EmanuelaOrlandi posted:no they shouldnt
loving this, thanks for posting it. i liked his rockets hat so i clicked on it lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR86v03bRjA
badass shit my old producer made #EnglishContent
shermanstick posted:
damn. this my new shit
i never remember what i post but here go. see i aint on the games, hoe im from that gulf and if you don't know...pour that shit up
NOTSUCAL ON DA BEATS
THE WORLD I LIVE IN
IS VERY IGNORANT
SONGS ABOUT STEALING COPPER
HOUSTON TEXANS THEMED DONKS
AND BRAGGING BOASTING AND FLAMBOASTING
xipe posted:PUTS rule
Yeah, Thes One is one of my favourite producers
i mean time
DA PAST HOMIE
shermanstick posted:glad to see you're feeling tommy wright. he's got a fucking staggering amount of material to wade through
yea he has a real feel to him. no wonder he had so much shit, he had a good thing goin
deadken posted:ok so like. im really feelin big krit + g-side + freddie gibbs + a lot of the 90s dirty south shit ppl rec'd here.... but jackie chain is fuckin awful + i dont think i 'get' young dro etc...... whats some cool shit fo me 2 listen 2. pls reply w/ words and not, like, a bunch of youtubes i wont click. thanking you
I keep wanting to like Jackie Chain, but Rollin' is the only track he's been on that I really enjoy.
You should listen to Danny Brown if you haven't already. XXX was my favourite hip-hop record of last year.
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deadken posted:g-side sample hyph mngo lol
Yeah, G-Side's producers have no qualms about sampling recent or really obvious stuff. They also have a track with a Beach House sample, and another that either samples Nas' The World Is Yours or took the same sample from Ahmad Jamal's I Love Music and didn't do anything particularly interesting with it. Fuck it. Kind of like 'em anyway.
the production quality on starshipz & rocketz is really excellent imo, not as great on the other records but w/e. also krit got some p good chops as a producer. like on that after hours mixtape all the production seems so.... generic, theres beats and bass but without anything to distinguish it
deadken posted:ok so like. im really feelin big krit + g-side + freddie gibbs + a lot of the 90s dirty south shit ppl rec'd here.... but jackie chain is fuckin awful + i dont think i 'get' young dro etc...... whats some cool shit fo me 2 listen 2. pls reply w/ words and not, like, a bunch of youtubes i wont click. thanking you
the kewl thing about rap is how fiercely regional & community based the whole thing is. so if you're fucking with g-side, they're crazy loyal to huntsville based units slow motion soundz and block beattaz, so looking for shit with those names on it is going to come up with a lot of business with the same aesthetic. following these connections is the best way to find shit, everything is really strongly aligned to specific labels / production outfits / neighbourhoods / crews so like if you're fucking with goodie mob you check for anything east point, dungeon fam, organized noize
k.r.i.t. or gibbs are an exception here cause those dudes are revivalists, mining past shit with a sophistication that lets bloggers fall in love with it. "intelligent trunk music" and shit. if you like that vibe pick up anything by pill, stalley, anything associated with dj burnone
i guess i get not fucking with dro at first but he's a cat decked out in polo sweatervests spitting about how his car looks like various sea food dishes, so basically the greatest thing in the universe
LandBeluga posted:Yeah, G-Side's producers have no qualms about sampling recent or really obvious stuff. They also have a track with a Beach House sample, and another that either samples Nas' The World Is Yours or took the same sample from Ahmad Jamal's I Love Music and didn't do anything particularly interesting with it. Fuck it. Kind of like 'em anyway.
haha man fuck this eclectic listening shit where hyph mngo or fucking beach house are in any way "obvious" to the crowd this shit is aimed at. p4k and bloghype is cool and all for introducing all this business to wider audiences but at the same time the decontextualization / deterritorialization that comes with that is super reductive. like danny brown has anything to do with southern rap.
if you're not feeling jackie chain, then you're probably trying too hard. the guy is essentially a half-korean version of young dro with less intricate word play. everytime i hear jackie chain talking about his hair i think of his long silky mane flowing through the air like some kind of horse and i smile
new killer mike is banging btw
blinkandwheeze posted:haha man fuck this eclectic listening shit where hyph mngo or fucking beach house are in any way "obvious" to the crowd this shit is aimed at. p4k and bloghype is cool and all for introducing all this business to wider audiences but at the same time the decontextualization / deterritorialization that comes with that is super reductive. like danny brown has anything to do with southern rap.
LandBeluga posted:recent or really obvious
If part of what you're trying to say is that I'm a privileged nerd and it's unfair for me to criticize hip-hop producers from The South who presumably do not share many of the same privileges I enjoy for perceived laziness in sampling contemporary and/or obvious sources, that's just. I tried to state it as a nonjudgemental observation. You're going to have to explain to me how your sentence about Danny Brown isn't a non sequitur, though. Who's talking about Danny Brown having anything to do with southern rap?
shermanstick posted:everything blinkandwheeze said is 100% correct on every level, esp about the danny brown thing. he's great and all, but please don't lump gibbs/g-side/krit in with him as they are pretty much descended from UGK/8Ball and MJG, while danny brown owes more to slum village, detroit and some NY rappers.
Who's lumping Danny Brown in with the other aforementioned artists? This is a hip-hop thread, not a southern hip-hop thread, and while deadken said he was feeling some southern hip-hop, he didn't ask specifically for dirty south recommendations.
The Danny Brown comment is more related to that mentioning XXX is a bit of an aside when we're discussing southern and southern-influenced hip-hop, and he specifically mentioned ONLY southern sounding artists. Gibbs is the exception, but he's on fucking CTE.
deadken, try Don Trip, a lot of people are feeling him lately.
LandBeluga posted:If part of what you're trying to say is that I'm a privileged nerd and it's unfair for me to criticize hip-hop producers from The South who presumably do not share many of the same privileges I enjoy for perceived laziness in sampling contemporary and/or obvious sources, that's just. I tried to state it as a nonjudgemental observation. You're going to have to explain to me how your sentence about Danny Brown isn't a non sequitur, though. Who's talking about Danny Brown having anything to do with southern rap?
basically what i think is wrong with this mode of listening based in this eclecticism is that putting g-side on this singular plain with beach house or danny brown or whatever, where we're all apart of this singular community where everything is just that new dope sound, man, is that this ignores how important local communities and self-identification is to this music. like what block you came up in and who you smoke with or whatever and paying respect to that is really hugely important to rap music, especially hyperlocal southern rap like what we're talking about. if you pay attention to how these people define themselves or what they align themselves to, which are these really hyperlocal communal signifiers, beach house or whatever isn't a logical relation at all, and it should be celebrated that these guys can appropriate disparate aesthetics into that structural framework, not condemned for being too contemporary or "obvious" or whatever
it was a non sequitur for you to mention danny brown, he has nothing to do with what ken said he was enjoying, its just a lazy recommendation and it treats rap like a singular entity that it isn't
e: haha basically what sherm said
shermanstick posted:You dumbshit, he's not calling you out on being a privileged nerd. He's saying that to most people these aren't obvious samples and I think the wider point he's trying to get at is that a lot of producers are trying to flip absolutely anything these days because they can. It isn't laziness, it is just guys that the lane in hip-hop is so wide open right now that you can sample ANYTHING and as long as it rides, the source does not matter. It really really doesn't matter what they sample and if you're giving more attention to that then you're just a big ole dummy for ignoring the regional context.
That's ALWAYS been the way in hip-hop, it's not just "these days." The genesis of the genre was DJs isolating and extending the breaks they were feeling in tracks that were popular at the time, and you don't need me to tell you that. Bottom line, it's weird for you to say that "producers are trying to flip absolutely anything these days" when it's more or less been the rule throughout the genre's history. It's not something that's unique to any region at any time.