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which one is more likely to end world poverty?
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dm posted:
which one is more likely to end world poverty?



hahaha aGreed. If the people don't have a Peoples Army, they have nothing

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you implied yourself that bifurcating the two is a fairly pointless exercise (or maybe thats the point)
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Groulxsmith posted:
you implied yourself that bifurcating the two is a fairly pointless exercise (or maybe thats the point)



but see it actually isnt, theres definitely differences here and contradictions that are exploitable. their complicity is the subsumation of industrial capital under finance capital, a relation of Ur-Capital perhaps, but theres a gap between the two...

and how would revolutionary movements be armed? if you take the proletarian as subject of history, finance and weapons manufacturing clearly separate

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Crow posted:

Groulxsmith posted:
you implied yourself that bifurcating the two is a fairly pointless exercise (or maybe thats the point)

but see it actually isnt, theres definitely differences here and contradictions that are exploitable. their complicity is the subsumation of industrial capital under finance capital, a relation of Ur-Capital perhaps, but theres a gap between the two...

and how would revolutionary movements be armed? if you take the proletarian as subject of history, finance and weapons manufacturing clearly separate


is the contemporary defense industry all that similar to industrial capital though? even before considering the interdependencies, i feel that designing advanced weapons systems, private military companies, consultancy, etc. isn't terribly different from finance capital in its emphasis on intellect

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would you rather have a drink with a quant or with grover
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finance is better because it is developing the mathematical tools that will be used to optimize a planned economy.
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the arms industry is better because stalin had an arms industry
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discipline posted:

Groulxsmith posted:
is the contemporary defense industry all that similar to industrial capital though? even before considering the interdependencies, i feel that designing advanced weapons systems, private military companies, consultancy, etc. isn't terribly different from finance capital in its emphasis on intellect

The biggest difference between finance/arms industry is that one is proudly subsidized by the state while the other takes public money, eats and shits it out into sovereign debt, and then complains about there being too much Big Government regulation


but which one is which xD

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The arms industry is better because you can ask people about if they want tickets to it and flex when you do it and it works as a pickup line
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romney just needs to give that greed is good speech to alleviate the bain controversy & win the election in a landslide lmao
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getfiscal posted:
finance is better because it is developing the mathematical tools that will be used to optimize a planned economy.



But arms industry does it too. Arms industry is better because you can sell arms to third world client militaries that are heavily infiltrated by rebel groups, and are on the eve of seizing power, therefore arming the new revolutionary state.

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the real reason i support finance is because i'm an economist and i don't want to be marked for execution like with the khmer rouge and people with glasses
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dont worry you'll probably like starve to death or something first
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Witch im doing right Nao!!!!
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i'm eating a panzerotti and am fat
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Interesting question but it's almost as if it doesn't matter; the real enemy, the real conquistador of the human soul is science itself
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Interesting question but it's almost as if it doesn't matter; the real enemy, the real conquistador of the human soul is science itself


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i'm bringing back empty quoting bc that post was So Correct.
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yeah man is at war with himself, so what, good.
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not true Science opens us up to our full range of expressive possibility i.e. genital reassignment surgeries
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Interesting question but it's almost as if it doesn't matter; the real enemy, the real conquistador of the human soul is science itself

*salutes your shorts*

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Basically everything bad that happens can be traced back to science, it transcends political ideologies or bloody tyrants

Hitler couldn't have done shit to anyone if he only had a stick
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seth macfarlane is going to make a reboot of cosmos
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DDUuuUUHh
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I love how supposed 'anti-liberals' will fall back to defend science and be like NO ITS NOT SUBJECTIVE SCIENCE IS OBJECTIVELY GOOD HURRR I SEE NO CONFLICT BETWEEN ME THINKING THIS AND THE REST OF MY IDEOLOGY
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Crow posted:
yeah man is at war with himself, so what, good.



Contradictions have always existed in the soul of [individuals]. But it is only when we prefer analysis to silence that they become a constant and insoluble problem. We are not meant to resolve all contradictions but to live with them and rise above them and see them in the light of exterior and objective values which make them trivial by comparison.

Thomas Merton

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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:
I love how supposed 'anti-liberals' will fall back to defend science and be like NO ITS NOT SUBJECTIVE SCIENCE IS OBJECTIVELY GOOD HURRR I SEE NO CONFLICT BETWEEN ME THINKING THIS AND THE REST OF MY IDEOLOGY



how can something subjective be objective? Looks like this little fucker needs to be moved back to austin this saturday/

babyfinland posted:
Contradictions have always existed in the soul of . But it is only when we prefer analysis to silence that they become a constant and insoluble problem. We are not meant to resolve all contradictions but to live with them and rise above them and see them in the light of exterior and objective values which make them trivial by comparison.

Thomas Merton


Believe.

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any pursuit of Truth is good, you retards (hateful language geared at mentally DISabled)
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Crow posted:
how can something subjective be objective? Looks like this little fucker needs to be moved back to austin this saturday/



check your privilege man i owe to much to the company store to just move around but a CIS like you wouldnt understand that...

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Elimination of all natural sciences. If anybody ought to go to the extermination chambers definitely scientists, yes I’m definitely anti-scientist because I feel that science represents a conspiracy to impose as, the real and only universe, the Universe of scientists themselves - they’re reality-addicts, they’ve got to have things so real so they can get their hands on it.
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So many science worshipping liberal friends of mine scoffed at that insane clown posse video and yet when I asked them to explain how magnets work they couldn’t tell me.

I still haven’t heard a proper explanation of how they do