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Petrol posted:is that meant to make him look like a good guy to his readers, or salvage his relationships with said female writers, or what? whatever it is, fuck him
both but it's also happening this context (Katerji was one of the "Emma Quangel" dox'ers, incidentally). imo it's the least objectionable part of the apology outside the part where he didn't deny it and sort of apologized
thirdplace posted:Petrol posted:is that meant to make him look like a good guy to his readers, or salvage his relationships with said female writers, or what? whatever it is, fuck him
both but it's also happening this context (Katerji was one of the "Emma Quangel" dox'ers, incidentally). imo it's the least objectionable part of the apology outside the part where he didn't deny it and sort of apologized
it may be happening but him saying not to do it achieves precisely nothing besides making him look like he gives a shit about anyone besides himself
tpaine posted:uh vilerat probably contributed to the deaths of thousands of innocent people, dingus.
Nbody actually dies in EVE. The money isnt real either. So like why do they play it lol
we won't have reached peak sam kriss in three months, when spiked hires him as a staff writer for one column a week about the witch hunting tendencies of the regressive left
we won't have reached peak sam kriss in a year, where he's touring Europe in the Haplobus with Milo, Nick Land and John Christy
we will reach peak sam kriss
when he moves into
the Beit Aghion
aerdil posted:damn now im really glad i decided to go to my first day of work instead of doing coke with deadken in san francisco six years ago or whatever
lol i was close to hanging out with him too when i was in the u.s.a. but didn't get around to it. good sh*t.
aerdil posted:damn now im really glad i decided to go to my first day of work instead of doing coke with deadken in san francisco six years ago or whatever
congrats on your Job
roseweird posted:what the hell are you talking about tho
there's a specific strain of miserable sexless creep who can't imagine any conceivable reason a man could possibly profess to feminist politics except to get laid, and so leaps at every public left figure who turns out to be a bastard. this demographic converges with Sam's previous writing making miserable sexless creeps extremely caremad by making fun of video games, so in this situation there's a critical mass of losers who feel like they have scored some kind of moral victory over the evil SJW conspiracy by staying in their basements being worthless and internet celebrities who make millions pandering to that specific mark lining up for free cred.
Constantignoble posted:i was just catching up on it in the other thread but i guess this is probably a better one for it
either way, holy shit; i was uncomfortable just reading it, couldn't imagine being in her shoes
he just posted a statement about the whole thing that starts off... about as well as these things can, i guess, but:
Today an allegation of sexual harassment and aggression was made against me, and I want to address it here. My behaviour was absolutely unacceptable, beneath both me and especially the person involved, and there’s no excuse for it. I’ve apologised privately to her, and I’m apologising, publicly, now.
I’d like for a moment to add some conext to the events described, which I hope will make them more explicable if not more excusable. By the time of the night described in the accusation, she and I had, as she mentions, previously met twice and we had an existing sexual relationship. The behaviour she describes was informed by that fact. I wasn’t fully aware of how unwelcome my advances were at that point: we had been messaging intimately and frequently up until then, and I went into the evening thinking it would be a continuation of the relationship we had already established. Had I known the extent to which I was making her uncomfortable at this point I would not have pursued it further. Again, this is entirely my fault, for not being properly attentive and not picking up on her signals. I crossed a line from persistence to aggression; I’m fully responsible, and I’m sorry.
After the incident, she continued to message me amicably for months, including suggesting that we might meet again, until other divisions became apparent. Because of this I had no idea that I might have hurt or upset her. If I had, I would have apologised immediately. Again, this is not to suggest that she misled me, but that I did not realise the impact of my actions.
Anyone who follows me closely will be aware that I am friends with many women with public platforms. I hope that the responsibility for my actions can stay with me alone, and that nobody else is made to feel as if they have to answer for me.
...that last paragraph is so fucking tone deaf that i'm not even sure how someone even mildly attuned to satire could have written it
edit: rereading it, i'm not feeling too good about that disclosure in the second graf, either
Edited by Constantignoble (yesterday 19:08:10)
this fucking sucks i hate this.
unmarked link to the "real life" thread, the one thread i had been avoiding clicking on ever since it was first created. now it looks like (to me, the only person that can see what threads i click) that i like real life. God fucking
parabolart posted:I applaud the turn towards transparency this kind of shit is taking. I'm just saying maybe have a Bigger Filter.
I usually err on the side of healing and forgiveness in communities where reasonably possible because constantly ostracizing every single person who fucks up wastes the potential of people who do genuinely good work in a war of attrition we're already constantly losing, but that's a lot harder to do when the boy fails so miserably at properly apologizing and being accountable to his actions.
There's a judgement call that has to be made about whether someone's learning and genuinely trying to be better or if they have a terminal case of affluenza and are just doing damage control. But that part is not really for us to decide: that's under the discretion of the people that he's hurt. And with that in mind, considering the people who have been most affected by Sam's actions, we need to consider what message we send to the world at large about who is welcome here and who isn't. This is early days yet and we'll see how things go.
Of course the fucked up sidelines crew obsessed with "doxxing leftists For Our Own Good" aren't helpful in this situation, but they never are, they're not the core people driving this confrontation, and we shouldn't let compensating for their shittiness distort our own decision making.
shriekingviolet posted:considering the people who have been most affected by Sam's actions, we need to consider what message we send to the world at large about who is welcome here and who isn't.
imo sexual assault requires exclusion from the community for the safety and wellbeing of all members current and future, especially in a case like this where the offence has been admitted and played down as a misunderstanding. if people like that are welcome here i will leave without a second thought
Petrol posted:especially in a case like this where the offence has been admitted and played down as a misunderstanding.
yuuuuuup that shit is unacceptable and a reliable indicator that it'll happen again if given half a chance. i really wish i wasn't so familiar with this shitty dance. it's irresponsible and dangerous to keep people like that around under the banner of inclusion because they will keep hurting people and keep getting away with it, it goes on for so long people can't even challenge it anymore and have to either just leave or become complicit.
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