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So, Ms. Fluke and the rest of you feminazis, here’s the deal: If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it.

And I’ll tell you what it is. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.



rush limbaugh likely gets boatloads of viagra through his healthcare provider so im awaiting his incoming sex video its gonna be hawt as hell when we see him raping those 13 year old dominican boyz

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It's cool how easy it is for political prties to invent an issue, like all of sudden contraception is really controversial! Now the country is magically polarized into R and D
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i didn't know BHPN was rush limbaugh. we've got quite a celebrity base here
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Beautiful little ad hominum you got there. But seriously, don't do it again.
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rush looks and kind of sounds like penn jillette in that video
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the funniest thing is that he literally doesn't know how hormonal birth control works. "she's having so much sex that she can't afford all the birth control!!" like it were one pill per penetration
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res ipsa loquitur
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Meursault posted:
It's cool how easy it is for political prties to invent an issue, like all of sudden contraception is really controversial! Now the country is magically polarized into R and D


this is why, despite its faults, all else equal I will still cast my precious vote for the democratic party, albeit with hesitation

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yeah amazing how the economy has disappeared behind contraception, abortion, republican said a thing within like a week. i'd say americans are like sheep but most americans don't even vote or care about this puppet show at all.
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I love that liberals get so outraged about someone telling them they're having too much sex and then they go and abort another 10,000 babies with their fingers in their ears yelling "lalalalalallalala".

Limbaugh is pathetic but maybe they could learn something from his appeal to personal responsibility.
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babyhueypnewton posted:
yeah amazing how the economy has disappeared behind contraception, abortion, republican said a thing within like a week. i'd say americans are like sheep but most americans don't even vote or care about this puppet show at all.


obama just proposed cutting the corporate income tax rate

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Poronto
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hmmm yes now we know how often discipline checks her facebook
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how often?
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i would have posted this days ago but i figured everyone would laugh at me for being a handwringing salon.com liberal posting about rush limbaugh saying a thing
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i think we can combat liberals and reactionaries at the same time guys.

just because we acknowledge a republican said a thing doesn't mean we ignore how much american liberalism is shit.
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HenryKrinkle posted:
i think we can combat liberals and reactionaries at the same time guys.

just because we acknowledge a republican said a thing doesn't mean we ignore how much american liberalism is shit.



Nope, if you attack Rush over this you are simply feeding the liberal monster.

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HenryKrinkle posted:
i think we can combat liberals and reactionaries at the same time guys.

just because we acknowledge a republican said a thing doesn't mean we ignore how much american liberalism is shit.



it's amazing that "leftists" can know something is designed to distract them from the systematic issues, know what they're viewing is theater, know that conservatives and democrats are the two sides of the same coin, and still fall for all of it.

it's like the weirdest form of faith, knowing it's not true but still choosing to believe.

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that wddp thread where various "leftists" were defending voting for obama and screaming at anyone who laughed at them as being privileged enough to not vote based on emotion or something was fascinating. far more disturbing than liberals who genuinely believe obama is doing good things and that rush limbaugh matters, it's like people reading an onion article and knowing it's fake but still believing it's real through cognitive dissonance and then getting upset and insulting anyone who might break the dissonance.
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HenryKrinkle posted:
i think we can combat liberals and reactionaries at the same time guys.

just because we acknowledge a republican said a thing doesn't mean we ignore how much american liberalism is shit.


this whole story is about nothing more than someone doing something the other side also does all the time. getting mad at rush for being uncouth and demanding he leave the air doesn't do a thing to address any serious issues

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putting aside the amusing question of men deciding whether or not misogynistic culture is a "serious issue", its also equally true that not being mad at rush and not demanding he leave the air equally doesn't do anything to address any so-called "serious issues". feed the liberal monster, or feed the conservative monster. maybe theres strategic benefit to one of the paths, maybe there isn't. at any rate just consider it to be an inconsequential hobby of mine to wish to see rush limbaugh taken off the air. everyone needs a hobby
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you dont get to speak for queers
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Mike Nelson here.
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thanks for insulting him for being fat and an addict. how about we take a stroll down an emergency ward and you can throw out one-liners about peoples various misfortunes.
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babyhueypnewton posted:
that wddp thread where various "leftists" were defending voting for obama and screaming at anyone who laughed at them as being privileged enough to not vote based on emotion or something was fascinating. far more disturbing than liberals who genuinely believe obama is doing good things and that rush limbaugh matters, it's like people reading an onion article and knowing it's fake but still believing it's real through cognitive dissonance and then getting upset and insulting anyone who might break the dissonance.



when was this i want to read it

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mistersix posted:
putting aside the amusing question of men deciding whether or not misogynistic culture is a "serious issue", its also equally true that not being mad at rush and not demanding he leave the air equally doesn't do anything to address any so-called "serious issues". feed the liberal monster, or feed the conservative monster. maybe theres strategic benefit to one of the paths, maybe there isn't. at any rate just consider it to be an inconsequential hobby of mine to wish to see rush limbaugh taken off the air. everyone needs a hobby



actually this issue, the contraception issue which was created from nothing and is such an obvious bipartisan creation to rile up the right wing for the primaries and the liberals for obama, and every fox news said a thing have completely hijacked the discourse and the election which was as of last week about income inequality, poverty and economic justice, and anti-imperialism wrt Iran. You know, things that matter and deserve your attention and anger. Do you get angry at someone in a TV show saying something offensive? Why is Rush Limbaugh, fat drugged up idiot on AM radio, any more relevant to the bipartisan capitalist elite?

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babyhueypnewton posted:
you dont get to speak for queers



im curious as to whether catchphrases address systemic issues or if they're just theatrics and distractions

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AmericanNazbro posted:
when was this i want to read it


sorry i dont remember what specific thread, maybe someone else can find it. it's just in my brain. i remember it was a thread by that guy who stalks tim wise.

mistersix posted:
im curious as to whether catchphrases address systemic issues or if they're just theatrics and distractions


i fail to see how a clear analysis of the obvious function this outrage serves and it's manufacturing by both sides for their respective bases is somehow invalidated because im a man

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mistersix posted:
putting aside the amusing question of men deciding whether or not misogynistic culture is a "serious issue", its also equally true that not being mad at rush and not demanding he leave the air equally doesn't do anything to address any so-called "serious issues". feed the liberal monster, or feed the conservative monster. maybe theres strategic benefit to one of the paths, maybe there isn't. at any rate just consider it to be an inconsequential hobby of mine to wish to see rush limbaugh taken off the air. everyone needs a hobby



what about complete indifference

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babyhueypnewton posted:

mistersix posted:
putting aside the amusing question of men deciding whether or not misogynistic culture is a "serious issue", its also equally true that not being mad at rush and not demanding he leave the air equally doesn't do anything to address any so-called "serious issues". feed the liberal monster, or feed the conservative monster. maybe theres strategic benefit to one of the paths, maybe there isn't. at any rate just consider it to be an inconsequential hobby of mine to wish to see rush limbaugh taken off the air. everyone needs a hobby

actually this issue, the contraception issue which was created from nothing and is such an obvious bipartisan creation to rile up the right wing for the primaries and the liberals for obama, and every fox news said a thing have completely hijacked the discourse and the election which was as of last week about income inequality, poverty and economic justice, and anti-imperialism wrt Iran. You know, things that matter and deserve your attention and anger. Do you get angry at someone in a TV show saying something offensive? Why is Rush Limbaugh, fat drugged up idiot on AM radio, any more relevant to the bipartisan capitalist elite?



that's always going to happen so long as you're depending on commercial media for your discourse. i dont presume to know what you talk about, or to who, but i myself haven't had any specific problems related to this manufactured outrage in the last week in talking to people about things that matter.

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sometimes u just gotta call a rose a rose and a disgusting fat slob a disgusting fat slob without concern for whether your acknowledgement of such "feeds the liberal monster" it seems a bit weird to be that ridiculously fucking guarded especially on this site where we are all pessimistic leftists anyway
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i think you can frame the uselessness of fighting this particular fight by recalling the ease at which so many of the outlets and people calling for rush's head now used misogynistic slurs against sarah palin, hillary clinton, christine o'donnell, michelle bachmann, etc. this is not at all a fight against patriarchy, it's a fight against the republican radioman
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babyhueypnewton posted:

HenryKrinkle posted:
i think we can combat liberals and reactionaries at the same time guys.

just because we acknowledge a republican said a thing doesn't mean we ignore how much american liberalism is shit.

it's amazing that "leftists" can know something is designed to distract them from the systematic issues, know what they're viewing is theater, know that conservatives and democrats are the two sides of the same coin, and still fall for all of it.

it's like the weirdest form of faith, knowing it's not true but still choosing to believe.



someone can be secure enough in their beliefs, informed enough about systemic issues and realize everything they see is theatre and still enjoy some element of the spectacle. the audacity and absurdity of shit can be amusing, I think it's silly to pretend to be some super revolutionary that's above it all.

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discourse is not neutral, and things you say serve a function. troktsky, despite advocating basically the same policies as Stalin and defender of the USSR as a workers state, served the function of left criticism of successful communism and utopian liberal, so of course it's no surprise his followers are indistinguishable from liberals. orwell is the same, as is every socialist or leftist group/individual who serves to legitimize the system through impotent criticism of the left and right and nihilist defense of the status quo. one of the best things chomsky ever said was that he will never criticize something which serves the propahanda of capitalism (he disregards his own advice by criticizing Chavez but whatever).

criticizing the right wing puppet show, especially people like limbaugh, palin, santorum, o'reilly, basically PEOPLE WHO DO NOT MATTER, serves this same function. no surprise that the "leftists" who criticize obama based on emotion and personal struggle without a systematic understanding end up begrudgingly voting for him.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

mistersix posted:
im curious as to whether catchphrases address systemic issues or if they're just theatrics and distractions


i fail to see how a clear analysis of the obvious function this outrage serves and it's manufacturing by both sides for their respective bases is somehow invalidated because im a man



its not invalidated exactly its just incomplete. in your other post which i have just replied to you seem to indicate that you consider the media as potentially able to be a positive force in aligning discourse, re: poverty, inequality, iran, etc. im skeptical of this in commercial media as i mentioned in the other post. but if its considered possible, then the fact that you include those things in the list, but not misogynistic culture, is questionable and probably related to your limited perspective, being a man who doesn't really have to worry about it.

to give you a flipped example, which is admittedly contentious (ie the ongoing disagreements in the iran thread) i'm not at all convinced that its terribly important to have anti-imperialism re iran as a topic promoted by commercial media. i think the us position on iran is entirely determined by our relationship with them on afghanistan. now, you may say that even if the american public's feelings on iran aren't going to decide consequences such as bombing it or not bombing, its nonetheless better that people have anti-imperialist feelings than imperialist ones. i would agree, and thats analogous to where i'm coming from on rush and anti-misogyny.