essence of what it means to live. our enemies have been driven before us but we see no spoils. the visigoths had a firmer grasp of justice.