#1
like 30 guys have waved pro-shah signs in the streets + now your fave pundits and trump are saying we have to support the "peaceful democratic protesters" or something, apparently also some al-queda wannabes blew up a pipeline so we know who the new moderate rebels are going to be

who's ready for NATO airstrikes
#2
i for one am completely shocked at the completely inconceivable event of the united states deposing the democratically elected government of iran and installing a theocratic dictatorship led by the shah. again.
#3
[account deactivated]
#4
moon of alabama(who im not too familiar with, any opinions on how reliable they tend to be?) seems to think that there were some legit small protests based on economic trouble that have been subsequently hijacked and enlarged into more of a colour revolution style movement by the US and friends

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/12/iran-regime-change-agents-hijack-economic-protests-.html posted:

Protests against the (neo-)liberal economic policies of the Rohani government in Iran are justified. Official unemployment in Iran is above 12% and there is hardly any economic growth. The people in the streets are not the only ones who are dissatisfied with this:

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has repeatedly criticized the government’s economic record, said on Wednesday that the nation was struggling with “high prices, inflation and recession”, and asked officials to resolve the problems with determination.

On Thursday and today the slogans of some protesters turned the call for economic relief into a call for regime change.

My hunch is that the usual suspects are behind these protests. Note that these started in several cities at the same time. This was not some spontaneous local uproar in one city but had some form of coordination.

Then there is this:

Carl Bildt‏ @carlbildt - 9:38 PM - 28 Dec 2017 from Rome, Lazio

Reports of signals of international satellite TV networks jammed in large cities of Iran. Would be sign of regime fear of today’s protests spreading.

A search in various languages finds exactly zero such "reports". Carl Bildt is a former Swedish prime minister. He was recruited in 1973 as a CIA informant and has since grown into a full blown U.S. asset. He was involved in the Ukraine coup and tried to personally profit from it.

...

Some of these protests have genuine economic reasons but get hijacked by other interests:

In the central city of Isfahan, a resident said protesters joined a rally held by factory workers demanding back wages.

“The slogans quickly changed from the economy to those against (President Hassan) Rouhani and the Supreme Leader (Ayatollah Ali Khamenei),” the resident said by telephone.
...
Purely political protests are rare in Iran but demonstrations are often held by workers over layoffs or non-payment of salaries and people who hold deposits in non-regulated, bankrupt financial institutions.
...
Alamolhoda, the representative of Ayatollah Khamenei in northeastern Mashhad, said a few people had taken advantage of Thursday’s protests against rising prices to chant slogans against Iran’s role in regional conflicts.
...
“Some people had came to express their demands, but suddenly, in a crowd of hundreds, a small group that did not exceed 50 shouted deviant and horrendous slogans such as ‘Let go of Palestine’, ‘Not Gaza, not Lebanon, I’d give my life (only) for Iran’,” Alamolhoda said.

Two videos posted by BBC Persian and others I have seen show only small active protest groups with a dozen or so people while many more are just standing by or film the people who are chanting slogans.

#5
I posted this in the other thread

swampman posted:

"*sorry, did not mean protestors in the first tweet, I mean *users* as in social media users"

"Rouhani said that there were six "fraudulent institutions" controlling 25% of Iran's currency market. He added that they were manipulating the exchange rate and also the gold market. Rouhani said he met personally with Khamenei and told him that the lives of 3 to 4 million people are being wasted due to the actions of these "fraudulent institutions," which some Iranian media have referred to as a "mafia of financial institutions." Rouhani said that when they went after these funds and people involved in these financial activities, they suddenly started receiving letters and requests from various institutions to reinstate the people who had been removed from their positions and began "applying pressure." Rouhani also said that there were people in various government funded institutions who were receiving money with no supervision, divided among family members, and he put an end to it in this year's budget which he just gave. He asked parliament for help in reducing this funds and helping install some supervision on how the money is spent. He said if this process of unsupervised spending of random funds continues, the next administration will not be able to operate."


Last night people were posting about armed provocateurs going around "protesting" by setting fire to multiple (at least 9) state-run banks. Imagine if Occupy Wall Street had been torching banks lmao

#6
[account deactivated]
#7
A general 'Color Rev' thread would be useful to keep up to speed on tactics and strategies

Thus far Iran is matching the template of Syria Ukraine etc closely
#8

glomper_stomper posted:

the idea of a "color revolution", backed by nato and ultra-right/proxy mercenaries, is somewhat outdated considering they've run out of good colors


agreed

#9
The Shah-mpagne Revolution?

So far we've seen:

distributed protests of tiny groups of petty bouge students or ethno nationalists heavily infiltrated by agent provocateurs day 1 chanting "death to the regime" day 2 blocking main roads with burning tires day 3 & 4 Molotov cocktails snipers burning government offices hijacking fire engines

Yes they have run out of ideas but, like bombing places, it doesn't mean they don't do it anyway (and its early to say what the US will do)

There isn't good language to describe this process: whatever problems/fractures within the target society which are exploited by outside powers... How to see and say what's going on and still come up with solutions is tricky
#10
there was real economic distress in syria in 2011 as well u know

otoh the level to which the US can hijack such protests in iran is probably quite limited as evidenced by the failure of the green revolution. and it'll probably remain the case unless an actual civil war breaks out. and most of your actual reactionaries would probably throw their lot in with the government surely
#11
PSL on Iran - Hands Off Iran also the protests are probably bad
https://www.liberationnews.org/what-to-make-of-irans-demonstrations/

Spoiler!


#12
Protests/riots dying down.
I think it shows hostile powers that their aggression against Iran will not work.

In contrast to the Iranian communist party in exile calling for overthrow of the regime, this is what the Lebanese Communist party said about Hezbollah during the 2006 Israeli war:

The Bush administration is in a hurry to remove Hezbollah’s armaments. Six months ago Condoleezza Rice came to Lebanon and advertised that the patience of the U.S. has run out, and that America will effectuate this its own way. So it was clear to all of us, including Hezbollah, that Israel would do this war.

They imagined that Israel in a week or two would completely finish Hezbollah. The opposite happened; therefore, the opinion of people in Lebanon and the entire world began to change.

As a communist party, we see Hezbollah as a very important national resistance. It is trying to liberate the occupied land, liberate the Lebanese political prisoners in Israel, and defend Lebanese borders, because the Lebanese government is completely unable to take care of these matters.

We as a party from the very beginning aided Hezbollah in their resistance. From the beginning of the war we declared a mobilization in the party in support of Hezbollah, and we took the responsibility of political action to explain to the parties and to the people outside the truth of the matter inside Lebanon. Our comrades aided in the defense of areas in the South, and we lost 10 martyrs and four close friends. Internally we conducted aid operations to the refugees and we took the responsibility of operating inside Lebanon politically to preserve Lebanese unity in the face of the enemy.

There is much talk about Hezbollah’s armaments—is it realistic that there remains an armed party in Lebanon? At present the answer is very simple. There ought to be a nation that all participate in, and that takes responsibility for defending the country. That’s what Hezbollah says, and that’s what we say, and that’s what all thinking people say in this country. But the fact is that this nation does not exist. The only solution is that we build this nation, that we change the politics that we have at present—the sect-oriented regime in Lebanon.

There was a project of Arab national liberation but it failed. These movements met a huge attack from the imperialists. The Marxists have had to confront a great tragedy with the loss of the Soviet Union. As a result, in this area the religious parties have taken power, and took on the same attitudes.

Hezbollah has taken on the liberation of the land and the nation. Even though we as a party had a confrontation with Hezbollah in the 1980s, Hezbollah has developed its methods in a way that has been very clear and speaks our language. Therefore we and Hezbollah are in total agreement about things in this period of time. That doesn’t mean that our disagreements have ended, and therefore we work hard to bring close to us and empower the positive side of Hezbollah.

We had warned that if Hezbollah did not win, there would be a great tragedy in the land, because if Hezbollah were defeated then the attitude and reality of resistance would have been defeated.


http://iacenter.org/archive-2006/leb_heb-cp0906.htm
#13
after spending consederable time sorting out the truth from the weight of western propaganda, the slurry of trot opinions and those people who think any time anyone protests about anything its CIA my opinion is that
#14
MEK and IRGC should hold a joint Rally To Restore Sanity in Tehran against conspiracy theorists on both sides
#15
#16
No, IM agreeing with YOU!
#17
oh leave me alone
#18
congrats on winning twitter
#19
The best argument that these are completely organic protests is that the CIA wouldn't kick things off right after Oscar season.
#20
US Homeland Security/NSA guy demands Iranian rebels be armed with advanced IEDs as "revenge" for IED attacks against Americans in Iraq

https://lawfareblog.com/best-served-cold-responding-iranian-protests

Some of the ethnic rebel groups in Iran who are being armed by the West and are currently engaged in armed insurgency there:

http://m.hindustantimes.com/world-news/free-balochistan-campaign-comes-to-new-york-s-times-square/story-bcV377u55nybA9vzwdqaoK.html

https://anfenglish.com/kurdistan/pjak-calls-on-peoples-of-iran-to-fight-and-stand-together-23940

US Colour Revolution laboratory designing campaigns with focus groups of ethnic exiles

http://theduran.com/forget-gene-sharp-john-carlarne-is-the-new-color-revolution-chief/

MEK
Documentary about how the MEK were the chief torturers of Iranians captured by Saddam, then they were the main & most loyal shock troops in killing the southern Shia and Northern Kurds who rose up in 91



The US state dept studied this in 94 and agreed
http://iran-interlink.org/wordpress/?p=163

By 2002 the MEK were already working with the CIA and Mossad against Iran; they have been the source of 'Iranian nuclear revelations' since then, and were responsible for infecting nuclear computer systems there with the Stuxnet virus
http://www.isssource.com/stuxnet-loaded-by-iran-double-agents/

After 2003 Saddam's MEK bases "Camp Liberty" etc were put under US protection.
From at least 2005 they were flown out to the US and other places for military training
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/our-men-in-iran/amp

After a multi million $$ lobbying campaign they were taken off the Terrorist list by Hilary Clinton in 2012
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/21/iran-mek-group-removed-us-terrorism-list

Their supporters include 21 Nobel prize laureates campaigning for the "human rights of the MEK refugees in Iraq"
https://iranfreedom.org/en/human-rights/1796-call-on-u-n-nobel-laureates-condemn-executions-by-iran-regime-perpetrators-must-be-held-accountable

They organise massive conferences in Paris with a-list Politicians in attendance

https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/freeiran2017


One of their most outspoken US politicians is California senator Dana rohrsbacher.
In the 80s this guy was flying out to Afghanistan to take pictures on a horse with a turban and ak47

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/04/dana-rohrabacher-afghanistan-war/

In 2017 he praised the ISIS attack on Tehran's parliament, and said the US should 'use' ISIS more
https://www.google.ie/url?q=http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/337274-gop-lawmaker-wasnt-isis-terror-attack-in-iran-a-good-thing&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwivr7uD-b7YAhXDDcAKHRNhCv8QFggLMAA&usg=AOvVaw2djv285dNIfXFFtiXTICO7

For Shah monarchists, the CIA released the cables on how Kermit, their man in Tehran, pulled off the 53 coup (fake protests etc)
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/20/64-years-later-cia-finally-releases-details-of-iranian-coup-iran-tehran-oil/


Here's a review of a French language book which apparently detailed every 'cyberactivism' training program the US ran in the Arab region before the "Spring" and tracked the activists as they became stars

https://www.mondialisation.ca/the-arab-spring-us-black-ops-and-subversion/5520302

I can't find much info on an important factor which I'm sure is happening: Facebook studies of Occupy/Spring uprisings and workshopping how to catalyse them with Intel agencies.
Closest I could find is internal US State Dept/Google emails where they develop 'tools' to promote detection and demoralisation of the Syrian gov
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/337269-clinton-google-aljazeera-assad-plot/
#21
im just gonna assume the economic issues are the fault of US sanctions and that however widespread the protests are the western media will still overstate them. also im gonna say fuck to the imperialists who by "standing with the iranian people" really mean "god willing i can finally live my dream of seeing the destruction of the islamic republic"

also why are the shahs kids still running around, that didnt happen with the romanovs
#22
thats a lotta links
#23
Pantone® Color Revolution Chart
#24
Xipe you are tireless. I really appreciate all the investigation that you share
#25
sign me up for the xipe newsletter
#26
awww thanks
its easier in the long run to get the info out than keep it in, piecemeal

another factor is the new CIA station chief for iran installed 6 months ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/world/middleeast/cia-iran-dark-prince-michael-dandrea.html
he had spent the years previous to that kidnapping & torturing people, assassinating with car bombs and giving children in afghani-pakistani villages PTSD from constantly flying & bombing with drones
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iran-protests-donald-trump-michael-dandrea-us-opposition-hassan-rouhani-reform-violence-riots-a8141271.html

for a mixed bag of other info: this iranian student has collected lots of film footage of events and protests in iran


i also like this guy... he answers questions below it

https://curiouscat.me/irmilitaryvlog

iranian professor mohammed marandi also has interesting things to say about the region


hassan nasrallah did an interview with almayadeen tv recently, this is some of what he said about the iran protests


(it was several hours long! a rough transcript was made herehttps://twitter.com/les_politiques/status/948623946684932101 )
#27
took these pics of the Sydney Morning Herald international section today

they're not even trying man


#28
The Strayan published my favourite low-effort take so far http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/western-women-turn-a-blind-eye-to-iranian-struggle/news-story/7f7f376b2de82d52f523aae82df7f985?nk=2d87030dbf97a952833bd7526d91576f-1515253453

Western women turn a blind eye to Iranian struggle

It is one of the great conundrums of Western feminism: why are we so excited to stand up for Muslim women, except when they live in the Middle East?

Show us a woman in Sydney who wants to cover her hair or swim behind a modesty curtain, you’ll have Western women ­fighting and writing for her right to so do.

Show us a woman standing bravely without her hijab on a street corner in Tehran?

Crickets.

Why?

#29
[account deactivated]