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that sounds cool, awaiting access to le pdf forum
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wuyong posted:

Are the mods cool with that? Copyright and everything.


Yes nobody cares abt cop6yright

#15124
That sounds good as hell and copyright is theft
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The criticism of anti-Zionism always includes, "well what should the eastern European Jews have done during the pogroms?" This jumps past analysis to the distribution of moral blame and does it through this restricted set of counterfactuals but still I think deserves an answer; even Herzl at first believed that integration was preferable, only not possible in existing circumstances. Of course political Zionism as this wholly pragmatic non-ideological strategy was never a dominant current, and Herzl himself further justified it as a colonial and Eurosupremacist project. However just saying "pogroms are bad but two wrongs don't make a right" doesn't seem like a complete answer to me.
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Eric D. Wolf - Peasant wars of the twentieth century
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Caesura109 posted:

Anyways I want to try reading Marcuse next, wanted to know what ya'll Maoists and Marxist-Leninists thought of him



read adorno instead, marcuse is basically obselete now. better yet, read neither, and read old gegenstandpunkt articles instead

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read everything
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im reading one of pratchetts last discworld books. its about steam engines and railroads being invented and its hugely frustrating that he brushes aside all sorts of labor tensions by having golems and goblins who just Love to Work. they toil ceaselessly and dont even take time off when theyre told to. its like damn man way to miss the fundamental conflict of an industrializing society.

but im only 100 pages in so maybe that changes? of course the extent of his class analysis is basically this:

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.

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tears posted:

Eric D. Wolf - Peasant wars of the twentieth century


whats this like, i want to learn more about peasant uprisings

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TG posted:

im reading one of pratchetts last discworld books. its about steam engines and railroads being invented and its hugely frustrating that he brushes aside all sorts of labor tensions by having golems and goblins who just Love to Work. they toil ceaselessly and dont even take time off when theyre told to. its like damn man way to miss the fundamental conflict of an industrializing society.

but im only 100 pages in so maybe that changes? of course the extent of his class analysis is basically this:



The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.


terry pratchett is lame and is one of the main authors(along with like douglas adams or someone probably) to have lead to a resurgence in people smoking pipes

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lo posted:

tears posted:

Eric D. Wolf - Peasant wars of the twentieth century

whats this like, i want to learn more about peasant uprisings


328 pages long, nice but utilitarian cover illustration, passable font in a good size for reading, index works well, references properly formatted, hth

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Anyone serious about Zionism would have moved to Zion, the last human city on the planet Earth after a cataclysmic nuclear war between mankind and sentient machines. That this was not even a consideration for these so called socialists should reveal the real settler colonial logic of zionism.
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jools posted:

read adorno instead, marcuse is basically obselete now.



I think Marcuse is worth reading if you have the time but I more or less agree with this, if you do read his stuff realize it was mostly written to explain a bygone time when powerful private sector trade unions exercised significant influence over most economically important industries in the United States, it's one reason that Marcuse appealed to what Roszak would call "the counterculture", the whole Nixon-union thing, Marcuse's more a historical record of a failed approach to analysis than anything else

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tears posted:

328 pages long, nice but utilitarian cover illustration, passable font in a good size for reading, index works well, references properly formatted, hth



these are my actual criteria for medical textbooks

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lo posted:

terry pratchett is lame and is one of the main authors(along with like douglas adams or someone probably) to have lead to a resurgence in people smoking pipes



*packs a meerschaum with some primo cavendish, lights it up, and blows some sweet smoke rings in your face* your lame

#15137
today I read a Yellow Peril yuks/scare story from The Economist about differing attitudes toward unmarried men and women in China, then a post from a liberal on Twitter replying that it would all balance out as the barbarians would just force more Chinese lesbians to marry men
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tears posted:

Anyone serious about Zionism would have moved to Zion, the last human city on the planet Earth after a cataclysmic nuclear war between mankind and sentient machines. That this was not even a consideration for these so called socialists should reveal the real settler colonial logic of zionism.


#15139
im reading N.B. Turner's “Is China an Imperialist Country: Considerations and Evidence” because i read a recent review from mim(prisons) https://www.prisoncensorship.info/article/china-2017-socialist-or-imperialist/ and thought it would be good to read some economic things about china and well its hard to see how someone could fuck this up so badly, i have already been informed that i am a conspiracy theorist for thinking that ISIS had anything to do with the USA and that supporting the destruction of libya is in line to lenins theory of revolutionary defeatism....where do they find these people, what is going on
#15140
Wow... Glad whoever said that was put in prison for it
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That pamphlet is hilarious. also there's a new book by Sakai coming out soon but I can't remember what it's called or about or who's publishing it

e: http://kersplebedeb.com/posts/the-dangerous-clas/

J. Sakai’s ground-breaking, The “Dangerous Class” and Revolutionary Theory: Thoughts on the Making of the Lumpen/Proletariat, is our first major exploration of this most controversial and least understood “non-class” in revolutionary politics. It is an attempt to unknot the puzzle. It encompasses the threads of criminality as well as gender, of breaking social boundaries and eating the bitterest of class politics.
At all times, the author interrogates the forming of left theory on this “dangerous class” by the highway flare of his own experiences, and more importantly the mass violent liberation wars of the 1950s-1960s. This is not a memoir, though, but an explanation of how anti-capitalist class theory is hammered out while red-hot.



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littlegreenpills posted:

J. Sakai’s ground-breaking, The “Dangerous Class” and Revolutionary Theory: Thoughts on the Making of the Lumpen/Proletariat, is our first major exploration of this most controversial and least understood “non-class” in revolutionary politics. It is an attempt to unknot the puzzle.




im stoked

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tears posted:

where do they find these people, what is going on


over-under on 90% of "leftists" in the USA are government assets?

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colddays posted:

tears posted:

where do they find these people, what is going on

over-under on 90% of "leftists" in the USA are government assets?


i think theyve just fallen far too deep into the rabbithole i am christening "trotskyism with little red book characteristics"

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accidental assets
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glomper_stomper posted:

the frantic hand-wringing and pearl-clutching over owen jones and russell brand being cyberbullied by SJWs was particularly pathetic



especially since brand didn't go along with it and was like, i screwed up. fisher had weird, very Online blind spots that i've brought up here before

#15150
Not sure if its actually shipped, but I preordered Sakai's new book so get ready for some "hot takes" from the big J
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also im reading https://crimethinc.com/2017/08/08/total-policing-total-defiance-the-2017-g20-and-the-battle-of-hamburg-a-full-account-and-analysis

Anarchists seem really obsessed with the aesthetic of Resistance rather than actual effective demonstration. This entire chronicle is them lauding their fellow anarchists for getting flattened by the cops all the time
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i read 'the morning deluge: mao and the chinese revolution' which was a nice biography/history of mao up to the korean war. found it very informative since i wasn't too clear on lots of the finer details of the chinese situation. its especially good at emphasising the scale of events - i wasn't really aware how many people got killed by the kmts white terror for example. also had a lot of good stuff on ideological disputes within the party, although at times because it's taking a retrospective view i wasnt entirely clear on why a particular opponent of mao held a particular view. but pretty good book generally i think.
#15153
For shits and giggles I decided to hate-read a little more of that Connor KilpatricKKK piece in Jacobin that was making the rounds to see just how bad it was and it's somehow even worse than you'd imagine

Nothing catches the eye like gold set against red. And in the great war of the twentieth century, the color scheme was on both sides of the divide — the Soviet hammer and sickle, McDonald’s golden arches.



The book I'm on ATM is Losurdo's counter history of liberalism which is extremely good as he pulls no punches in showing how the ideology was unapologetically bound up in slavery, exterminism, eugenics, etc. right from the jump. I am excited for wuyong's translation of the Stalin book to come out.

#15154
reading this extremely cool blog called 'the espresso stalinist' by some guy who uses an avatar of dr doom from the marvel comics and likes enver hoxha. i can only assume he already posts here https://espressostalinist.com/
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Frazier
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i bought blitzed because people keep talking about it, and hobswarms primitive rebels, and a bunch of gi joe memoirs of the vietnam war - mark barker, robert mason, tim o brien; also i am reading capital volume 2
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glomper_stomper posted:

by his own definition of imperialism, a good number of states would fit the bill, like syria, turkey, iran, and brazil, but are manifestly not imperialist "great powers" whatsoever.


i guess this is consistent with the position on libya that tears posted about

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#15159
At least the LRB published Seymour Hersh when nobody else would, when has Jakobin done anything like that?
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