#41
probably an afl-cio affiliated one
#42

getfiscal posted:

SariBari posted:

serious question, do you know any of the hundreds of workers who have gotten involved in the Fast Food strikes?

which union are they with



it's an SEIU gig

#43
gf and ilmdge: even though it's vice here is a surprisingly good article on it
http://www.vice.com/read/fast-food-workers-fight-for-15hr

i know 3 workers from the campaign just as acquaintances and the person who runs the national campaign, very well. the article is right, it's not a typical strike with the typical goal, it's about raising awareness about who does this work and how shittily they are treated. i liked what swampman wrote re: McD's awhile ago in that ultimately, these places shouldn't exist but in the meantime their ruthless overlords should suffer as much as possible through press and financially (as D says). also the student visa abuse is a very serious and actual good work can be done on that right now. my city along with others are also finding success with wage theft ordinances in rtw states. we may not be able to organize as easily here but the unions are finding other avenues
#44
"awareness" and media scrutiny only work for the people whose side the media is on. which isnt you
#45
"cant wait for these media guys to really drag some of their largest sponsors through all these coals ive warmed up for them!"
#46
union's are reformist and were marxist here...
#47
if you really wanted to damage McDonalds public reputation, instead of engaging in a campaign of quixotic strikes that will burden the individual workers a million times more than they ever will the corporation itself, wouldnt it be infinitely more effective to just get a bunch of them to simultaneously infect all the meat with E. coli? like that one dude posting a picture of himself licking a stack of taco shells probably hurt Taco Bells bottom line more than anything in the past 30 years of wage reform or the fact that their entire menu is made from sand and dog food
#48
if 100s of fry cooks posted videos on liveleak of themselves urinating in the french fry batter would it be considered an act of terrorism?
#49
all effective direct political action is officially terrorism now
#50

Superabound posted:

"cant wait for these media guys to really drag some of their largest sponsors through all these coals ive warmed up for them!"



I guess since you said it on the internet that makes it so. Let's commence to scrubbing all network, affiliate, cable, online, and print coverage of these actions since last Dec. If our son of Jackson doesn't know about it, it ain't shit! Btw, could you also fill me in on the acceptable amount of time this now nationwide campaign which first started in NY with 10 stores, has to operate? How long do they have to impress you/ activate more workers? When is time up for fast food workers to make their points in a public way? Sarcasm and sabotage aside, what is your actual point or idea? How should low wage workers be organizing in your opinion? What is the best model for organizing to demand a living wage that you've used in the past?

#51

tpaine posted:

easily 90% of people are too ignorant to ever be reached by any kind of reasoned argument



This is a really good point, and something that you are uniquely qualified to take advantage of.

Convince them with silly jokes, borat + sienfeld, and emoticons.
I'm serious.

#52
itt new yorkers unveil the benefits of obscure organizations known as "unions"
#53

Superabound posted:

all effective direct political action is officially terrorism now



Against this hegemony of the system, one can exalt the ruses of desire, practice revolutionary micrology of the quotidian, exalt the molecular drift or even defend cooking. This does not resolve the imperious necessity of checking the system in broad daylight.

This, only terrorism can do.

#54

discipline posted:

I'm sorry if your union is being shitty with kickbacks but rest assured as rank-and-file you can kick up a big stink about it. do organizers or enforcers come around? the best position to radicalize/pressure a union is as a rank and file member. if you seriously want more info we should talk

this but the democratic party instead

#55

SariBari posted:

gf and ilmdge: even though it's vice here is a surprisingly good article on it
http://www.vice.com/read/fast-food-workers-fight-for-15hr



Before long, a PR worker subcontracted by FFF for the day (to “put the workers in touch with the press,” as he put it) interrupted Franklin and me, wanting to know who I was. “You’re from VICE?” he exclaimed. “That’s awesome. Hold on, let me find you someone from the Williamsburg McDonalds!”

haha that's a real quote

#56
overall though yeah it's cool when workers do stuff
#57

SariBari posted:

I guess since you said it on the internet that makes it so. Let's commence to scrubbing all network, affiliate, cable, online, and print coverage of these actions since last Dec. If our son of Jackson doesn't know about it, it ain't shit! Btw, could you also fill me in on the acceptable amount of time this now nationwide campaign which first started in NY with 10 stores, has to operate? How long do they have to impress you/ activate more workers? When is time up for fast food workers to make their points in a public way? Sarcasm and sabotage aside, what is your actual point or idea? How should low wage workers be organizing in your opinion? What is the best model for organizing to demand a living wage that you've used in the past?



vote Democrat

#58

SariBari posted:

What is the best model for organizing to demand a living wage that you've used in the past?

asking my parents and banks for money has worked so far

#59
#60

Superabound posted:

SariBari posted:

I guess since you said it on the internet that makes it so. Let's commence to scrubbing all network, affiliate, cable, online, and print coverage of these actions since last Dec. If our son of Jackson doesn't know about it, it ain't shit! Btw, could you also fill me in on the acceptable amount of time this now nationwide campaign which first started in NY with 10 stores, has to operate? How long do they have to impress you/ activate more workers? When is time up for fast food workers to make their points in a public way? Sarcasm and sabotage aside, what is your actual point or idea? How should low wage workers be organizing in your opinion? What is the best model for organizing to demand a living wage that you've used in the past?

vote Democrat

“Fuck the Democrats!” John, a retired letter carrier, union member, and general eccentric who came out to support the fast food workers, had told me earlier in Union Square. “I respect the Republicans more, they just come out and say, ‘We hate the working class!’”

John is cool

#61

getfiscal posted:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/514d6103d7003c67845875f9b8c6e5c0/tumblr_mr2w0fCM1N1rj5f9oo1_500.png



this, but on my tombstone. and soon!

#62

Superabound posted:

vote Democrat



Good luck with all your organizing!

#63

SariBari posted:

Good luck with all your organizing!



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#66
Gotta go with what you know. Cat memes probably have more effect on college students than the great leftist pedagogy.
gbs is still using your mother 3 gifs
#67
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#68
Kurt Metzger
What I can't understand is how every employee at every McDonalds hasn't gone on strike already. What have you got to lose? Your job at McDonalds?
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#70

discipline posted:

I said "we should talk" because I don't know your specific situation, the union you're speaking about, what you do for a living etc


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#71

ilmdge posted:

overall though yeah it's cool when workers do stuff

i hate it when someone does something

#72
don't do a thing


don't
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#74

babyfinland posted:

Kurt Metzger
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Who's this Kurt Metzger guy?

#75

MadMedico posted:

babyfinland posted:

Kurt Metzger
What I can't understand is how every employee at every McDonalds hasn't gone on strike already. What have you got to lose? Your job at McDonalds?
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hes a comedian i like

#76

babyfinland posted:

MadMedico posted:

babyfinland posted:

Kurt Metzger
What I can't understand is how every employee at every McDonalds hasn't gone on strike already. What have you got to lose? Your job at McDonalds?
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Who's this Kurt Metzger guy?



hes a comedian i like



When I was young, when I started watching stand-up, when I was 11 or 12, there was “Evening at the Improv” and “Comic Strip Live…” on TV And my absolute favorite was Amazing Jonathan. I was so happy when Amazing Jonathan would come on. I still like Amazing Jonathan, it’s just the same fucking act from when I was 12. That was the greatest. I loved Jeff Dunham when I was young, too. I thought that was the best fucking thing I ever saw, that Jalapeno on a stick. And he would go, “On a steeek…” Tears would come to my eyes; it was so great.

#77
Interview: Kurt Metzger talks “trust fund pussy” comedians,
#78
haha The Amazing Jonathan. i remember that guy
#79
#80

Superabound posted:

haha The Amazing Jonathan. i remember that guy



i like when he stabbed his squeaky-voiced female assistant in the head with a pair of scissors because the cornerstone of all comedy is violence against women