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reposting this becUse it d idn t get the appreciation it deserved
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br2049 managed to accomplish the impossible and is really great
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i dont want to spoil things but if i had to pick one big flaw it would be an eye-rolling star trek level lapse into idealism in the third act, but even that works so well as Big Twist that you kind of have to let it slide, and anyway its something thematically consistent with the original if not tonally. other than that br2049's story really completes the idea that replicant is a social relation, not a physical property of a being. replicant is a historical identifier, its a question of how other people see you, and arguably the whole point is that this is just-so in the way the philosophical puzzles and thought experiments are formulated in such a way as to defy the sorts of quibbles that are involved in questioning whether deckard in the original is really human or a replicant or whatever. its a distinction without difference thing

its a fucking crying shame that this movie is going to bomb, honestly. arguably the one reason it was made at all is because sony has been a ten year long disaster and they really needed a prestige kind of film to build pedigree so in all likelihood there wont be anything like this for another 10 years or at all. i would see it in IMAX if you have any fondness at for the original

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Just saw this during college football lmao:



White girl stands up to bullies harassing another kid, then becomes a Marine, then later gives out blankets to the homeless. How Woke.
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UNUSUALY COOL
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Blade Runner 2 was fun to watch and didn't matter much otherwise. seems fine
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jiroemon1897 posted:

Just saw this during college football lmao:



White girl stands up to bullies harassing another kid, then becomes a Marine, then later gives out blankets to the homeless. How Woke.



the comments are great, it's just a bunch of dudes complaining about women being in the marines (muh standards)

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blade runner 2 was good, in my opinion. not worth much, but the whole, slaves that form the basis of their whole economy, still want to be free and realise they have to fight for it, is a pretty good message. maybe i just look for revolution everywhere, but the movie did mention it being the only way for them to be free.
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i watched yesterdays panorama about how the number of children raped or abused by other children in britain has gone up by 71% over the past 4 years. what have we done
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tears posted:

i watched yesterdays panorama about how the number of children raped or abused by other children in britain has gone up by 71% over the past 4 years. what have we done


as a society? kinda sounds like you abused a bunch more kids. which is weird because i dont think stuff like jimmy savile coming to light was meant to be inspiring

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tears posted:

what have we done


from my understanding the stats are significantly increased by "sexting" / "revenge porn" being classed as a crime this year. although i don't mean to minimize the real and destructive effects of social media and "cyberbullying". also the "child on child" tag drastically underplays the fact sexual violence / harassment is mostly perpetrated by males aggressively sexualized by constant access to toxic online porn.

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Petrol posted:

tears posted:

as a society?


obviously

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Gssh posted:

tears posted:

what have we done

from my understanding the stats are significantly increased by "sexting" / "revenge porn" being classed as a crime this year. although i don't mean to minimize the real and destructive effects of social media and "cyberbullying". also the "child on child" tag drastically underplays the fact sexual violence / harassment is mostly perpetrated by males aggressively sexualized by constant access to toxic online porn.



The..."increesed reporting/criminalisation" always seemed like a cop out, esp considering the inefectualness of the police in dealing with rape and abuse, and this was data across the last 4 years

As for child on child it is, as always, almost entirly male on female, everyones just getting younger, in a huge part because of what u say, access to pornography.

The idea that girls are ment to get educated and develop in an environment where theyre constantly surronded by males brough up on a diet of their own superiority under patriarchy and a constant input of rape propaganda, and many girls having to return day after day to sit in class with their abusers, is a literal torture scenario

abolish porn and bring back sex segregated schools imo

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Agreed with tears, but to derail the conversation, Re: Bladerunner i disliked how much of the film focused on the same kind of desolate post-apocalypic landscapes that are in basically every hollywood science fiction film now. imo probably the exact opposite aesthetic cue people should be taking from the original
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Just some on the ground input re previous posts. My neighbors have kids, and on the weekends these kids make being outside generally unbearable, on top of that you hear the boys say THEE WORST SHIT to the girls, and they are all like 7 years old. It's tragic. I think segregated schools would be very advantageous in this situation. How could you dupe at least 30% of earth males onto a one way Mars expedition? Heck, even a space station... I'd watch that.
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UNUSUALY COOL
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wtf
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UNUSUALY COOL
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*logs on to movie thread* currently watching: some kids playing in someone else's yard. Loathsome as the day before and the day before that, i wish especial death upon the males.
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In no unrelated way... I'm just dying to talk some shit on BR 2049...
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just a heads up, telesur english is now streaming live on youtube. pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGMCmUgwJ0c
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just finished Homicide: Life on the Street which is basically a precursor to The Wire. a lot filler towards the end but some good content throughout. i was surprised how often they brought up racism/sexism considering it aired in the 90s

this particular scene is a nice showcase (garbage quality, sorry):

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toyotathon posted:

edit- is this show fash? laughing at work-a-day petty boug struggle and craigslist labor, getting suckered by promises of wealth to go along with nathan's schemes...



i was kind of disturbed by this week's episode too

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i would caution against analysis inspired by the likes of zizek..

i can see where everyone is coming from with this but i think there's two main things that put the show on solid ground. one is that the absurdism of the humour takes it beyond a simple prank show, so that the participants aren't really the butt of the joke, rather the foil for nathan's ridiculous scenarios. the second is that, as you point out, nathan is the one putting himself on the line (physically, legally, etc) for the sake of the humour. nobody ever looks more ridiculous than him.
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New season of Nathan for You isn't as funny because most of it has focused on lolrandom XD humor of convoluted plans. But at its best it's funny because Nathan plays a social autist who doesn't understand that the logic of capitalism that is implicit but not allowed to be acknowledged because of social conventions and liberal politeness. Sometimes the business owner is a sleaze and sometimes they are a victim, sometimes they are as weird as Nathan in their own way. But the desire to humanize them misses the point which is that all of us are complicit in the logic of capital and shying away from its worse excesses and Nathan's ability to bring that out of people with a little prodding and a TV camera should provoke revulsion in us. This usually builds into a critique of mass media and the power of the spectacle to turn budding capitalists into their worst selves but at its core its a reversal of every show on TV which either allows us to laugh at the rich, greedy other who gets his comeuppance or feel vicarious pleasure in the triumph of good, hardworking capitalists. Brecht was correct to warn us against both and Nathan for You is the only show I know that resists both escapism through empathy and distancing through rationalization.

e: I guess that sort of aligns with Zizek but I have no idea what the relevance is of "Stalinism" except as a fantasy Zizek can use to sell a critique of capitalism to liberals. Obviously building a critique based on a lie though doesn't work since Nathan for You is a particularly capitalist show and Zizek in no way engages with the rich understanding of art in Marxism.

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Poronto
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ive been watching endless reruns of law and order svu. it's very comforting and soporific. the Propaganda is palpable but I still think cops are good now anyway. benson is such a stud woof
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imo the show almost universally presents everyone as just going along with it out of politeness & not wanting to shut a well meaning guy down or make an awkward situation hostile. it's weird to read the constant refrains of "...Uh yeah sure maybe" as anyone being genuinely tempted by their petit-bourgeois greed or whatever.
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blinkandwheeze posted:

imo the show almost universally presents everyone as just going along with it out of politeness & not wanting to shut a well meaning guy down or make an awkward situation hostile. it's weird to read the constant refrains of "...Uh yeah sure maybe" as anyone being genuinely tempted by their petit-bourgeois greed or whatever.



http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/nathan-for-you-los-angeles-reality-tv/

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it's the premise of the show insofar as it's just a very transparent setup for jokes, at least half of which are at nathan's expense and have nothing to do with the follies of entrepreneurial capital or whatever
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Finally saw Blade Runner. An uplifting tale about a timeline where the Soviet Union still exists in 2049. 10/10
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yeah that was amazing. i watched the full clip of his appearance afterwards and it's so drawn out and the audience is clearly bored for much of it, i love it so much
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i watched the MTWest star trek yesterday, "Errand of Mercy", where Kirk becomes a White terrorist trying to Liberate local commies from the cartoonishly evil USSR as the locals tell him to please fucking stop doing that. eventually they show their true Dragon ball power and end war forever everywhere. the Federation comes off really bad in it, the locals are like so your government is going to kill millions and burn down entire planets in this war, right? and Kirk says, well if you don't like it you can file a complaint or whatever just don't try and stop us.
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started watching star trek few months ago bc c_man pointed out adam kotsko's true life's work of posting on star trek lore reddits and now i'm big into that stuff, fuck owned
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TG posted:

TG posted:

rewatching deep space nine, about 13 eps in

one year later and im back at it, halfway through season 4 again. dominion war > borg invasion



in case anyone is wondering about my tv watching habits, i am once again watching ds9. its possible that i have a real problem

one thing i find interesting about star trek is that aliens are almost always only given one name while all the humans have at least two and often three. youve got james tiberius kirk and jean luc picard but only spock or worf or quark. its like they go out of their way to treat the aliens the same as humans, referring to them as people, or men and women, but then they overlook the fact that there are ostensibly tens of billions of klingons, and even the emperor and members of the high council have only one syllable to go by. maybe they get a house name (but why is it still the house of mogh when mogh is dead? why isnt it the house of worf, or better yet, the house of some long-dead patriarch?). i know that aliens in star trek are meant to represent a certain aspect of human behavior, so theyre all one-dimensional: vulcans are pure logic, ferengi pure greed, etc. maybe the naming conventions are designed to reflect that fact

a notable exception is that bajorans get two names, ie kira nerys (but even then, most of them just get the one, like wynn or opaka). its as if theyre trying extra hard to make you sympathize with the plight of an oppressed people by extra-humanizing them as opposed to the lizard people who occupied them, led by the evil dukat. i know garak has a first name, but in many ways he stands for the redemption of the cardassians, because he overcomes his cia training and helps the Good Guys so he earns himself a mark of humanity that aliens just dont have. of course, worf was raised by humans and has himself a human last name but it is Never used. he isnt commander rozhenko at all. this is probably because, despite his close association with humans, he does all he can to reject his humanity and embraces his klingon side