getfiscal posted:

swampman posted:

what world do you live in where being a male nurse is generally seen as being weak, pathetic, unnecessary, amusing, disgusting, or transgressive

The audience is supposed to identify with Ben Stiller, who is in that common situation of having to get along with an elderly family member with backwards, outdated, and insulting views. The whole "Men can't be nurses and women can't be doctors" thing is so old it's actually become shorthand for "the crazy shit people used to think."

swampman posted:

getfiscal posted:

swampman posted:

what world do you live in where being a male nurse is generally seen as being weak, pathetic, unnecessary, amusing, disgusting, or transgressive

The audience is supposed to identify with Ben Stiller, who is in that common situation of having to get along with an elderly family member with backwards, outdated, and insulting views. The whole "Men can't be nurses and women can't be doctors" thing is so old it's actually become shorthand for "the crazy shit people used to think."

Actually, I think the film mostly mocks Stiller and supports the view of De Niro (although it pokes some fun at him too, mainly his over-the-top CIA surveillance). I mean his name is Gaylord Focker. De Niro, on the other hand, is called Jack. It's actually a rather political movie contrasting cosmopolitan ideas (e.g. male nurses) with traditional values.

Not to mention: "He accidentally breaks Pam's sister's nose during a volleyball mishap; uses a malfunctioning toilet that floods the Byrnes' back yard with sewage; sets the wedding altar on fire and inadvertently leads Jack to think he is a marijuana user. Later, Greg loses Jinx and replaces him with a stray whose tail he spray paints to make him look like Mr. Jinx."

swampman posted:

getfiscal posted:

swampman posted:

what world do you live in where being a male nurse is generally seen as being weak, pathetic, unnecessary, amusing, disgusting, or transgressive

The audience is supposed to identify with Ben Stiller, who is in that common situation of having to get along with an elderly family member with backwards, outdated, and insulting views. The whole "Men can't be nurses and women can't be doctors" thing is so old it's actually become shorthand for "the crazy shit people used to think."

this is true of queer sexuality too but people still act like theres some sort of glass ceiling to break through

tpaine posted:
Not to mention: "(proof i am a big fan of the 2000 film Meet the Parents, its 2004 sequel Meet the Fockers, its 2010 sequel Little Fockers, and its 2011 sequel in which Stiller meets his distant European uncle, Count Focker)"

It's in quotes because it's taken from the plot segment of Wikipedia. Although I've seen the first movie, it was years ago.

deadken posted:
gender chat devolves into rudimentary analysis of the film "meet the parents" starring ben stiller. nice work lads, noice, real noice

Are we not men?

Cycloneboy posted:
except gender's not real, etc etc.

that's trans-erasure

Cycloneboy posted:
except gender's not real, etc etc.

you can't say gender isn't real after benefitting from your gender all your life

Cycloneboy posted:
i didn't choose to be maab

and yet... here we are

discipline posted:
reminder

i know pple dont like tumblr words- but at the risk of gaslighting here (im not - im transman), you are pussywashing my struggle (or "douching the gaschamber" or "puss piping"/ "smoking the puss pipe"). dont appropriate minorities' anti-appropriation struggles pls, so stay in ur corner n dont mention them

tpaine posted:

babyfinland posted:

gyrofry posted:
my softball team will be coed or it will be bullshit

lol softball

physical activity, amirite? Fuck along now, you amoeboid hitler.

lol softball as "physical activity"

this is true of queer sexuality toothis is true of queer sexuality toothis is true of queer sexuality too

but gender doesn't exist