If people wanna dress up like Vodamord or Sneap or whatever and talk about Harry Potter at a convention, that’s fine, because it’s egalitarian and open and more about the camaraderie and identity.
Bonding over a “serious” or “intellectual” book is merely making a shallow, temporal alliance of grievance and contempt for the world
babyfinland posted:alex theroux > paul theroux
where does louis fit in there?
I haven't read anything by Alex, what's good? Do they have some sort of shitty hitchenesque broternal rivalry or something because i can totally imagine that
babyfinland posted:what about the bible or quran
hmmm i dunno
Ironicwarcriminal posted:babyfinland posted:alex theroux > paul theroux
where does louis fit in there?
I haven't read anything by Alex, what's good? Do they have some sort of shitty hitchenesque broternal rivalry or something because i can totally imagine that
laura warholic is probably the easiest to find but darconville's cat is the best one
Ironicwarcriminal posted:Oh Johnny I’m reading a paul theroux book where he’s in japan talking to Haruki Murakami and murakami reckons that mishima fucked Truman capote……that would have been a sight!
hahaha... if only they'd filmed it..
babyfinland posted:Ironicwarcriminal posted:
babyfinland posted:
alex theroux > paul theroux
where does louis fit in there?
I haven't read anything by Alex, what's good? Do they have some sort of shitty hitchenesque broternal rivalry or something because i can totally imagine that
laura warholic is probably the easiest to find but darconville's cat is the best one
thanks, i'll check it out after i've finished my current Paul: i have a weakness for travel writing
Ironicwarcriminal posted:Yeah but the implicit assumption of such bonding is “look at how we are similar by sharing in this text that lies out of the reach of “normal” people”.
If people wanna dress up like Vodamord or Sneap or whatever and talk about Harry Potter at a convention, that’s fine, because it’s egalitarian and open and more about the camaraderie and identity.
Bonding over a “serious” or “intellectual” book is merely making a shallow, temporal alliance of grievance and contempt for the world
i disagree. i've definitely shared that elitist camaraderie with people before, but a real 'bonding' has involved something different entirely, that involves a sort of deep, meaningful, but abstracted experience that is then shared and relived through speech, suggesting a common excess of feeling - a current that runs beneath the two of you and meets up somewhere in the realm of ideals & values & love. but most of the time yeh its just losers' club snickering
(Note: Harry Potter is a classic)
Ironicwarcriminal posted:Yeah but the implicit assumption of such bonding is “look at how we are similar by sharing in this text that lies out of the reach of “normal” people”.
If people wanna dress up like Vodamord or Sneap or whatever and talk about Harry Potter at a convention, that’s fine, because it’s egalitarian and open and more about the camaraderie and identity.
Bonding over a “serious” or “intellectual” book is merely making a shallow, temporal alliance of grievance and contempt for the world
but egalitarianism for its own sake is retarded
animedad posted:Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Yeah but the implicit assumption of such bonding is “look at how we are similar by sharing in this text that lies out of the reach of “normal” people”.
If people wanna dress up like Vodamord or Sneap or whatever and talk about Harry Potter at a convention, that’s fine, because it’s egalitarian and open and more about the camaraderie and identity.
Bonding over a “serious” or “intellectual” book is merely making a shallow, temporal alliance of grievance and contempt for the world
but egalitarianism for its own sake is retarded
- Bill Kristol
Impper posted:Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Yeah but the implicit assumption of such bonding is “look at how we are similar by sharing in this text that lies out of the reach of “normal” people”.
If people wanna dress up like Vodamord or Sneap or whatever and talk about Harry Potter at a convention, that’s fine, because it’s egalitarian and open and more about the camaraderie and identity.
Bonding over a “serious” or “intellectual” book is merely making a shallow, temporal alliance of grievance and contempt for the world
i disagree. i've definitely shared that elitist camaraderie with people before, but a real 'bonding' has involved something different entirely, that involves a sort of deep, meaningful, but abstracted experience that is then shared and relived through speech, suggesting a common excess of feeling - a current that runs beneath the two of you and meets up somewhere in the realm of ideals & values & love.
I don't think i've ever had this irl :/
Ironicwarcriminal posted:Impper posted:Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Yeah but the implicit assumption of such bonding is “look at how we are similar by sharing in this text that lies out of the reach of “normal” people”.
If people wanna dress up like Vodamord or Sneap or whatever and talk about Harry Potter at a convention, that’s fine, because it’s egalitarian and open and more about the camaraderie and identity.
Bonding over a “serious” or “intellectual” book is merely making a shallow, temporal alliance of grievance and contempt for the world
i disagree. i've definitely shared that elitist camaraderie with people before, but a real 'bonding' has involved something different entirely, that involves a sort of deep, meaningful, but abstracted experience that is then shared and relived through speech, suggesting a common excess of feeling - a current that runs beneath the two of you and meets up somewhere in the realm of ideals & values & love.I don't think i've ever had this irl :/
i've had it in earnest with two different girls. another one i possibly could in the future but she's Weird
cleanhands posted:i have a friend i didnt really 'get' until we were way past crunk on nye and having a super boring (to other ppl) conversation about our bookthinks, its less worthwhile with new ppl though bc then it forms part of your first impressions and you dont wanna be pegged as that marxist guy because you rambled a lil too long about something you only picked up 2 days ago
this is more of a problem with being a marxist than a bookworm tbqh 
Ironicwarcriminal posted:cleanhands posted:i have a friend i didnt really 'get' until we were way past crunk on nye and having a super boring (to other ppl) conversation about our bookthinks, its less worthwhile with new ppl though bc then it forms part of your first impressions and you dont wanna be pegged as that marxist guy because you rambled a lil too long about something you only picked up 2 days ago
this is more of a problem with being a marxist than a bookworm tbqh
actually for me it was when i was 'really into' asimov for all of a week and some dude introduced me to a woman as being a huge sf fan, and take it from me that is an extraordinarily hard thing to fake
Reticence- Toussaint
Vlad- Carlos Fuentes
A Tomb for Boris Davidovich- Danilo Kiš
Normance- Celine
The Recognitions- Gaddis
The Siege in the Room- Miquel Bauçà
The Form of a City Changes Faster, Alas, Than the Human Heart- Roubaud
Heartbreak Tango- Puig
Third Policeman- Flann O'Brian
Here- Giscombe
