#241

jools posted:

Tsargon posted:

Groulxsmith posted:

le pen is not remotely a neo-nazi

the fn was the only party with a clear anti-eu, anti-globalization, pro sovereign currency platform and it's not hard to fault people for being attracted to that in the face of frankfurt and brussels governing your future

(certain) people have been saying this for a while now and recent events have only underlined the fact that the national line is the only real method of defense against international capital. the internal logic of capitalism, which is to say a constant march towards further centralization and accumulation, dictates that the national form must be erased as much as possible, and the natural counter-weight against such a tendency is the far right and its emphasis on the nation.



melenchon kind of shares your analysis without the far right stuff



Yeah but the left can't claim to truly care about national or cultural identity after a century of trying to tear these things down.

#242

jools posted:

Tsargon posted:

Groulxsmith posted:

le pen is not remotely a neo-nazi

the fn was the only party with a clear anti-eu, anti-globalization, pro sovereign currency platform and it's not hard to fault people for being attracted to that in the face of frankfurt and brussels governing your future

(certain) people have been saying this for a while now and recent events have only underlined the fact that the national line is the only real method of defense against international capital. the internal logic of capitalism, which is to say a constant march towards further centralization and accumulation, dictates that the national form must be erased as much as possible, and the natural counter-weight against such a tendency is the far right and its emphasis on the nation.



melenchon kind of shares your analysis without the far right stuff



re: those things that guy said: agreed

#243
isn't it frightening how the enemy changes his skin every time we recognize him
#244

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

jools posted:

Tsargon posted:

Groulxsmith posted:

le pen is not remotely a neo-nazi

the fn was the only party with a clear anti-eu, anti-globalization, pro sovereign currency platform and it's not hard to fault people for being attracted to that in the face of frankfurt and brussels governing your future

(certain) people have been saying this for a while now and recent events have only underlined the fact that the national line is the only real method of defense against international capital. the internal logic of capitalism, which is to say a constant march towards further centralization and accumulation, dictates that the national form must be erased as much as possible, and the natural counter-weight against such a tendency is the far right and its emphasis on the nation.



melenchon kind of shares your analysis without the far right stuff

Yeah but the left can't claim to truly care about national or cultural identity after a century of trying to tear these things down.



hmm... if only there were an ideology that merged socialism and nationalism

#245
#246
Israel's enemies have foreclosed the options of human rights on which its government was founded. Attack after ill-conceived and ill-executed attack has left her with more territory than she started with, and in the history of nations, territory gained by victory in combat is nonrefundable. But of course, this state of affairs denies the option of Isaiah's and Jeremiah's injunctions of social justice. When they're trying to kill you it's hard to be nice. In that circumstance, my personal belief is that one has a responsibility not only to oneself, but to the opponent to honestly demonstrate the physical evidence of one's truth. Israel's transformation of the desert into a garden supports the proposition that more, not less, Israeli domination of the region would enhance everyone's well-being-- just as the working class is the engine of capitalism, so constructive society must reach out to help the ignorant and fearful. And in order to do that despite ensuing conflicts with her mortal enemies, Israel must first survive. Like Moses said, "Choose life." I differ with orthodoxy-- I believe all people are "chosen" and all sentient beings exist in love. Our bodies, like all materialistic perceptions, obscure our eternal wise and loving true identities. Life is not about the land or the money, but who can blame Israelis for trying to survive?
#247
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#248
the thing you need to understand is that IWC didn't actually believe any of this stuff, until he did
#249
the ironic fascist contingent, the unironic fascist contingent, the rhizzmuslims, a bunch of deleted posts, dead youtube links, a long deserted goatstein alt, hell, even a cameo appearance from internationalist... 2012, mon amour...
#250

getfiscal posted:

sounds like a problem that solves itself.


#251
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-pilots-refuse-deport-asylum-seekers-lufthansa-angela-merkel-migrants-a8092276.html

That blood's gonna flow any day now...
#252
yeah like yesterday and the day before that etc