either way, holy shit; i was uncomfortable just reading it, couldn't imagine being in her shoes
he just posted a statement about the whole thing that starts off... about as well as these things can, i guess, but:
Today an allegation of sexual harassment and aggression was made against me, and I want to address it here. My behaviour was absolutely unacceptable, beneath both me and especially the person involved, and there’s no excuse for it. I’ve apologised privately to her, and I’m apologising, publicly, now.
I’d like for a moment to add some conext to the events described, which I hope will make them more explicable if not more excusable. By the time of the night described in the accusation, she and I had, as she mentions, previously met twice and we had an existing sexual relationship. The behaviour she describes was informed by that fact. I wasn’t fully aware of how unwelcome my advances were at that point: we had been messaging intimately and frequently up until then, and I went into the evening thinking it would be a continuation of the relationship we had already established. Had I known the extent to which I was making her uncomfortable at this point I would not have pursued it further. Again, this is entirely my fault, for not being properly attentive and not picking up on her signals. I crossed a line from persistence to aggression; I’m fully responsible, and I’m sorry.
After the incident, she continued to message me amicably for months, including suggesting that we might meet again, until other divisions became apparent. Because of this I had no idea that I might have hurt or upset her. If I had, I would have apologised immediately. Again, this is not to suggest that she misled me, but that I did not realise the impact of my actions.
Anyone who follows me closely will be aware that I am friends with many women with public platforms. I hope that the responsibility for my actions can stay with me alone, and that nobody else is made to feel as if they have to answer for me.
...that last paragraph is so fucking tone deaf that i'm not even sure how someone even mildly attuned to satire could have written it
edit: rereading it, i'm not feeling too good about that disclosure in the second graf, either
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kinda baffling he alludes to previous encouters with this woman to try to explain his behavior a bit when in her post on fb she already indicated things had already been bad even before this meeting. rip deadken, hoping he didnt inflict this kind of troubling behavior on other women but these things are always a pattern it seems like, like if hes ordering her drinks for her then it seems kind of too deeply instilled in him to be an isolated incident
ilmdge posted:rip deadken
so this is the end right. it definitely feels a lot like the end pic.twitter.com/zPrZVP3Azg
— Sam 🐄 Kriss (@sam_kriss) October 16, 2017
e: oh so the tweet is a couple days old. still
marimite posted:Sort of odd that he both accuses her of leaving out important information while acknowledging the rest and directly apologizing. It's like he's going for what will be seen as an appropriate and plausible response (prob with some help from other ppl who game social media) while covering his ass. It also puts in a new light all the accusations that he leverages his class position.
i think this is why, as petrol said, it can take a minute for the lowness to sink in
i'm so used to scanning response statements for all the weaselly ways people evade ever having to actually use expressions like "sorry," "my fault," "i'm responsible" etc., so the fact that he included those kinda momentarily blinded me to the other ways it's completely fucked
babyhueypnewton posted:Bring back tpaine, the only one of us to consistently call out Sam Kriss for being gross and a bad poster.
are you joking wit hthis... i was never nice to sk... I STARTED THNE SEARCH TERM MEME
But this only caused Sam to go into overdrive. He bragged about getting ‘kicked out’ of a Frat House in America, but that it didn’t matter as, “18-year-old boys only join Frat Houses to procure alcohol and women, and I was 21, so I could procure my own alcohol and women”.
i remember him bragging about this for some reason six years ago. i guess even an american frat house found his behaviour unacceptable
elemennop posted:also this bit 100% confirmed the story for me
But this only caused Sam to go into overdrive. He bragged about getting ‘kicked out’ of a Frat House in America, but that it didn’t matter as, “18-year-old boys only join Frat Houses to procure alcohol and women, and I was 21, so I could procure my own alcohol and women”.
i remember him bragging about this for some reason six years ago. i guess even an american frat house found his behaviour unacceptable
I remember that, "bragging" is completely accurate. how cool American frat houses are guys
belgend posted:ithought deadken was already known to be shitty for a longerttime than him being an op-ed writer
we've always accused him of being champagne socialist, hedonist careerist, and a guy using feminism/socialism to get laid, but only a couple of people met him in real life. impper was ambivalent about him, jools and discipline kind of defended him, though it seems dispo changed her mind at some point?
Constantignoble posted:rHizzonE alum and noted guy-I-don’t-know-well-enough-to-properly-slam Sam Kriss
update: i now possess more than adequate knowledge
cars posted:this is some fucked up shit and i don't think the response even begins to qualify as the baseline of self-criticism required.
it's a little performance for his fans/colleagues, albeit an obviously tone-deaf one. it certainly has nothing to do with making amends. like, the bit about having female writer pals, and please don't put this on them - is that meant to make him look like a good guy to his readers, or salvage his relationships with said female writers, or what? whatever it is, fuck him
Today an allegation of sexual harassment and aggression was made against me,
subtle distinction but note he calls it "aggression" rather than "assault"