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am I right that most of the US doesn't care about this or is it just that I live in a leftist bubble
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most everybody i know cheered it or presented it as a good thing. i argued with probably 5-6 people thorugh the day before i said fuck it
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yes, though at this point, what can really be done? like should we sit around and acknowledge gaddafi was a good man? good man or bad, he never integrated into the system of imperial warmaking and was killed as a consequence. he serves as an example for the nationalists inhabiting the margin of the future: integrate or die. everybody in the world will kneel. i'm not sure how that makes me feel
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We celebrated it in the office.
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i care. i care about gaddafi
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I dont think being nonchalant about a gory shock photo constitutes being immune emotion and its not like living in the postmodern first world and acting accordingly was anyones "rational choice". For what its worth I share the sentiment about it though.

Edit: a shock photo of a totally otherized human being
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the difference between literally affixing gaddafi's head to a pike and merely doing it figuratively is so abstract that it becomes easy to discern the thin layer of ice that separates the theater which America calls a society from the ocean of depravity beneath it.

people tend to think that this depravity is something which has forever existed inside of humans and which our society nobly contains. which is obviously bullshit. anyone would naturally be horrified by these images and their context. likewise, they would naturally be saddened to see something beautiful destroyed by violence. there is nothing natural about celebrating something like this. man will naturally celebrate things that are beautiful: births, bounties, love ect. no natural people revel in death as we do. we live in a godless amoral society that occludes and disfigures everything natural and beautiful about the human soul .

our society is simply a profane dream given form. its something that never should have existed.
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lol @ wddps/etc who cheered this
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lungfish posted:
We celebrated it in the office.

your a jerk

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gyrofry posted:
lol @ wddps/etc who cheered this



sorry pal gaddafi was an ASSHOLE hahahahahahaha

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I actually hadn't seen the photo in the OP until this thread, so I guess America is actually more sensitive about gory photos than Brits are (which is interesting). The Brits were writing snarky things; Reuters said that he was found cowering in a drainage pipe full of rubbish and filth. Americans have always favored journalistic objectivity which tends to reduce tabloid-like behavior.

The reason people are happy for his downfall is the same reason you would be happy for the violent killing and display of the heads of the United States and its allies. I've listened to too much hateful rhetoric from LFers to believe that you simply don't have the stomach for a little blood. So let's try to be consistent.

What it comes down to is whether you revere or condemn the man. Most people condemn him as a tyrant, so they celebrate his death. But you reverse the polarities and saw him as one of the people standing up to the inevitable scourge of Western imperialism. Well, most people support Western imperialism, if that's what you want to call getting rid of dictators and terrorists.

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tardy on these heaters
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I don't want to see anybody die actually. Imagine that
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noavbazzer posted:

gyrofry posted:

lol @ wddps/etc who cheered this

sorry pal gaddafi was an ASSHOLE hahahahahahaha



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tpaine posted:
its becoming more and more clear to me as i get older that there's something fundamentally impossible about a species that evolved through an inextricably antagonistic model to become anything really decent, and that there's a line drawn somewhere on the evolution chart where any planet's dominant species develops the capacity to destroy itself but does not yet possess the wisdom to keep from doing it and i can't imagine a scenario where any flesh and blood thing actually passes that line and becomes something greater than the sum of its barbaric asshole parts



if you want to feel a little better just keep in mind that just one or two centuries ago there was effectively nobody on the earth who would find distasteful the prospect of cheering at a bad person's death

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otoh human life has no intrinsic value so if someone believes that gaddhafis death would improve the world then i dont really see the point of getting upset about it
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1488 posted:


Thanks, I learned a lot about the Rothschilds.

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gyrofry posted:
lol @ wddps/etc who cheered this

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Gaddafi's reactionary role in West Africa was fucked up but that's hardly relevant to his lynching by neoliberal-backed reactionary psychos.
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really i dont have any objection to pictures of gaddafi being published, its grotesque perverse & undignified but not morally wrong in any sense
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discipline posted:
geneva convention? fffffffehh... *puts me cigarette out on it!*


exactly. the idea of rules to warfare is possibly one of the funniest things imaginable and is obviously a form of chauvinism, and extremely hypocritical to boot

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discipline posted:

geneva convention? fffffffehh... *puts me cigarette out on it!*

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Mike Nelson here.
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discipline posted:
damn that's a creepy video

if you think that, don't watch the movie "The Antichrist"

it gets worse

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Mike Nelson here.
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Gadhafi's blood-streaked body has been put on display at a shopping centre in Misrata, as Libyan authorities argued about where to bury the remains.

Men, women and children lined up to view the body, which was laid out on a mattress on the floor of an emptied-out vegetable freezer.
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you're always welcome in our buddhist death cult
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gadhafi's bloody corpse has to chillax until the un sends keyboard cat to libya to play him off.
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https://ceinquiry.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/state-dept-gaddafi-lynching/

Edited by HenryKrinkle ()

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deadken posted:
really i dont have any objection to pictures of gaddafi being published, its grotesque perverse & undignified but not morally wrong in any sense

agreed. it's ugly as fuck and tremendously indicative of the state of western culture but i just can't condemn regicide. don't have it in me

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