Merzbow posted:From topic dear cis scum,:
Most people know him for these photos.
Off the Grid
There are growing number of people
who have decided to live light on the earth
to not be a part of problem anymore
I spent the last few years with four of them
striving for harmony with nature
in the most pristine corners of United States.
discipline posted:guys let's start a tumblr featuring white people with dreads
the rhizzone yearbook
tpaine posted:discipline posted:guys let's start a tumblr featuring white people with dreads
this band makes it difficult to remain an atheist.
bozodeathgod 6 months ago +7
ggw posted:and dedicate it to slashie
slashie should come post here imo.
Goethestein posted:
obama 2012 campaign logo
Goethestein posted:It is impossible to read or listen to members of the military talk for anything other than the shortest period of time and still believe that they are salvageable as humans. Of course a statistically irrelevant handful show up at leftist rallies and make a big show of how they're on of the good ones so it's easy to forget
It's weird how the military effectively makes its members right wing for life, especially since the military itself is such a socialist operation. The coupling of inept officers making them believe that all government is inefficient and bad with a really myopic view of events where only the application of murder solves problems creates a strange thing. Of course the military breeds an intense camraderie to get people to fight for their fellow troops rather than a cause or anything bigger, because it's much better for motivating people to do dangerous things. Maybe right wing types are drawn to voluntary military service. It's confusing
Guilt, on the other hand, is called a sham jouissance by Lacan and betrays a flight from anxiety, and thus a flight from Being. There is a play on the French word for shame (honte) and the science of being (ontology) giving us the neologism, hontology. Guilt arises because one has fixed one’s response to the encounter with the object that induces anxiety, in a desperate effort to control the situation. Copjec writes: The fraudulent nature of this jouissance has everything to do with the fact that it gives one a false sense that the core of one’s being is someething knowable, possessable as an identity, a property, a surplus-value attaching to one’s person.”
so these people try to know the unknowable, and try to control these breaks and fissures in the night that cruel institutions visited on them, that have become so deep and horrifying and naked and obvious with every war crime. they cant do it. Shame on them
tpaine posted:It really is all about the Fuhrerprinzip, Myfynmny. It's also why the military is so overtly religious--because giving up your moral agency and following an all-encompassing code for what amounts to convenience is a great way to get what you want in life without worrying about the outcomes your actions have on others or thinking about your place in the system to which you belong, whether that system is an imperialist military, a blood-stained organized criminal syndicate, or a church that routinely covers up child abuse. These organizations share some characteristics with socialism, but those are incidental and don't contribute directly to their abuses, only insofar as it gives weak-willed garbage an excuse not to point out how horrible they are and attracts the impoverished to join the various arms of the same big menace that ironically ensures that they will always stay impoverished. *seizes up*
I guess that linear idea helps make a confusing life sensical. And people will strongly defend things whose logic makes sense to them.
Crow posted:i dont think murderous military outfits build people, they break them and then tape them up haphazardly with guilt which expresses itself in anger, explodes in rage. like look at the PTSD people, its like a manifestation of guilt, they cant possibly face what they did. it isnt shame, its something worse, sham jouissance
Guilt, on the other hand, is called a sham jouissance by Lacan and betrays a flight from anxiety, and thus a flight from Being. There is a play on the French word for shame (honte) and the science of being (ontology) giving us the neologism, hontology. Guilt arises because one has fixed one’s response to the encounter with the object that induces anxiety, in a desperate effort to control the situation. Copjec writes: The fraudulent nature of this jouissance has everything to do with the fact that it gives one a false sense that the core of one’s being is someething knowable, possessable as an identity, a property, a surplus-value attaching to one’s person.”
so these people try to know the unknowable, and try to control these breaks and fissures in the night that cruel institutions visited on them, that have become so deep and horrifying and naked and obvious with every war crime. they cant do it. Shame on them
Well the way military training works is to exhaust you so deeply, (in basic training no one ever gets enough sleep for months, and they introduce stuff you have to wake up in the night to do to make sure that nobody gets steady rest) both mentally and physically. Then they inflict pain on you by forcing you to do things your body can't reasonably do, then not giving your body time to recover to do it again. Punishments are handed out to the group, and so you begin to act in the interests of the group in hopes of making life easier, or at least less hard for yourself. Once it's over you have time to recover but that trauma remains an essential part of you. And people who go on to combat basically experience the same thing, a complete lack of sleep and being taxed physically for dubious reasons, so that the chain of command is the only refuge if things dont work. So when the trauma gets to be too much, and the chain of command can't help there's nowhere to turn to.
Myfanwy posted:Well the way military training works is to exhaust you so deeply, (in basic training no one ever gets enough sleep for months, and they introduce stuff you have to wake up in the night to do to make sure that nobody gets steady rest) both mentally and physically. Then they inflict pain on you by forcing you to do things your body can't reasonably do, then not giving your body time to recover to do it again. Punishments are handed out to the group, and so you begin to act in the interests of the group in hopes of making life easier, or at least less hard for yourself. Once it's over you have time to recover but that trauma remains an essential part of you. And people who go on to combat basically experience the same thing, a complete lack of sleep and being taxed physically for dubious reasons, so that the chain of command is the only refuge if things dont work. So when the trauma gets to be too much, and the chain of command can't help there's nowhere to turn to.
i know this has been said before but, well, That sounds fake and gay
Crow posted:like look at the PTSD people, its like a manifestation of guilt, they cant possibly face what they did. it isnt shame, its something worse, sham jouissance
PTSD occurs in victims of violence as much or more than in perpetrators
shennong posted:Crow posted:like look at the PTSD people, its like a manifestation of guilt, they cant possibly face what they did. it isnt shame, its something worse, sham jouissance
PTSD occurs in victims of violence as much or more than in perpetrators
i'm talking about the soldiers
http://ptsd.about.com/od/relatedconditions/a/guilt.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2011-11-23/study-of-marines-ptsd/51386488/1
In other words, deal with the core problem which removes all negative emotions, which stops feeding PTSD to create symptoms, or continually suffer.
Myfanwy posted:Well the way military training works is to exhaust you so deeply, (in basic training no one ever gets enough sleep for months, and they introduce stuff you have to wake up in the night to do to make sure that nobody gets steady rest) both mentally and physically. Then they inflict pain on you by forcing you to do things your body can't reasonably do, then not giving your body time to recover to do it again. Punishments are handed out to the group, and so you begin to act in the interests of the group in hopes of making life easier, or at least less hard for yourself. Once it's over you have time to recover but that trauma remains an essential part of you. And people who go on to combat basically experience the same thing, a complete lack of sleep and being taxed physically for dubious reasons, so that the chain of command is the only refuge if things dont work. So when the trauma gets to be too much, and the chain of command can't help there's nowhere to turn to.
med school works the same way
Crow posted:It is theorized that PTSD symptoms are maintained by guilt through a cyclic pattern; guilt-related thoughts often accompany traumatic memories and these guilty thoughts also produce a negative emotional response (e.g. distress, guilt, anger) within the individual. Through this type of conditioning, traumatic memories trigger negative emotions, and the experience of the negative affect reinforces the aversive nature of the traumatic memory. This negative cycle also tends to increase avoidance of the traumatic memory which reduces the likelihood of improvement through extinction and explains why these painful thoughts do not get better with the passage of time.
In other words, deal with the core problem which removes all negative emotions, which stops feeding PTSD to create symptoms, or continually suffer.
thats pretty interesting, thx
tpaine posted:but really, what difference does it make? Corn's coming up.
imma send you an invoice for a nickel