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tpaine posted:

i think we're all missing the real point here which is that living on a sacred indian burial ground can cause spooky things to happen to you

the world through the tv screen in Poltergeist is Full Communism with all the reparations paid out

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swampman posted:

the world through the tv screen in Poltergeist is Full Communism with all the reparations paid out


at the end of Poltergeist the family moves out of the home they bought and rents a hotel room. but is this change a constructive *snrk* movement forward into a better future, or is it fleeing from their responsibility for the literal corpses of the past? thees, i claim,

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I started studying land near me as toyotathon suggested and I found some good stuff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunt-Swartout_raid

A local historian described this as "One of the most audacious acts in the whole series of predatory aggressions by the Indians in this township" and I got a good laugh out of that
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mediumpig posted:

I started studying land near me as toyotathon suggested and I found some good stuff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunt-Swartout_raid

A local historian described this as "One of the most audacious acts in the whole series of predatory aggressions by the Indians in this township" and I got a good laugh out of that



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Where i'm from those who weren't murdered among the local tribes were rounded up and marched west, except for those allowed to remain on a small reservation. Some of the people in the tribe who remained owned slaves. U.S. federal law requires the tribe as legally incorporated to recognize the descendants of those slaves as members of the tribe.

Now tribal leadership runs a casino on the reservation, though, so they've been working to de-recognize those descendants of slaves one by one so there's a bigger portion of casino earnings each year per member. This has been presented by the news press as a Tough Problem Where No One's Right, except it happened because the white supremacist United States tried to offload reparations for slavery onto another group of people they enslaved and ethnically cleansed lol.
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toyotathon posted:

all that sounds great to me. i wasn't trying to take any position in the larger conversation, i just have a tic that kicks in whenever i see a conversation discuss the native genocide without mentioning that most of the indigenous nations are still alive and kicking

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there's also a tribe in the same place I mentioned earlier that the U.S. government refuses to recognize and a lot of very poor white people from a certain large backwoods family claim membership in it with the full support of most of the tribe, even though their claims of native descent are dubious, because they inflate the tribe's numbers and increase the chances of eventual official recognition. this is very cool.
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tpaine posted:

i think we're all missing the real point here which is that living on a sacred indian burial ground can cause spooky things to happen to you


Perfect for the halloween season

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So if I'm getting this right, the plan is to scare euro-amerikkkan settlers back to europe by convincing them north amerikkka is haunted? Sounds reasonable, we'll just have to avoid and meddling kids armed with a large dog.
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toyotathon posted:

hand-kneading dough for like 40 loaves of bread today for a wedding, dunno why i put myself in these situations. made pizza-foccacia last night so at least it'll burn those calories off. posting here so as to not suggest my bad example in the healthy eating thread.


i know a bakery in rural oregon u could buy

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swampman posted:

Yall prospective homeowners should take a look at the full cost of squatting somewhere until you suddenly own it, vs actually going down to a god damn bank and having to shake hands with one of those butter skinned maniacs in their old timey office clothes



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cars posted:

there's also a tribe in the same place I mentioned earlier that the U.S. government refuses to recognize and a lot of very poor white people from a certain large backwoods family claim membership in it with the full support of most of the tribe, even though their claims of native descent are dubious, because they inflate the tribe's numbers and increase the chances of eventual official recognition. this is very cool.

is this also the tribe that famously wrecked the kkk?

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Besides the whole euro-amerikan real estate economy and its relationship to imperialism, why would you want to live in the suburbs anyway, those places are not good for your mental health as a communist. I worked for an HOA doing landscaping and upkeep as a teenager, and the residents I interacted with on a daily basis were so far gone up their own asses that I wanted to commit arson. A Vietnam vet yelled at me once for getting mud on his $80,000 car while I was pressure washing a sidewalk. I very briefly considered using the pressure washer on him, I think the speed of the water would have ripped flesh off the bone, considering the distance between us was mere inches, perfectly within the effective range of a pressure washer turned weapon of divine terror.
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thirdplace posted:

is this also the tribe that famously wrecked the kkk?



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swampman posted:

Like I say, selective enforcement: in my neighborhood I know a building where FDNY shows up every few months and pounds on the door for a bit and all the neighbors, we're talkin like 30-40 illegal units with 2-4 tenants each, know not to answer. FDNY has no official proof the building is inhabited and they don't try hard to get it. Try squatting in an empty building for 1 day and FDNY+NYPD will kick their way in to remove you. It's also easy to get away with illegal construction on country property, until you start doing something (like housing lots of homeless) that catches official notice.



for whatever reason i always assumed this was only applicable to "public" buildings or rentals, and if it was a private use residence then there would be no rules like this, but i guess i just imagined this

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wasn't even looking for this stuff, just came up when sourcing settlers
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Mayhaps a rhizzone guide to real estate should be prepared
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I've thinking of doing a "lets talk about what happened to the people who owned the land where you live" thread because it could be valuable and cool and its one of the few ways I could meaningfully contribute here without actually cracking open a book... but i'm also kind of concerned it would be a de-facto doxing tool? i dunno what do you guys think
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thirdplace posted:

I've thinking of doing a "lets talk about what happened to the people who owned the land where you live" thread because it could be valuable and cool and its one of the few ways I could meaningfully contribute here without actually cracking open a book... but i'm also kind of concerned it would be a de-facto doxing tool? i dunno what do you guys think



This thread would be so cool. Counties or whatever could just be submitted anonymously on a google doc or something idk.

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don't even really need to get that specific; northern/central/etc part of X state should be good enough in most places (except the west coast)
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my friend lives on stolen land
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All my exes live on stolen land
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Probably should designate one person to do the write-up for Langley so we don't all end up doing the same work.

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seems like we've been having a timely conversation

President Donald Trump told Sen. Orrin Hatch on Friday that he would approve a recommendation to trim the boundaries of the Bears Ears National Monument, Hatch’s office said.

Friday’s news came just a day after the National Wildlife Federation posted a new video campaign in support of Bears Ears, prominently featuring Navajo Nation delegate Davis Filfred, who pleads with Trump to affirm the monument.

“Mr. President, we know you love America and her heritage,” Filfred says in the 30-second video segment. “Our national monuments protect that heritage for future generations. If you destroy these monuments, our public lands could be auctioned off. Our sacred tribal sites would be in danger.”

pretty sure that's the point...

Approached by reporters at an event in Salt Lake City on Friday, Hatch said Trump “told me Bears Ears would be the way I said it should be,” though he offered no details on the size. Hatch also said Trump will modify the Grand Staircase to allow coal mining in the Kaiparowits Plateau.


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lmao at coal mining. all the plants are closing down even. its pure spite
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kamelred posted:

my cousin has been asking me about politics a lot since the election since i guess im the family Opinions Guy and i think i accidentally turned him into a quasi-fash blackpill conspiracy theorist by accident. i tell him all the ordinary eye opening things about cops being slavecatchers and Troops being essentially paid hitmen and how the NFL thing is just about military propaganda and the whole russia angle is just sour grapes over ukriane and just in general i patiently worked through every single liberal delusion about hillary clinton and bernie sanders and donald trump but now instead of being a socialist he's just insanely unhinged and bringing up alex jones shit and suddenly im like, oh, this is what happened to william blum



wait what happened to william blum?

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Synergy posted:

kamelred posted:
my cousin has been asking me about politics a lot since the election since i guess im the family Opinions Guy and i think i accidentally turned him into a quasi-fash blackpill conspiracy theorist by accident. i tell him all the ordinary eye opening things about cops being slavecatchers and Troops being essentially paid hitmen and how the NFL thing is just about military propaganda and the whole russia angle is just sour grapes over ukriane and just in general i patiently worked through every single liberal delusion about hillary clinton and bernie sanders and donald trump but now instead of being a socialist he's just insanely unhinged and bringing up alex jones shit and suddenly im like, oh, this is what happened to william blum



wait what happened to william blum?


he just went senile because he’s old and sick, not whatever that guy just implied

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stegosaurus posted:

The alternative is giving the money to orgs or prisoners probably. Renting is a lot cheaper than buying and maintaining a house. So it’s not just a choice of where to shunt an equal amount of money for an equivalent thing. Anyway I’m sorry I brought it up.


It's good that you brought it up, because, I have been researching to see if there's some "third way" that combines the best elements of buying a house with renting one, and https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2013/11/02/hack-housing-get-paid-live-free/

Don’t be scared of homes that are a little “ugly” or have been foreclosed on. Although they may require a few weekends of painting with your buddies – you can often get substantial discounts because everyone else is scared away. In fact, my favorite feature in any property I am considering is the smell. The worse, the better. Why? Because smell is the easiest and cheapest thing to fix (usually just by installing new carpet and re-painting) but drives 99% of home buyers from even considering the deal.

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Synergy posted:

kamelred posted:

my cousin has been asking me about politics a lot since the election since i guess im the family Opinions Guy and i think i accidentally turned him into a quasi-fash blackpill conspiracy theorist by accident. i tell him all the ordinary eye opening things about cops being slavecatchers and Troops being essentially paid hitmen and how the NFL thing is just about military propaganda and the whole russia angle is just sour grapes over ukriane and just in general i patiently worked through every single liberal delusion about hillary clinton and bernie sanders and donald trump but now instead of being a socialist he's just insanely unhinged and bringing up alex jones shit and suddenly im like, oh, this is what happened to william blum

wait what happened to william blum?



hes old sick and dying and has gone full islamophobe

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i can't do facebook anymore, it's so fucking awful the way that website distorts discussion and human relationships
i'm a byob xp transplant/lurker but i might actually try to post here instead of FB now, we will see. someone encouraged me in that direction here earlier
cheers yall