i'm not even talking about anyone who would be reading this forum. that's how amazing it is.
aerdil posted:
girls dont exist
ive certainly never seen one
dm posted:
i don't want to talk about it
actually it's fine because i literally have a long thread about all of the shit that's difficult to talk about atm. like i'm kinda disturbed by how much sense this makes:
Myfanwy posted:
I was trying to explain how, when your'e a very conventionally attractive girl, ,the united states both opens and closes for you. When you are a fashion model girl with impeccable personal style, people pay attention to you. People care about things you do that they may hand wave from a fat man or a girl with really bad acne. But, they want you to be a few specific things, and if you aren't those, you basically are ignored until you conform to expectations.
And there is nothing more socially coercive than exclusion. Being ignored hurts.
only instead of appearance it's The Conquest and all of that. the pressure isn't just from other guys either! it's like "no, seriously, i really don't want to treat you like that" and when i don't it's like there might be something wrong with me because The Conquest is always supposed to be about repetition.
dm posted:
i don't want to talk about it
I just didn't know if specifically in this thread, over all on this forum or another forum, or actually in real life. Sorry if I'm being too inquisitive here
dm posted:
the best part about trying to be genuinely non-threatening and understanding is that it makes me automatically suspect. it's like "there must be a catch here." and there totally is even if it's not what i'm doing at all.
i'm not even talking about anyone who would be reading this forum. that's how amazing it is.
if you radiate love you must also radiate a certain.. confidence. sometimes you can make it up with looks, certain people just 'look' more trustable, attractive people frequently have that quality (like patrick bate-men). but i know plenty of males that have this sort of universalized 'love' down, they just have to back it up with some sort of strength of conviction and confidence. just keep your head up, people's insecurities aren't your faults, that's the key to remember.
i know very well that you know this, as its just sort of a longer way of saying what you said at the top of the page. i felt like pontificating, postesis
Crow posted:dm posted:
the best part about trying to be genuinely non-threatening and understanding is that it makes me automatically suspect. it's like "there must be a catch here." and there totally is even if it's not what i'm doing at all.
i'm not even talking about anyone who would be reading this forum. that's how amazing it is.if you radiate love you must also radiate a certain.. confidence. sometimes you can make it up with looks, certain people just 'look' more trustable, attractive people frequently have that quality (like patrick bate-men). but i know plenty of males that have this sort of universalized 'love' down, they just have to back it up with some sort of strength of conviction and confidence. just keep your head up, people's insecurities aren't your faults, that's the key to remember.
thanks, that gets pretty much right to the heart of it. also notice that you didn't have to ask that question. you know the one. that's good because it's really awkward when i give people the answer that would have made asking it pointless anyways. pretty awkward, but not on our part. it's like you're supposed to wear a belt with notches in it for all of the "kills" you've collected and i'm supposed to feel naked if i don't bring it along with me
i'm just coming out of a pretty bad depression and it's like waking back up to all sorts of weird shit about the world again. friends are trying to set me up, which is fine, but i'm remembering all of the dumb shit too and it's actually kinda funny. i may have to go along but i don't have to do it quietly!
e: here is a picture of me for rhizzone btw because everyone is always curious anyways
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deadken posted:
the Conquest is always a phyrric victory; in the long run it produces nothing but misery. this is what nobody wants to admit, because the conquest is our master-signifier, we have succeeded in reducing everything down to the libidinal. the thing is that it's true. the rock of our church is suspended in a void. we need a new lie
that reminds me of a phrase that C. Wright Mills coined after reading The Second Sex when it was originally published:
In so far as an economy is so arranged that slumps occur, the problem of unemployment becomes incapable of personal solution. In so far as war is inherent in the nation-state system and in the uneven industrialization of the world, the ordinary individual in her restricted milieu will be powerless - with or without psychiatric aid - to solve the troubles this system or lack of system imposes upon him. In so far as the family as an institution turns women into darling little slaves and men into their chief providers and unweaned dependents, the problem of a satisfactory marriage remains incapable of purely private solution. In so far as the overdeveloped megalopolis and the overdeveloped automobile are built-in features of the overdeveloped society, the issues of urban living will not be solved by personal ingenuity and private wealth.
deadken posted:
my pet name for my dick is Mr. Praxis
my pet name for my diarhea shits is deadken the gay child
babyfinland posted:deadken posted:
my pet name for my dick is Mr. Praxismy pet name for my diarhea shits is deadken the gay child
thats rly creepy
Some Aussie sexuality for y'all/
aerdil posted:
cum to san francisco instead so we can COnquest each other
so that's why you want to buy me a drink then, is it? and i thought you cared about my personality
deadken posted:
yeah thats true, gender relations are Beyond Fucked, the satisfactory marriage is impossible, & thats because patriarchy hurts men too... i get yelled at occasionally for saying it but its still true, to a lesser degree maybe but i don't really think you can quantify mass psychological distortion. i support womens struggle but i do so from across an insuperable chasm... every time i commit Conquest it's further impressed on me how alienated we all are from each other, how intimacy has become a function of alienation...
nah, you just dont wanna believe that your 'suffering' is a juvenile personal problem. love is possible, but it's never what kids think it is. love isnt possible for those that talk in terms of "conquest" or w/e. you've let stupid kid thinking infect you, and it's gonna take years to shake it off. believe me, ive been there too
"the" human condition? hah!
HANDY
animedad posted:deadken posted:
yeah thats true, gender relations are Beyond Fucked, the satisfactory marriage is impossible, & thats because patriarchy hurts men too... i get yelled at occasionally for saying it but its still true, to a lesser degree maybe but i don't really think you can quantify mass psychological distortion. i support womens struggle but i do so from across an insuperable chasm... every time i commit Conquest it's further impressed on me how alienated we all are from each other, how intimacy has become a function of alienation...nah, you just dont wanna believe that your 'suffering' is a juvenile personal problem. love is possible, but it's never what kids think it is. love isnt possible for those that talk in terms of "conquest" or w/e. you've let stupid kid thinking infect you, and it's gonna take years to shake it off. believe me, ive been there too
"the" human condition? hah!
idk man, maybe what he's saying is juvenile (i don't read his posts) but i'm pretty sure his feelings are genuine and can't be solved by 'dispelling illusions' or whatever