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the 9/11 commission report would be a pretty good halloween costume i reckon. maybe a bit high concept for most parties though
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gary webb was shot twice in the head in 2004. it was ruled a suicide

:hmm :
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tears posted:

gary webb was shot twice in the head in 2004. it was ruled a suicide

:hmm :


you have to respect his dedication to making sure he was dead

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Caesura109 posted:

How popular is the FBI killed MLK theory, and what's the evidence? It seems incredibly intuitive.


Unpopular with idiots, popular with anyone with a once of insight into MLK and the FBI's relationship.

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asserting things like that without talking at least a little about why isn’t very helpful
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cars posted:

asserting things like that without talking at least a little about why isn’t very helpful


Off the top of my head, I'd say the FBI-King suicide letters implicate the FBI in wanting King dead. King's increasing criticism of the Vietnam war coupled with Hoover's increased dementia probably helped foster the hit.

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speaking of the FBI and King, please enjoy this fresh strayan take on the recent JFK files release https://www.9news.com.au/videos/cj9nbg2r900200god704dpcpk/fbi-dossier-details-explosive-martin-luther-king-allegations
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King was also starting work on the "Poor People's Campaign", which, I mean, they don't kill you for being AGAINST poverty, like, what more evidence could u need
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insta_gramsci posted:

also, david talbot's the devil's chessboard is a great book on allen dulles and this time period



I started this and am about 40% through and it's pretty good (even though the author seems to be anticommunist)

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the fbi letter to mlk reads like the original 'im a former marine with 69 confirmed kills' intimidating fake post

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what incredible evilness
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really... "did the FBI murder MLK?", thats the level of conspiracy you're on? you are all little babbys, watch this: 9/11 was orchestrated to cover-up the clearing of $240 billion dollars in securities covertly created in September 1991 to fund a covert economic war against the Soviet Union, during which ‘unknown’ western investors bought up much of the Soviet industry, with a focus on oil and gas
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try this one on for size

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tears posted:

try this one on for size



maybe thats why hinckley was found not guilty by reason of insanity. he did a favor for ol' hw and georgie boy made sure he was taken care of instead of executed

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what if iran-contra...was a limited hangout
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tears posted:

gary webb was shot twice in the head in 2004. it was ruled a suicide

:hmm :



not without historical precedent i see

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,974380,00.html posted:

Dead Communists Tell No Tales
By Janice Castro Monday, Dec. 02, 1991

What's the hardest way to kill yourself? Three bullets to the head certainly ranks. According to Moscow police sources, that was the actual cause of death for coup conspirator BORIS PUGO, the Soviet Interior Minister who was officially described as having "committed suicide" when the August putsch fizzled. As for two other top Communist officials reported to have killed themselves by leaping from windows, sources say they probably were pushed in order to silence them. They apparently knew too much about the smuggling of Communist wealth out of the country as the party collapsed.

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Kennedy was assassinated by cells/operatives associated (to a sufficient degree of plausible deniability) with the US intelligence community, because the paranoid IC leadership hivemind Dulles/Angleton mistook him as intending to reform the IC, specifically w/r/t covert operations as well as of being soft on Communism and used a pre-established left/commie/supposedly cuban-sympathetic sheepdipped operative Oswald as the macguffin to absorb media attention, but were so thoroughly inept that have never been able to fully quash the common perception of conspiracy and so in subsequent decades have focused disinformation efforts on sowing a proliferation of plausible sounding but easily discredited stories about the mafia etc and carefully associating disreputable persons or misinformation with true facts so as to create an impenetrable haze of confusion for the purpose and with the general effect of causing most normal humans to just tune the whole thing out
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tears posted:

try this one on for size


i thought the jonestown conspiracy theory wasnt that jones was cia but that he was a socialist and the cia silenced him or whatever. that might be a bit mundane and low level for this thread though

Edited by lo ()

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hey cars, i was reading the deposition of one "erle cocke" and guess what i found

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tears posted:

what if iran-contra...was a limited hangout


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i thought you'd like that one,
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lo posted:

i thought the jonestown conspiracy theory wasnt that jones was cia but that he was a socialist and the cia silenced him or whatever. that might be a bit mundane and low level for this thread though


jonestown was an MK-ULTRA concentration camp, read this: https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/Jonestown.html

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tears posted:

lo posted:


i thought the jonestown conspiracy theory wasnt that jones was cia but that he was a socialist and the cia silenced him or whatever. that might be a bit mundane and low level for this thread though


jonestown was an MK-ULTRA concentration camp, read this: https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/Jonestown.html


ah now this is the good shit. nice tidbit in there about world vision(the sponsor a child ppl) being a cia front too and now i'm searching about it and getting dubious blogs, very cool.

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Says nothing that people here aren't aware of... But hopefully these creeps will flip and start to accuse each other like the ex Qatari pm did recently

https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/isis-was-state-sponsored-by-us-allies-says-former-government-intelligence-analyst-exclusive-51a9e999c437
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hello my name is tears and i am currently researching MK-ULTRA, if anyone with institutional access is fealing nice they could liberate for me the following journal articles:

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1968.22.2.363
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2190/Y6PR-AW3G-KC4K-V1G1
http://journals.lww.com/psychosomaticmedicine/Abstract/1969/09000/Androgen_Responses_to_Stress__II__Excretion_of.8.aspx
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/176/4030/71
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.1176/ajp.127.4.481
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/489727
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kinch posted:

the fbi letter to mlk reads like the original 'im a former marine with 69 confirmed kills' intimidating fake post



i love how the team of feds who wrote the letter couldnt resist putting in a shoutout to their own anticommunist collaborator roy wilkins, way to be subtle guys

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tears posted:

hello my name is tears and i am currently researching MK-ULTRA, if anyone with institutional access is fealing nice they could liberate for me the following journal articles:


after trying and failing to access most of these through my institution, i remembered about http://sci-hub.io/ (if you can't access it for some reason, PM me)

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oh my god, thank you
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TIL Isaac Isaac Deutscher, noted trot and trotsky biographer wrote an article called "The myth of the chinese landlord" about how "it is a stalinist myth that the chinese revolution is freeing the pesant from the domination of the feudal landlord" for noted CIA funded magazine "The Reporter"
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hahaha holuy fuck so this: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1968.22.2.363 "Affect Levels of Ten Special Forces Soldiers under Threat of Attack" is one of the first papers published by the psychiatrist MK-ULTRA creep im looking into and its all a bit uninteresting until i see at the bottom "A colorful picture of life in this special forces camp has recently been published by a free lance journalist (Mason, 1967) {in CIA funded journal The Reporter}

so i go and find this article and there it is



ahaha holy shits thats a vietnam concentration camp, he was testing the stress levels of the guards at a concentration camp

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"In 1985 American historian Arch Getty discovered that the Harvard Trotsky Archive had been purged of incriminating materials, but purged imperfectly. Getty also found evidence that Trotsky had indeed remained in contact with some of his former supporters inside the Soviet Union. Trotsky always strenuously denied this"

http://www.stalinsociety.org/2017/05/05/trotskys-lies-and-what-they-mean/

Hmm who was one of the few people who had access to trotskys archive before that?

"Isaac Deutscher had earlier worked in the closed archive but The Prophet Outcast, while referring to Trotsky correspondence at this time, makes no reference to these matters."

https://www.marxists.org/archive/broue/1980/01/bloc.html
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aaaaaaaa
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original fuggin research from me, tears, just cracked the god damn trotsky archives case & uncovered an MK-ULTRA operative in two successive posts 15 minutes apart