#41
Let me explain, in a single post, the reason why I detest leftism, both the political ideology and the 1995 Leftfield album.

It's not that leftists don't have an argument. They do. It's that the policies leftists support have little do with their stated goals like eliminating poverty and much more to do with their actual reasons for being a leftist- envy and buttmad.

The Spirit Level (some book written by someone a while ago) is a good example. It beats around the bush presenting lots of minor benefits of social equality; they're nice taken together, but no single one of them is important enough to be taken seriously as an argument for liberalism.

The author is too embarrassed to ever touch upon the fundamental reason behind why equality does all those things- because it alleviates the buttmad of the lower classes.


#42
Libertarianism is cool bc its a lot like Trotskyism: nobody actually knows what it is, so anyone can be it
#43
Non-ancap libertarianism is incredibly simple and direct. Trottery is evasive cherrypicking and impossible to argue with.

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#44


^^ Watch, SariBari or ilmidge will try to respond to it.
#45
One of the most striking lessons I've learned from trolling various forums is that the conservative forums are more likely to discuss with me and address my points, while leftists are ferociously opposed to the concept of debate.
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Lucille posted:

^^ Watch, SariBari or ilmidge will try to respond to it.



that one on the far right looks pretty good

#48
libertarian strategies to become relevant:
have disillusioned people of the new left generation come into money and high paying careers---->bitch and whine about not being able to form a popular libertarian party in the 80s----->do nothing for 20 years except some magazines and rand tributes---->ron paul?
#49
----> it's happening
#50
call yourself a Neo Libertarian--->read directly from Das Kapital
#51
Hitler wasn't an expression of left or right, he was an expression of fragile humanity.
#52
hitler was an idiot who had the best brain trust in history
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#54

Occurrences of elephants behaving this way around human beings are common throughout Africa. On many occasions, they have buried dead or sleeping humans or aided them when they were hurt. Meredith also recalls an event told to him by George Adamson, a Kenyan Game Warden, regarding an old Turkana woman who fell asleep under a tree after losing her way home. When she woke up, there was an elephant standing over her, gently touching her. She kept very still because she was very frightened. As other elephants arrived, they began to scream loudly and buried her under branches. She was found the next morning by the local herdsmen, unharmed.
George Adamson also recalls when he shot a bull elephant from a herd that kept breaking into the government gardens of Northern Kenya. George gave the elephant's meat to local Turkana tribesmen and then dragged the rest of the carcass half a mile away. That night, the other elephants found the body and took the shoulder blade and leg bone and returned the bones to the exact spot the elephant was killed. Scientists often debate the extent that elephants feel emotion.



Like several other species that are able to produce abstract art, elephants using their trunks to hold brushes create paintings which some have compared to the work of abstract expressionists, Elephant art is now commonly featured at zoos, and is shown in museums and galleries around the world. Ruby at the Phoenix Zoo is considered the original elephant art star, and her paintings have sold for as much as $25,000. Ruby chose her own colors and "had a very keen sense of what color, in what sequence, she wanted." The Asian Elephant Art & Conservation Project, an "elephant art academy" in New York, teaches retired elephants to paint. For paintings that resemble identifiable objects, teachers give the elephants guidance. An example of this was shown in the TV program Extraordinary Animals, in which elephants at a camp in Thailand were able to draw self-portraits with flowers. Although the images were drawn by the elephants, there was always a trainer assisting and guiding the movement.
A popular video showing an elephant painting a picture of another elephant became widespread on internet news and video websites. The website snopes.com, which specializes in debunking urban legends, lists the video as "true", in that the elephant produced the brush strokes, but notes that the similarity of the produced paintings is indicative of a learned sequence of strokes rather than a creative effort on the part of the elephant.
It was noted by ancient Romans and Asian elephant handlers (mahouts) that elephants can distinguish melodies. Performing circus elephants commonly follow musical cues and Adam Forepaugh and Barnum & Bailey circuses even featured "elephant bands". German evolutionary biologist Bernard Rensch studied an elephant's ability to distinguish music, and in 1957 published the results in Scientific American. Rensch's test elephant could distinguish 12 tones in the music scale and could remember simple melodies. Even though played on varying instruments and at different pitches, timbres and meters, she recognized the tones a year and a half later. These results have been backed up by the Human-Elephant Learning Project which studies elephant intelligence.
An elephant named Shanthi at the National Zoo in Washington D.C. has displayed the ability to play the harmonica and various horn instruments. She reportedly always ends her songs with a crescendo.
Recording artists, Thai Elephant Orchestra, is an ensemble of elephants which "improvises" music on specially made instruments with minimal interaction from their handlers. The orchestra was co-founded by pachyderm expert Richard Lair, who works at the Thai Elephant Conservation Center in Lampang, and David Sulzer (artist name, Dave Soldier) who studies the role of dopaminergic synapses in memory consolidation, learning, and behavior at Columbia University. According to neurobiologist Aniruddh Patel, the orchestra's star drummer named Pratidah, exhibits musicality, stating: "Either when drumming alone or with the orchestra, Pratidah was remarkably steady,". He also noted that she developed a swing-type rhythm pattern when playing with other elephants.



A study by Dr. Naoko Irie of Tokyo University has shown that elephants demonstrate skills at arithmetic. The experiment "consist of dropping varying numbers of apples into two buckets in front of the elephants and then recording how often they could correctly choose the bucket holding the most fruit." When more than one apple was being dropped into the bucket, this meant that the elephants had to "keep running totals in their heads to keep track of the count." The results showed that "Seventy-four percent of the time, the animals correctly picked the fullest bucket. An African elephant named Ashya scored the highest with an amazing eighty-seven percent … Humans in this same contest managed a success rate of just sixty-seven percent." The study was also filmed to ensure its accuracy.



Asian Elephants have joined a small group of animals, including great apes, bottlenose dolphins and magpies, that exhibit self-awareness. The study was conducted with the Wildlife Conservation Society (WCS) using elephants at the Bronx Zoo in New York. Although many animals will respond to a mirror, very few show any evidence that they recognize it is in fact themselves in the mirror reflection.
The Asian elephants in the study also displayed this type of behavior when standing in front of a 2.5 m-by-2.5 m mirror - they inspected the rear and brought food close to the mirror for consumption.
Evidence of elephant self awareness was shown when the elephant Happy repeatedly touched a painted X on her head with her trunk, a mark which could only be seen in the mirror. Happy ignored another mark made with colorless paint that was also on her forehead to ensure she was not merely reacting to a smell or feeling.
Frans De Waal, who ran the study, stated, "These parallels between humans and elephants suggest a convergent cognitive evolution possibly related to complex society and cooperation."
Joyce Poole, of the Amboseli Elephant Research Project, Kenya, has demonstrated vocal learning and imitation in elephants of sounds made by each other and in the environment. She is beginning to research whether sounds made by elephants have dialects, a trait that is rare in the animal kingdom.
#55
Meanwhile, in the Saudi Arabia of elephant street violence...
#56

communism thread posted:

was it bureaucracy that was the cause or is it complicated to implement something like this? from my ignorant position i'm assuming the theoretics would be rather simple but the implementation might be tricky due to political realities



The USSR didn't collapse because of implementation or whatever, it collapsed because there was no incentive to work and it's impossible to manage an organization of that size.

#57
it's not a lack of an incentive to work you luddite. even ayn rand was smart enough to point out that the soviet model didn't provide the (albeit false) formal freedom of purchase/exchange and instead relied on a byzantine network of guarantees akin to feudalism.
#58

t's not a lack of an incentive to work you luddite. even ayn rand was smart enough to point out that the soviet model didn't provide the (albeit false) formal freedom of purchase/exchange and instead relied on a byzantine network of guarantees akin to feudalism.



That's correct, and it's part of the lack of incentives.

I'm not just making this stuff up, I can cite a flurry of evidence as always to support any of my points based on people who actually worked in the USSR.

In a bureaucracy with hundreds of thousands of people it's impossible to keep track of what people under you are doing and make sure they're doing their job and not screwing off.

#59

Lucille posted:

The USSR didn't collapse because of implementation or whatever, it collapsed because there was no incentive to work and it's impossible to manage an organization of that size.



actually it was due to overmilitariazation, economic expatriation, fighting phantoms, and oh yeah, the single largest multi-decade campaign of foreign sabotage the world has ever seen

#60
no nation has ever fallen apart due to "goldbricking proles". even under modern capitalism the vast majority of workers create nothing of worth or necessity.
#61
you could probably pay 70% of Americans minimum wage to stay home and out of the way and watch overall workplace efficiency skyrocket as the handful of people who actually know what the fuck theyre doing get more done because they no longer have to waste time fixing everyone elses messes and problems
#62
I challenge you to talk about economics for four hours.

#63

Lucille posted:

I challenge you to talk about economics for four hours.



hmm...might be difficult but if you give me a couple of days notice to edit things down to the essentials i could probably manage to keep it under 4

#64
You should still watch it, it details how liberalism is killing itself.
#65
How long can you talk about theology

#66
Haha yeah that's really funny. Anyway socialism is poison, it corrupts everything in its orbit, moral, social and economical.
#67
youre correct that Socialism is poison, in the sense that it is the only hope the scourge known as Humanity has for survival
#68
prohairesis

http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/
#69
Its amazing that I'm still getting banned from /pol/ for something that happened three years ago.

Does OmegaBR even remember why he banned me, or is it just a habit for him?
#70
The idea that "science is for faggots" is something developed post-WWII by the Jew media to sell products and destroy western civilization.

Before the 1950s science was valued and intelligent and scholarly people were honored. It wasn't until the semitic media developed "cool" and "hip" marketing strategies that being intelligent and productive marked one as a "nerd". Respect for science and mathematics deteriorated after the 1960s Hippie movement, sponsored by Jew media companies, Jew record companies, and Negro drug dealers, and we are left with a negrified, Judeified culture which values debauchery over discovery of scientific knowledge.
#71
you know, its always the same. You people come in with your slurs, your baseless accusations, your hardcore anti-semitism, and im all like "yes, yes, i hear ya, 100% correct and accurate on all counts", and just when things start really getting good, im really sensing a nice rapport and personal connection building up, BAM, here comes the anti-black racism. like an expertly folded and precisely creased paper airplane suddenly taking a nosedive towards the ground, and directly into the hands of the nefarious International Jew

PULL UP MUSTANG, PULL UP
#72
Sorry, I'll try to respect my fellow anti-semites in the African American community more.
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#74

Lucille posted:

Sorry, I'll try to respect my fellow anti-semites in the African American community more.



#75
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t983595/

MSNBS jew says Detroit is now "most libertarian city"
#76
#77

Lucille posted:

One of the most striking lessons I've learned from trolling various forums is that the conservative forums are more likely to discuss with me and address my points, while leftists are ferociously opposed to the concept of debate.


perhaps conservatives simply lack the awareness to recognise you as a troll

#78

perhaps conservatives simply lack the awareness to recognise you as a troll



I'm a pretty bad troll tbf, I get noticed before I even start.

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