#5721

blinkandwheeze posted:

nobody should be reverently appealing to the doctrinaire efforts of marxist-leninists parties or figures that have not established revolutionary armed struggle in any meaningful sense. there's a lot of value to be learned from these organisational efforts but this should be as open and flexible a process as possible. the idea that we are simply obligated to adopt the disciplinary standards of militant revolutionary cadre because forebears who were not even militant or revolutionary did so is just cultist behaviour


you don't know what you're talking about and it shows, trying to put words in my mouth

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#5722
blink tends to argue past people a lot of the time when they say something that rubs him the wrong way but i can't see how he's wrong here
#5723
imo bnw posts good posts that avoid ambiguity in their pov or line
#5724
agreed
#5725

Petrol posted:

blink tends to argue past people a lot of the time when they say something that rubs him the wrong way but i can't see how he's wrong here


trying to critique the person i namedropped based on two texts who say exactly what bnw is saying (i never said he's wrong, i asked bnw for a critique on this person and they then gave a 'critique' of things neither he nor i said)


i also don't understand how people here are thinking the psl was in the wrong for softlocking urban for - according to urban's own posts - just up and leaving a congress where he was a delegate at. that's not demcen gone mad like how tears and apparently other people here have experienced demcen in the past. that's just a procedure

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#5728

roseweird posted:

Petrol posted:

getting back on topic, im listening to techno and trying to get essays done instead of playing the snes mini thing i got yesterday, which owns.

i hate these things lol why are people paying $80 for a plastic box that runs 20 ancient games you could emulate flawlessly on a toaster



There was a fucking line out the door at the Gamestop near my work at 8am for this shit. People got up at the crack of dawn to wait in line for a re-release of decades old technology.

#5729
I already have a Super Nintendo and 20 games.
#5730

roseweird posted:

Petrol posted:

getting back on topic, im listening to techno and trying to get essays done instead of playing the snes mini thing i got yesterday, which owns.

i hate these things lol why are people paying $80 for a plastic box that runs 20 ancient games you could emulate flawlessly on a toaster


Not allowed toasters in dorm rooms.

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#5732

aerdil posted:

i got banned from SA just for upvoting a thread about the grover house



this is the real life thread. wait a minute..

#5733

roseweird posted:

Petrol posted:

getting back on topic, im listening to techno and trying to get essays done instead of playing the snes mini thing i got yesterday, which owns.

i hate these things lol why are people paying $80 for a plastic box that runs 20 ancient games you could emulate flawlessly on a toaster


it's an extremely pleasant way to play all the games i want for my favourite system with a nice interface and controllers and hdmi and no need to build a crappy looking diy emulator thing, which would cost almost as much anyway. now i can sell off a bunch of old retro game crap i have lying around that was too inconvenient to use now anyway and not feel too bad about it

#5734

belgend posted:

(i never said he's wrong, i asked bnw for a critique on this person and they then gave a 'critique' of things neither he nor i said)


my critique is that the workers' party of belgium never established militant revolutionary struggle in any meaningful sense so appealing to their experience or line as any kind of practical authority is ridiculous. there's no reason to levy a particular critique against martens or the line of his party in particular because simply identifying their stage of development is sufficient

for what it's worth i will qualify that this isn't singling out martens in particular, this applies to very nearly any of the figures of 20th century marxist-leninist organisation in the west. it is completely absurd to inherit these past organisational traditions and lines because they all almost universally failed to develop to the point of revolutionary struggle. urbandale or any other random psl member (or poster on this forum) know effectively as much as the highest leadership of western european marxist-leninist parties when it comes to the question of how to develop militant struggle in the core, i.e. basically nothing

i don't know where your accusations of putting words in your mouth or whatever are coming from. i am simply arguing against the fact you cited a western marxist-leninist as an authority on organisational development, which you clearly did, something i consider absurd

belgend posted:

i also don't understand how people here are thinking the psl was in the wrong for softlocking urban for - according to urban's own posts - just up and leaving a congress where he was a delegate at. that's not demcen gone mad like how tears and apparently other people here have experienced demcen in the past. that's just a procedure


if a years deep high ranking member going for a smoke break is seen as equivalent to a walkout in protest worthy of softblocking then it is a stupid procedure for idiots

#5735
people keep asking me whats up and id like to link to the forum so i dont have to keep explaining what happened over and over again but i cant cuz tpaines meaningless horseshit meltdown and rape posts immediately following. thanks for your always high quality posts tpaine, ill never figure out why people are cool with you posting this trash
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#5739

Guyovich posted:

if you can, would you mind going into a little more detail or linking articles on active duty recruitment? my impression was the parties have contacts within the military but hold off on making active duty full members due to the uniform code of military justice rules on political activity.



forgot to go into this. i honestly dunno how various locals go about this, since we never did this in my local and I never had a direct hand in the locals Membership Committee. locally we didnt actually target any specific demographic, either based on nationality or industry, and we never received instruction on how to go about doing so were we to attempt it. comrades in LA created March Forward as an attempt to organize active duty and veterans into a single mass organization pushing several demands, including democratization of the armed forces. since the lead has been either expelled or soft-kicked like myself during the LA leadership shakeup, a few yaars ago, March Forward has died, the website isnt hosted anymore, and I cant seem to find the demands list. Regardless, the only rule relating to this PSL has in the Constitution is no cops and no dual carding in other socialist or communist parties. However, various people have expanded this to include the Green Party despite PSL members running under certain Green Party tickets (like Washington DC due to the history of the Statehood Greens) and and no Constitutional amendment was proposed or passed on this issue at the last Congress.

We don't discuss who is active duty (for fairly obvious reasons), and since the growth of the party post-Trump, I have no doubt many locals don't have any active duty or veterans. However, no instructions about a change in this policy were ever received, at least in my former local.

Speech at the International Communist Seminar: https://www.liberationnews.org/09-06-10-party-socialism-liberation-psl-html/
Speech in Boston against Arizona's SB 1070 law: https://www.liberationnews.org/10-07-22-our-fight-is-against-racism-html/

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#5743

belgend posted:

JohnBeige posted:

soft-kicked from the local cuz i wasnt thinking about my actions before i did them. dunno what to do now cuz ive been here for six years. need to reflect. made this account cuz the last had too much attention from lurkers, reporting everything i did to people who dont know me and dont ask questions before they take action. regardless i still think psl the best party in the US. now that im not there tho i feel like fuck it ill dry-snitch. some yall knew me as urbandale. might try and pull some people to leninism in dsa, who knows. wish me luck plz.

this is bad praxis and you should selfcrit



i self-crit and resigned from SC the week before being kicked, they didnt really care tbh. national also struck the local bylaws. dunno why, though no other branch has them

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#5745
please dont start mistaking this site for real life. its understandable that a website what involves pretending to be schizo/autistic for two decades attracts a fair dear of actual schizophrenics, but everyone goes crazy in the same way, ie believing forums posters are people they know or that people they know are secretly forums posters.
#5746
these are the posts i know i know i know these are the posts i know
#5747
i forgot the name of the guy who wrote long posts about phenomenology and went crazy. he was a staple. the pink ninja dude less so.
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#5749
that's jeffery, kinch is talking about dm i think
#5750

roseweird posted:

that guy still tweets every day about how like a super ai is writing all the rhizzone posts


im a super ai and let me tell you, hes not wrong

#5751

roseweird posted:

that guy still tweets every day about how like a super ai is writing all the rhizzone posts



i think that's animedad, but he got better

#5752

tpaine posted:

yeah the more i think about it the more i'm not about to post on a forum where someone can accuse me of that kind of thing stupidly and have it go uncontested. that's way more shameful than making a rape joke to begin with. see ya


maybe thats because yoda saying how much he likes to do a rape is a stupid unfunny joke nobody felt like defending. obviously it wasnt a rape threat but you probably should have logged off before annoying everyone with a dozen yoda rape joke posts in a row

#5753

tpaine posted:

*in the middle of a bunch of posts about Yoda raping Luke* "Rape you I must."

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

Rape! Rape!

*blows whistle that sounds like the dying fart of communism's never really realistic chances of ever succeeding anywhere*



IFAP tpaine for anti-communism

#5754

tpaine posted:

can i just be permanently ifapped or something with no hope of release


yes do this. who keeps on releasing him. the man is sick

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#5756
good morning "real life thread", i see everything is as usual in here. i am about to go to my very first class for my BA. political theory and ideologies. little do they know i used to train in 10000x gravity for just this
#5757
i really need to go to the bath room
#5758
I decided to take Arabic at my university this semester and the class is filled with wannabe State Department lackeys and future US non-profit workers (and one post-colonial religion grad student lol). You might have heard of our textbook, al-Kitaab, a book that is decidedly written specifically for these types of individuals which became evident immediately because literally on page 2 in Chapter 1 is a vocabulary list including "United Nations". Not complaining, but the cherry on top for this whole situation is that the class takes place in our university's ROTC building giving it all a shady, eerie feeling. The classroom has a bookshelf filled with infantry manuals and operational strategy books and there's even a table filled with toy green soldiers, presumably for teaching future marines how to most efficiently maneuver in the field and maybe even perpetrate a proper Mai Lai. It's filled with sand.

The teacher is pretty cool though.
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#5760

Dimashq posted:

It's filled with sand.