https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html
Endlessly amusing to watch Trump do the political equivalent of drunken boxing on his way up the ladder to 2020. Posterity would have probably regarded him as a notable statesman of empire in decline if it weren’t for his horny idiot personality.
What I mean is, every time this latest Trump story appears, like 10-12 times a day on big news sites and dozens of times on their TV channels, it’s mentioned that Joseph Biden is massively corrupt, and then the story’s like “but that’s totally unproven, you shouldn’t even listen to us. We’d never bring it up, except...”
And they’re right, they wouldn’t, and I feel like the self-styled Democrat puppeteers in the Intelligence Community™ had to endure night after night getting booed by the audience, and the sudden death of the C-list celebrity they flash-hired to spice up the cast, before they decided to risk this particular stunt.
cars posted:What’s funny IMO is that it’s possible some gang behind three security gates in north Virginia decided to burn Biden’s primary chances for this
Biden's literally in the same position Hillary Clinton was in 2016 now, if he wins the primaries, all the GOP's gotta do is blow the dust off the old fox news reels and scratch out the words Hillary and emails and replace them with Biden and Ukraine. And the CIA blew the lid for him! Fuck, Trump is so goddamned lucky I can't believe it.
Like this: Trump is somehow convinced to leave office early, Pence or some last-minute sub-in replaces him as his party’s candidate in 2020, the Democrat field remains divided and weak... and whichever pushover or faux-rebel wins in 2020 knows exactly who was responsible for that stuff and why.
So even if they’re not someone like Pence, Warren, etc. who would give the CIA everything they wanted no questions asked if they were president, 2020’s president-elect would still come into office ready to pay attention to the loaded gun the boys wave vaguely in their direction, the one thing Trump refused to do that led to all of this.
Working down from that scenario, no matter how it turns out, everyone still knows exactly who’s making or breaking U.S. “democracy” now, thanks to those saintly anonymous Washington sources beloved by the Times. The spooks have to make sure no one makes Trump’s mistake again in their lifetimes.
dimashq posted:Biden's literally in the same position Hillary Clinton was in 2016 now, if he wins the primaries, all the GOP's gotta do is blow the dust off the old fox news reels and scratch out the words Hillary and emails and replace them with Biden and Ukraine. And the CIA blew the lid for him! Fuck, Trump is so goddamned lucky I can't believe it.
I guess it comes down to how divorced the default, CNN-style, anonymous-source-driven U.S. news sources are from voters, since those news outlets will paint anyone who brings up Biden’s nepotism and corruption as Russian agents, and now, they have a decent chance of people outside Washington understanding what the hell they’re even talking about with those accusations.
But if not enough people trust the non-Fox-News press or listen to them anymore, it won’t work, and up until now, they’ve depended on a slim majority of the country accepting their stories, however insane-looking, as basically true, probably because of osmosis by repetition and a lack of polite alternatives, and because even Fox and friends tend to back them up on establishment lies about Iran, Venezuela, Syria, etc.
I’ve talked about evidence of that rift between the Washington press and average slobs over peace in Korea, but probably the best argument for it is that Trump was elected at all, an outcome the OP of this thread predicted over and over here on tHE r H i z z o n E.
The folks who sent that CIA agent to dig dirt on Trump know how it works in Washington: cowardice keeps most people from acting until it looks like they’d better get on board or get left behind as their job pulls out of the station. This has the air of, “We might actually pull it off this time, remember Nixon, right? You don’t want to be caught on the Nixon side of Washington folk history, do you?” no matter how it ends up.
Chthonic_Goat_666 posted:biden will win because the funniest outcome is having his teeth fall out at his inauguration
he's probably going to lose the first 3 states to Warren (unless Bernie has a miraculous turnout somehow) which will likely erode his support going into South Carolina. barring a big win in the south during Super Tuesday, he's done.
Zoe posted:I remember telling my therapist about the Epstein stuff, and that I was worried nothing would come of it, nobody would face any sort of punishment, etc. and I was completely right
Well an older man did get his neck broken over it...
My sweet, adorable daughter Lolly, floating on a slice of pizza... pic.twitter.com/LLBZ0Vl4We
— Dan Schneider (@DanWarp) July 12, 2015
From this article: https://www.newsweek.com/2018/01/19/boston-marathon-bomb-maker-loose-776742.html
"FBI officials also have yet to explain why bureau agents were in the Tsarnaevs' neighborhood, which is roughly a mile from MIT, the night Dzhokhar killed Collier."
"The FBI maintains to this day that the bombers were not known to the bureau before those photos were made public, despite the fact that federal agents interviewed Tamerlan and his family multiple times in 2011"
As Topsfield cops and state police continued their search of Morley's bedroom and a shed in the backyard, the FBI suddenly showed up, leading one trooper to say, "Who called the feebs?"
"Morley was arrested by Topsfield police that day, charged with two counts of assault and battery against his mother and her companion, and with making a bomb threat. And then, nothing. The FBI showed up at Topsfield police headquarters and seized much of the evidence taken from Morley's home after Hayward executed a search warrant. Morley was never formally arraigned in connection with the charges that Hayward swore out in a criminal complaint, and those charges were abruptly dropped without explanation by the Essex County district attorney."
lenochodek posted:a few years ago i had a colleague who was kyrgyz (like the tsarnaev bros) who was working as a researcher at umass dartmouth at the time of those bombings.. he said he used to play ball sports and chess with those guys quite regularly and that they were totally normal guys and that he was 100 percent convinced they were framed. also he didnt say anything about his mysterious return to europe (where he rejoined the research group he had angrily quit a year beforehand) shortly after the attacks
knowing that a D*n Schn**d*r story is probably about to drop soon has me shaking
— matt (@_matthewlawson) October 10, 2019
AZ_IZ_OT posted:are you implying communists have to start fucking kids
Presenting: The Spartacist League
(b) Oct. 19, 2019 / Washington Examiner
Jeff Schoep was once America’s leading neo-Nazi, propagating anti-Semitism and building an army to wage “racist violence” in his role as leader of the National Socialist Movement.
But now he claims to be renouncing his racist past to help wean far-right extremists away from white supremacy using the blueprint developed by his mentor, a former al Qaeda recruiter.
They launch next month with an anti-fascist magazine that uses all the techniques that Jesse Morton once used to convert young Americans into jihadists, first attracting recruits with propaganda before sucking them into a network of online activists who radicalized them to fight at home or abroad.
Schoep, 45, said a former neo-Nazi and a former jihadist may seem like odd bedfellows, but they shared a common experience.
“What Jesse did with the jihadists is that he had a magazine as a propagandist that reached people interested in extremism, and now he is countering it with the same template but for good purposes,” he said.
Morton was sentenced to 11½ years in prison in 2012 for conspiring to solicit murder. His Revolution Muslim website, which he ran while a student in New York, became a focal point for American-born extremists who were groomed for militant groups. His magazine was the template for al Qaeda’s English language publication, Inspire.
(c) Jan. 25, 2017 / Washington Post
Jesse Morton made national headlines when he was accused in federal court of using his Revolution Muslim website to encourage attacks against the creators of “South Park” and others he said were enemies of Islam.
After he was convicted, the Virginia man became an FBI informant. Once released from prison, he joined a D.C.-area think tank focused on studying extremism, saying he hoped to “make amends” through his work.
But Morton, now 38, again faces legal troubles after being arrested and accused of bringing cocaine to meet a prostitute. He is due in court next week and could return to prison.
Morton is no longer working as a research fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism, a spokesman confirmed.
Morton was once deemed by federal prosecutors as dangerous to “the very freedoms on which our society is based.” But even before leaving prison, he has said in an interview, he began working undercover on counterterrorism operations. He was released in 2015 after serving less than a third of his 11½ -year prison sentence and hired by GWU the following year.
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In an interview last fall with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Morton said that after his plea and while in prison, he began doing work for federal agents. According to court documents and a defense attorney involved, after his release Morton was paid by the FBI to help build a case against a supporter of the Islamic State.
(d) Sept. 6, 2016 / AlterNet
U.S. media outlets are eagerly broadcasting the supposedly redemptive story of Jesse Morton, a Pennsylvania-born former “Al Qaeda recruiter” turned FBI informant and counter-terror expert, transformed into a force for good thanks in part to his run-ins with federal agents. The 37-year-old Morton’s story is capturing attention because he was recently hired as a fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism, which functions as a feeder school and think tank for the federal war on terror and domestic surveillance apparatus. In his new position, Morton will, as New York Times reporter Rukmini Callimachi put it, “research the very ideology he once spread.” Lorenzo Vidino, the director of the GW program, boasts that this is the first time a former jihadist will take an academic post in the United States.
In addition to the Times article, titled, “Once a Qaeda Recruiter, Now a Voice Against Jihad,” Morton was featured in an interview on PBS news hour and covered by publications from CNN to the Washington Post. Each of these stories is remarkably similar, echoing Morton’s narrative of being “rehumanized” by an FBI agent and reformed by reading western philosophers and writers like John Locke and Jean-Jacques Rousseau. Reporters overwhelmingly take Morton’s story of “de-radicalization” at face value, failing to raise the most basic questions about the federal agents he lauds.
It is easy to understand why the FBI would be thrilled with the positive media coverage its informant program has received, thanks to Morton. The program has been subjected to lawsuits and accusations of gross human rights violations, including mistreatment of the people it coerces into cooperation. It is also worth questioning whether Morton's story, as it is being told by major media outlets, is entirely true.
A closer look at Morton’s story raises serious questions about his past and the way it has been exploited. Two expert researchers who interviewed Morton before his conviction describe him as a provocateur who had little influence and no operational role in Al Qaeda. With the help of self-styled national security reporters, Morton may be exaggerating his past to advance his career ambitions, while providing the FBI with desperately needed public relations help.
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Those unwilling to become informants face retaliation and threats. In the lawsuit Tanvir v. Holder, four Muslim plaintiffs charged that the FBI put them or kept them on the secretive federal no-fly list in retaliation for their refusal to inform on their communities.
“Individuals have recounted how the FBI threatened them with baseless terrorism charges or deportation to gain their cooperation, or have brought charges against them in retaliation for their refusal to work as an informant,” explains the Center for Constitutional Rights, noting that it is difficult to calculate the exact extent of this coercion.
Under this massive program, informants play a critical role in entrapping those individuals targeted. Human Rights Watch concluded in a 2014 study that “nearly 50 percent of the federal counterterrorism convictions since September 11, 2001, resulted from informant-based cases. Almost 30 percent were sting operations in which the informant played an active role in the underlying plot.” The organization notes that discriminatory investigations often target “particularly vulnerable individuals (including people with intellectual and mental disabilities and the indigent), in which the government—often acting through informants—is actively involved in developing the plot, persuading and sometimes pressuring the target to participate, and providing the resources to carry it out.”
This critical background has been omitted from the media narrative of Morton, who has instead emerged as a poster boy for an FBI informant program that supposedly helped him better his life and correct the wrongs of his past.
But as Aaronson put it, “There are 15,000 informants, and most of them are not working for the FBI because they want to turn their lives around. They have been coerced. The coverage of Jesse Morton’s case has been poor for not providing that context. The narrative has been overly simplistic and doesn’t acknowledge that the FBI is not a social welfare agency looking to set people on a good path. It is law enforcement and it will use and abuse people.”
Edited by trakfactri ()
I bring this up because Bolivian coup agent Daza is a member of Leto's spooky cult Echelon, and from the looks of it appears to have been (be?) a leader of the Echelon cult in Bolivia. (There's a LOT more if you search Echelon, but here's just a few screens for example) pic.twitter.com/YmTY34CWyI
— bak (@measure7x) November 14, 2019