Ironicwarcriminal posted:At least he had the bravery to exploit the third world proletariat face to face though. That’s possibly more commendable than the western masses who will never gaze upon the dead eyes and pricked fingers of the Foxconn workers who facilitate Katy Perry’s consumerist anthems into their ears.
YEAH!!
gyrofry posted:are you denying that buying ipods is wrong
we must smash the apple storefront and steal the ipods for the revolution!
ok cool, you think the world is a shitty place and im an asshole for participating in it instead of joining a commune and purging myself of male, white, hetero, cis privilege that's fine. but don't drag it out into every thread and attack me passively, it just makes the forum worse and i don't really care what you think about my personality. just let it go, i don't even really care about the issue.
babyhueypnewton posted:futurewidow posted:
there's valid criticism and there's WDDP style criticism. you fucked up, you brought it up, you're not sorry in the least bit and now you're whining that people called you on your shit while threatening to go post elsewhere.
everybody knows the structures and systems at play, you didn't add anything new or insightful about the plight of prostitutes in the Philippines you just told us they're prettier than expected. you're using a system of oppression as an excuse not to engage criticism and it's dumb as shit.Actually this post:
futurewidow posted:
how dare women get angry at the exploitation of 3rd world women, how dare they
is peak WDDP. It's passive aggressive, angry at some post that hasn't even been made, full of identity politics on an internet forum (I have no idea if you're even a woman) and just plain obnoxious.
your follow up post is the typical response, to then attack me by saying "well you didn't add anything anyway your OP sucked" when I remember perfectly clearly you didn't add anything interesting to the thread, and the OP had plenty of ideas for interesting discussion. that is such a cop out, you're just annoyed that I'm not riled up I guess.
there's a difference between discussion of oppression as a system, which is fine, and personal attacks for being part of a system of oppression. here's a news flash in case you never leave the house: being with a bunch of guys, alchohol, and girls will result in unequal power relations and people don't use proper gendered pronouns and watching their cisprivelege in a club. when it just becomes a personal attack on me, when i've already acknowledged that the situation i was in caused me to act in ways that contributed to oppression, does nothing except show bitterness and vindictive lashing out.
ya, agreed
babyhueypnewton posted:futurewidow posted:
there's valid criticism and there's WDDP style criticism. you fucked up, you brought it up, you're not sorry in the least bit and now you're whining that people called you on your shit while threatening to go post elsewhere.
everybody knows the structures and systems at play, you didn't add anything new or insightful about the plight of prostitutes in the Philippines you just told us they're prettier than expected. you're using a system of oppression as an excuse not to engage criticism and it's dumb as shit.Actually this post:
futurewidow posted:
how dare women get angry at the exploitation of 3rd world women, how dare they
is peak WDDP. It's passive aggressive, angry at some post that hasn't even been made, full of identity politics on an internet forum (I have no idea if you're even a woman) and just plain obnoxious.
your follow up post is the typical response, to then attack me by saying "well you didn't add anything anyway your OP sucked" when I remember perfectly clearly you didn't add anything interesting to the thread, and the OP had plenty of ideas for interesting discussion. that is such a cop out, you're just annoyed that I'm not riled up I guess.
there's a difference between discussion of oppression as a system, which is fine, and personal attacks for being part of a system of oppression. here's a news flash in case you never leave the house: being with a bunch of guys, alchohol, and girls will result in unequal power relations and people don't use proper gendered pronouns and watching their cisprivelege in a club. when it just becomes a personal attack on me, when i've already acknowledged that the situation i was in caused me to act in ways that contributed to oppression, does nothing except show bitterness and vindictive lashing out.
Hahaha are you for real? Check yo privilege.
I'm not sure how futurewidow is being passive-aggressive, and this “things happen when you mix bros and alcohol” excuse is super, super lame by the way.
babyhueypnewton posted:
to me this is like that wddp thread about porn where you had all these sadbrains come in and talk about how they only watch female friendly/exploitation free porn and they were still torn into and castrated by the posters with a higher oppression score. there was even one dude who admitted he was miserable and suicidal because of the guilt he felt from his privilege and his passive role in systems of oppression.
ok cool, you think the world is a shitty place and im an asshole for participating in it instead of joining a commune and purging myself of male, white, hetero, cis privilege that's fine. but don't drag it out into every thread and attack me passively, it just makes the forum worse and i don't really care what you think about my personality. just let it go, i don't even really care about the issue.
i am totally wrong and you're right and i,m making a note of this right now
futurewidow posted:
i am totally wrong and you're right and i,m making a note of this right now
i disagree about you being totally wrong the truth is somewhere in the middle
discipline posted:babyhueypnewton posted:
ok cool, you think the world is a shitty place and im an asshole for participating in it instead of joining a commune and purging myself of male, white, hetero, cis privilege that's fine.lol no one's asking you to do all that but raping a filipino woman was pretty bad man and saying you feel really bad about it and think it was gross and shameful is not like sentencing you to hard labor or even really subjecting you to anything half as painful as the life she lives every single day
but this is exactly what im talking about. i wouldn't have a problem if it was actually used to discuss things or even attack me as acting unconsciously as an agent of privilege. but it's not. what actually happened is distorted and lied about and then it become "raping a filipino woman". how am i supposed to respond except to laugh at how pathetic it is that a bunch of people who have no idea who i am irl have a vested interest in lying to try and make me feel bad.
Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Also Huey the reason it keeps getting brought up is the gap between your take-no-prisoners righteous fury trot theory rhetoric and “stop playa hatin’” dismissals of your complicity in the world’s social evils.
no but calling me a rapist, a mysoginist, a creep, an exploiter, etc just sounds like losers complaining about frat dudes
EmanuelaOrlandi posted:fuk katy perri
heather owns
babyhueypnewton posted:discipline posted:babyhueypnewton posted:
ok cool, you think the world is a shitty place and im an asshole for participating in it instead of joining a commune and purging myself of male, white, hetero, cis privilege that's fine.lol no one's asking you to do all that but raping a filipino woman was pretty bad man and saying you feel really bad about it and think it was gross and shameful is not like sentencing you to hard labor or even really subjecting you to anything half as painful as the life she lives every single day
but this is exactly what im talking about. i wouldn't have a problem if it was actually used to discuss things or even attack me as acting unconsciously as an agent of privilege. but it's not. what actually happened is distorted and lied about and then it become "raping a filipino woman". how am i supposed to respond except to laugh at how pathetic it is that a bunch of people who have no idea who i am irl have a vested interest in lying to try and make me feel bad.
Sorry, you're right. You're definitely the victim in all this, when will these harridans stop trying to punish us for our masculinity?
discipline posted:
did you or did you not pay a woman's pimp to have sex with her? I am radfem and that is Rape
that's not at all what happened and you chose your words carefully to paint me in the worst possible light. you clearly have no interest in being honest. guess this dumb personal feud between me and a few posters will continue until somebody gets banned
gyrofry posted:
heather owns
check out my friend from prs band they rule http://soundcloud.com/radiorahill/sweetest-talk-demo-2
Ironicwarcriminal posted:babyhueypnewton posted:futurewidow posted:
there's valid criticism and there's WDDP style criticism. you fucked up, you brought it up, you're not sorry in the least bit and now you're whining that people called you on your shit while threatening to go post elsewhere.
everybody knows the structures and systems at play, you didn't add anything new or insightful about the plight of prostitutes in the Philippines you just told us they're prettier than expected. you're using a system of oppression as an excuse not to engage criticism and it's dumb as shit.Actually this post:
futurewidow posted:
how dare women get angry at the exploitation of 3rd world women, how dare they
is peak WDDP. It's passive aggressive, angry at some post that hasn't even been made, full of identity politics on an internet forum (I have no idea if you're even a woman) and just plain obnoxious.
your follow up post is the typical response, to then attack me by saying "well you didn't add anything anyway your OP sucked" when I remember perfectly clearly you didn't add anything interesting to the thread, and the OP had plenty of ideas for interesting discussion. that is such a cop out, you're just annoyed that I'm not riled up I guess.
there's a difference between discussion of oppression as a system, which is fine, and personal attacks for being part of a system of oppression. here's a news flash in case you never leave the house: being with a bunch of guys, alchohol, and girls will result in unequal power relations and people don't use proper gendered pronouns and watching their cisprivelege in a club. when it just becomes a personal attack on me, when i've already acknowledged that the situation i was in caused me to act in ways that contributed to oppression, does nothing except show bitterness and vindictive lashing out.
Hahaha are you for real? Check yo privilege.
I'm not sure how futurewidow is being passive-aggressive, and this “things happen when you mix bros and alcohol” excuse is super, super lame by the way.
im surprised by you though iwc, you constantly complain about how devotion to far left politics infringes on real life enjoyment and how regulating yourself to avoid any complicity in systems of oppression is both pointless and cowardly.
noavbazzer posted:
Lol the one thread in this forum about going outside and attempting to proactively do something
But when people in this forum do go out and “do something” it means third world sex-tourism so this whole discussion is refuting the OP.
I think it’s relevant.
babyhueypnewton posted:
no but calling me a rapist, a mysoginist, a creep, an exploiter, etc just sounds like losers complaining about frat dudes
instead it's just women complaining about you paying $$ to sleep with our sisters
you're pretty much a maoist, right dude? can I explain why this was upsetting in the first place? it's more like a betrayal than anything and it's something women come across all the time. guys have great politics, they know their theory and even great organizational skills but when it comes to women they're just as skeevy and opportunistic as any other guy and are seemingly unable to accept any criticism about it
it's really weird that your "real life enjoyment" involves sleeping with prostitutes
changin' it up a bit