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hello. so i was thinking--im always thinking, you know me--that probably the reason we are so immiserated is because we dont have socialism. anyone said this yet? it would be so awesome if we had a rationally planned socialist society. everything would be so calm and relaxing. it would be just like a calm, relaxing anime. you would still have to have a job, or maybe not (idk this one yet), but it would be a relaxing job where you could stretch your limbs and take a deep breath before moving on to the next task. and if you wanted to take a nap, you would be allowed to take a nap within reason (reason is the basis of all rational planning.)

i think the appeal of this sort of thing is just about inherent and universal--everyone is tired of the terrific gunfire and screaming, everyone is tired of the bodily mayhem. perhaps there is a little oat of naive socialism that exists in the deepest and sweetest recesses of our sentimental hearts. hehe... sigh... wouldnt that be nice if it were true, and maybe it is. and even if its not, if we lay our political plans down right, we can arrive at the rationally planned socialist society within a matter of years. death is always closer than we think, so we are always nearer to heaven than we might imagine, and socialism sounds like it will be a relaxing, tranquil heaven on earth indeed. imagine waking up in the morning nestled between your clean pink sheets and calling the worksite desk on your pink plastic telephone to tell them that youll be sleeping in. it would be okay that you did this, the collective would have already rationally planned for it.

maybe you would never have to be trapped with your abuser--hop on board the luminous socialism train to your new safe unknown life in anytown, oneworld. your board and keep are already paid in full, my friend. sorry, does it sound tawdry when i say "abuser"? maybe i sound a bit tumblr when i say abuser. personally, i hate abuse, and ive always been super pissed when i got abused. will abusers be a thing of the past in the calm, relaxing socialist future of tomorrow? hmm, they will probably still be around, but their capacity to achieve material mastery over the lives of their prospective victims will be significantly diminished. that would be awesome. i would love that. that would be freaking great. that would be very relaxing.

so this thing basically sells itself--oops, i shouldnt say sell, i am trying to unlearn bad old habits. this thing basically uh... advances... promotes... recommends... proves itself. so the only darn question, and this is a sticky one, is this: how in the wild world of sports are we gonna freaking get there! i propose that we, create a party call the socialist party, and win the united states presidential election.

another proposal i have is that we dig our heels in, win an entrenched, protracted military conflict against our implacable foe, and relax on trains afterwards.

does anyone have any better ideas? feel free to "sound off" and please reply to this thread with your ideas or critiques, after all socialism cannot come about alone, we all need each other so desperately, so desperately...
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It's true that under socialism smartphones won't exist and we will have cute pink plastic rotary phones instead. And all the trains will have circular headlamps on the front with a big smile underneath. and all the buildings will look like this



as for your other questions i don't know op.
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Yes, the future will be as cute and whimsical as the nice picture you posted and the fun trains you imagined. And thats ok, maybe we can figure the answers out... together...
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hi realsubtle. sounds pretty good
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dont i know it!
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idk that does sound p cool tho. but is it realistic? is it too much to asj for, that everything be kinda nice and not suck a whole lot for everyone who isnt a sociopath? i will have to do some thinking on this

e: i would like to hedge that query slightl, lots of things also suck for what is realistically the majority of sociopaths :/

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that's a realsubtle idea you have there friend
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Fighting for a world in which my grandchildren can have cute pink rotary phones
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perhaps we could try constructing a large cannon and pointing it at our enemies.
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Parenti posted:

perhaps we could try constructing a large cannon and pointing it at our enemies.


you're gonna want to put it on the train

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tfw chatting to the operator of a railway gun on a cute socialist rotary phone
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yes hello? is that the manager of socialism? hi! say, it sure would be great if i could have all the things i want, right now... already on their way you say? delivered by the elves of socialism? and i can stay home and enjoy them and don't worry about coming in to work until i feel like it? gee, thanks!
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socialism is basically about bringing back the 50s. but not in the weirdo trad way, just in the sense that all our personal effects & accessories will be made of pastel coloured bakelite
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*hands Agent Smith a disc labeled "Communism", he nods with approval*
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thirdplace posted:

Parenti posted:

perhaps we could try constructing a large cannon and pointing it at our enemies.

you're gonna want to put it on the train



.......holy guacamole!!!

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A 300-foot-tall mechanical Stalin that shoots laser beams from its eyes, and instead of a tobacco pipe sticking out of the mouth it's an exhaust pipe in the shape of a tobacco pipe with puffs of steam coming out of it.
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so how's this coming along
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lies half the time
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lying on the train tracks that lead yonder to the calm, relaxing future
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Dont Mess With Sucess
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drwhat posted:

so how's this coming along


Russian Government Spokesperson: "China Asked Us to Become Communist Again and We Said Yes."

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can we get some nice solarpunk design for the calm relaxing new world? lots of trees and waterfalls, and such
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I had an idea that moss and ivy could be used on the surface of things but im not sure if it would attract bugs and worms into the "built environment." Write my suggestion down anyway though. Moss and ivy. Also, isnt solar actually bad due to rare earth metals? definitely need to figure that out, i know melanie said that once, shes smart.
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realsubtle posted:

I had an idea that moss and ivy could be used on the surface of things but im not sure if it would attract bugs and worms into the "built environment." Write my suggestion down anyway though. Moss and ivy. Also, isnt solar actually bad due to rare earth metals? definitely need to figure that out, i know melanie said that once, shes smart.


i think there needs to be some bugs and worms around the built environment, to maintain the health of plants and the soil. and hey, those bugs and worms just want to live their lives like the rest of us.

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realsubtle posted:

I had an idea that moss and ivy could be used on the surface of things but im not sure if it would attract bugs and worms into the "built environment." Write my suggestion down anyway though. Moss and ivy. Also, isnt solar actually bad due to rare earth metals? definitely need to figure that out, i know melanie said that once, shes smart.


I firmly maintain the belief that PV solar sucks the mediocre one and the Way and the Light is revealed to us through the glory of Concentrated Solar Thermal energy, but this requires a bit more engineering and moving parts and fluid and weird stuff. Planning on trying to build a small system once i get a farm to try it out though.

solar photovoltaic panels slowly degrade over time, they have a life expectancy of about 20-30 years so basically every one ever built is about to get thrown into the garbage and replaced with a new one that is more expensive and will also be thrown into the garbage. CST at least is mostly all recyclable.

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I don't really see any way around the problems of CST. It has a really big land footprint. It can't be built close to the human settlements it's supposed to power because it's too hot and bright. In the morning there's a lag period where it has to heat up again after cooling off overnight so it can't meet demand at that time without external energy sources getting it back up to temperature quicker. It messes with wildlife in the remote areas it has to be built in pretty bad.

Imo, PV is way better and more useful than CST. Eventually we'll figure out a way to recycle PV panels as well, but CST needs giant structures which, I guess yeah the individual components can be recycled but you still have to tear down a big-ass tower.
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Mostly just playing around. But a parabolic trough system doesnt need the big space tower of doom. And the motion control isn't as complex. The product being heat, it could be stored in a thermal buffer to provide energy at night, or to provide heat for water and food or industry. Seems like it should be possible to scale the technology down for providing power to farms and rural areas and possibly designed as modular. Hard part I think is getting the mirrors.
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If you're looking into building something you probably know more than me, but my understanding is that it doesn't scale down very well. You would just be building a steam powered generator with the heat provided by CST right? I feel like that's too complex for small scale application. Storing the energy in a thermal buffer makes sense at the larger scale, but I think someone doing this on the small scale would find it difficult to handle the materials used for that purpose safely especially when they're at 500 C. Also the less material you're using the less energy you can store, and idk at what point it's not worth doing anymore. The mirrors can be pretty expensive, and need to be kept clean.
Solar panels are way easier, you pretty much just need a good spot for them, buy them, and hook them up.
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The ideal “solar” power would be power provided by solars, the class of angel from fantasy gaming. This could be an endless supply of energy from a virtuous & willing source but sadly today it remains only a theory.
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why can't we just put outlets in tree trunks and let the trees make the energy through photosynthesis
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招瑤 posted:

why can't we just put outlets in tree trunks and let the trees make the energy through photosynthesis



because that would be exploitation and honestly abuse.

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This thread has me feeling all of the feels that doctors have agreed I am capable of feeling (except for any kind of mouthfeel)