roseweird posted:i think ppl are using tankie in such a way that "ppl who supported soviet union even after the tanks thing made it obvious that it was bad" is equivalent to "ppl who are communists even tho it should be obvious to them that communism happened and failed and proved itself wrong" so they probably don't care about imprecision in its application
i didn't even know what it meant until like a few months ago or something
Second International: adjourned after proving scientifically that all demsocs go to hell
Comintern: third time's a charm; wisely dissolved for being too good
Fourth International: wreckers
Fifth International: you're postin' in it, baby
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i'm mean, sure, i can be a trotskyite and say both are evil, but that's a fucking lazy position. do i deny that the soviet union made mistakes? no, they should have had some way for laika to come back to earth. was it perfect communism? no, and it never said it was, only that it was an attempt to pursue it. cuba is the perfect example, making the best of a bad situation economically, using most of its resources to help people both within and without the country. could it spend less money on security, have less political prisoners? maybe, if the fucking superpower next door wasn't focused on overthrowing it!
all the negative things liberals say about the soviet union is things that any country struggling in an existential crisis would do.
I'm making a bagel, I'll continue later.
Red_Canadian posted:my main thing with supporting the soviet union, and doing it vocally, is pick a fucking side! The United States and the capitalist order is orders of magnitude worse.
i'm mean, sure, i can be a trotskyite and say both are evil, but that's a fucking lazy position. do i deny that the soviet union made mistakes? no, they should have had some way for laika to come back to earth. was it perfect communism? no, and it never said it was, only that it was an attempt to pursue it. cuba is the perfect example, making the best of a bad situation economically, using most of its resources to help people both within and without the country. could it spend less money on security, have less political prisoners? maybe, if the fucking superpower next door wasn't focused on overthrowing it!
all the negative things liberals say about the soviet union is things that any country struggling in an existential crisis would do.
I'm making a bagel, I'll continue later.
Lal salaam. I live in Raipur, Chhattisgarh, India. Well, technically in a forest outside the city. I'm a journalist that's interested in the people's war in India. I don't believe in bourgeois objectivity and I take sides: I think the Maoists are fighting the good fight. One thing that surprised me when I arrived here was how much the Maoists enjoy learning about debates in the West. Every few days I print off a few threads from the Rhizzone and explain them to members of the Maoist army. I can honestly say that the discussion at the Rhizzone informs their day-to-day struggles.
roseweird posted:cars posted:
i don't think it's going to be a huge deal for me, the thread is just a joke
i wonder if i will hear someone irl say 'tankie'
i've heard this term maybe once or twice in the wild for my entire life. what a shocker that it only came back into vogue during a clinton campaign
tears posted:Red_Canadian posted:
my main thing with supporting the soviet union, and doing it vocally, is pick a fucking side! The United States and the capitalist order is orders of magnitude worse.
i'm mean, sure, i can be a trotskyite and say both are evil, but that's a fucking lazy position. do i deny that the soviet union made mistakes? no, they should have had some way for laika to come back to earth. was it perfect communism? no, and it never said it was, only that it was an attempt to pursue it. cuba is the perfect example, making the best of a bad situation economically, using most of its resources to help people both within and without the country. could it spend less money on security, have less political prisoners? maybe, if the fucking superpower next door wasn't focused on overthrowing it!
all the negative things liberals say about the soviet union is things that any country struggling in an existential crisis would do.
I'm making a bagel, I'll continue later.
Lal salaam. I live in Raipur, Chhattisgarh, India. Well, technically in a forest outside the city. I'm a journalist that's interested in the people's war in India. I don't believe in bourgeois objectivity and I take sides: I think the Maoists are fighting the good fight. One thing that surprised me when I arrived here was how much the Maoists enjoy learning about debates in the West. Every few days I print off a few threads from the Rhizzone and explain them to members of the Maoist army. I can honestly say that the discussion at the Rhizzone informs their day-to-day struggles.
C'mon, at least credit getfiscal for this classic
I'm pretty sure tankie just means anti-imperialist for all intents and purposes
proceduraldialectics posted:Today I got called a "tankie" a "chapo guy" and a "jacobin reader" all in the same day
I'm pretty sure tankie just means anti-imperialist for all intents and purposes
the elusive anti-imperialist jacobin reader
Belphegor posted:C'mon, at least credit getfiscal for this classic
i dont source my quotes
Who could foresee?
I'd come to feel about you
What you felt about me
Why only now, when I see
That you've drifted away?
What a surprise
What a cliche
Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer?
Losing my timing this late in my career
And where are the tanks?
Quick, send in the tanks
Tank u, t-34 xoxo
roseweird posted:i wonder if i will hear someone irl say 'tankie'
the day after someone says it on msnbc
whoever brought it back into currency in the 21st century cyber world definitely deserves a pay raise at whatever nazi intelligence agency they work for