Groulxsmith posted:
eastern rite catholic priests can marry
yup
shennong posted:
he died
RIP, to those who died.
elemennop posted:Why would you want to be an eastern rite catholic when you can be an Orthodox the way god intended?
gyrofry posted:
the leadership of the roman catholic church and the orthodox church have been secretly reunified for the last 30 years and they just keep up the different brands for the same reason gm has chevy and buick
lol
EmanuelaOrlandi posted:
naw with atheism its only the second part
emptyquoting this so it can get more upvotes by proxy
babyfinland posted:
i think its extremely revealing about how technocratic and obscenely ideological our society is that people consider matters of spirituality and religious debate to be in the realm of "X is smarter than Y"
yeah most of our beliefs are pretty arbitrary and nonsensical anyways, what's it matter if you also believe that god is in the magic book publishing business.
getfiscal posted:babyfinland posted:
i think its extremely revealing about how technocratic and obscenely ideological our society is that people consider matters of spirituality and religious debate to be in the realm of "X is smarter than Y"yeah most of our beliefs are pretty arbitrary and nonsensical anyways, what's it matter if you also believe that god is in the magic book publishing business.
this is sort of what i mean though. obviously spirituality is not any more arbitrary or nonsensical than anything else, thats just how it appears through the (arbitrary and nonsensical) technocratic gaze of the modern
elemennop posted:
putting things in the category of spirituality puts you firmly in the place of atheism, since you're putting your knowledge of god into a different category than that of the world. in orthodoxy there is no spirituality because the world and god are not divisible. amen.
baby finland is an atheist muslim.
getfiscal posted:elemennop posted:
putting things in the category of spirituality puts you firmly in the place of atheism, since you're putting your knowledge of god into a different category than that of the world. in orthodoxy there is no spirituality because the world and god are not divisible. amen.baby finland is an atheist muslim.
that was my point. tom knows not the love god beyond the last bite of his 5th baconator.
elemennop posted:
putting things in the category of spirituality puts you firmly in the place of atheism, since you're putting your knowledge of god into a different category than that of the world. in orthodoxy there is no spirituality because the world and god are not divisible. amen.
maybe in christiantiy thats true but its not the case in islam. in any case im not drawing a hard distinction between spirituality and the world, i specifically said that 'spirituality is obviously no more arbitrary or nonsensical than anything else'. its a field of experience definable in certain ways, thats not to make fundamentalist claims about the empiricism of faith. fly away troll.
getfiscal posted:
if you tweet something that includes the word "atheist", teams of weird spergs will read it and try to argue against your religious beliefs. that's sad. it's like hey sir, you just posted that a spirit overlord gave you ancient storybooks filled with commands, let's have a debate over whether that's reasonable. oh hi you believe that you have intricate knowledge over the comings and goings of a spirit realm, let's chat about chris hitchens for a while. no thanks.
getfiscal posted:
if you tweet something that includes the word "atheist", teams of weird spergs will read it and try to argue against your religious beliefs. that's sad. it's like hey sir, you just posted that a spirit overlord gave you ancient storybooks filled with commands, let's have a debate over whether that's reasonable. oh hi you believe that you have intricate knowledge over the comings and goings of a spirit realm, let's chat about chris hitchens for a while. no thanks.
The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “A nation never went astray after being guided except by means of disputation.” (Tirmidhi) after which he recited the verse: “They only say this to you for argument’s sake, they are indeed a disputatious people” (43:58).
Some of the Salaf used to say that “When Allah desires good for His servant, He opens for him the door of action. When Allah desires evil for His servant, He locks the door to action and opens instead the door of disputation.” Imam Malik (may Allah have mercy on him) said that “Arguing and disputing about knowledge takes away the light of knowledge” and that: “Disputing about knowledge hardens the heart and breeds cursing.” It was the manner of the greatest Imams and scholars to often remain silent and respond to questions with: “I don’t know.”
lol this is in reference to an alcoholic smoker who died,as a result, of throat cancer, and spent his life alternately as a trotskyist, bashing mother teresa, or as a neoconservative, advocating genocidal war
babyfinland posted:
lol this is in reference to an alcoholic smoker who died,as a result, of throat cancer, and spent his life alternately as a trotskyist, bashing mother teresa, or as a neoconservative, advocating genocidal war
what a beautiful life. wasn't boring. honestly it's not like we're running out of iraqis, we'll make more. people like hitchens only come around so often.
أستغفر الله
Impper posted:
hahahaha god is a punk b*tch
if i really am god i am emo/scene not punk