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this is one of those times i get weirded out by the journalist acrobatics that manage to turn this into a story primarily about the dangers of outsourcing, including the standard "X can be good, even necessary, but sometimes it goes bad!" preamble
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yeah totally. i was just having one of those semi-regular moments of disgust at the profession of journalism
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propublica has some decent investigations but ultimately its ideological line is a NPR-ish america good but theres bad apples
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you are right
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i don't know where else to put this but the thread is vaguely related to the military so whatever yolo. i was remembering a major point when i realized that liberals were completely full of shit, which was during the height of the snowden revelations, particularly about spying on foreigners. i would read them saying that this was completely unsurprising, nations follow their own self-interest, you're naive if you think it's wrong, and that it was completely legal because foreigners have no rights. this wouldn't be very notable except then i saw the very same people arguing that we had to invade Syria because we, a nation that i was just told only follows its own self-interest, somehow had a moral obligation to save foreigners, whom i was just told are unpeople with no rights we owe nothing to. arguing RealpolitikTM and Liberal Humanitarianism at the same time with absolutely no comprehension of the conflict
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sat watching the sporty games competition for ex troops wounded in service to imperialism or something...i dont really inderstand what this is but its in canada and the whole concept is fuuuucked up
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its such a trip going back to SA and seeing all the things i got banned for saying one or two years ago becoming conventional wisdom. D&D circa 2025 is just going to be miles and miles of threads detailing tips and how-to guides for painting portraits of stalin
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kamelred posted:

its such a trip going back to SA and seeing all the things i got banned for saying one or two years ago becoming conventional wisdom. D&D circa 2025 is just going to be miles and miles of threads detailing tips and how-to guides for painting portraits of stalin



it got immediately better the moment evilweasel stopped being mod, although by no means good

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UNUSUALY COOL
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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

i don't know where else to put this but the thread is vaguely related to the military so whatever yolo. i was remembering a major point when i realized that liberals were completely full of shit, which was during the height of the snowden revelations, particularly about spying on foreigners. i would read them saying that this was completely unsurprising, nations follow their own self-interest, you're naive if you think it's wrong, and that it was completely legal because foreigners have no rights. this wouldn't be very notable except then i saw the very same people arguing that we had to invade Syria because we, a nation that i was just told only follows its own self-interest, somehow had a moral obligation to save foreigners, whom i was just told are unpeople with no rights we owe nothing to. arguing RealpolitikTM and Liberal Humanitarianism at the same time with absolutely no comprehension of the conflict



one thing i learned in school is that every IR liberal suddenly turns into an IR "realist" when it's implied that the United States won't or shouldn't end up de facto in charge of the world