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itt share thoughts & images enjoyed by those of us who support the entry of the Red Army of the Soviet Union into Budapest on the 24th of October 1956, an event which we all think about a lot and like and love and use to define ourselves
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roseweird posted:

i think ppl are using tankie in such a way that "ppl who supported soviet union even after the tanks thing made it obvious that it was bad" is equivalent to "ppl who are communists even tho it should be obvious to them that communism happened and failed and proved itself wrong" so they probably don't care about imprecision in its application



i didn't even know what it meant until like a few months ago or something

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tankie holds the same uselessness as buzzwords like sjw.
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First International: could not keep up with time demands of constantly having to teach anarchists to bathe

Second International: adjourned after proving scientifically that all demsocs go to hell

Comintern: third time's a charm; wisely dissolved for being too good

Fourth International: wreckers

Fifth International: you're postin' in it, baby
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when the tanks rolled into... *huge bingo roller spits out a ball* ...Grenada, i knew then that any defense of anything about the aggressor country was presumptively invalid
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Self-sworn, life-long tankie here. You have to understand that a large part of the devastation of the USSR in WWII was due to tank production. All metal-rich land had been strip mined, buildings and objects deconstructed and recycled, and all citizens had become like symbiotic bacteria in the reproductive organs of the tank economy. So basically, it was a utopia. By the time of the uprising in Hungary, the USSR politburo's diplomatic vocabulary had atrophied to massive tank invasions under any circumstances - a very advanced stage of Marxism-Leninism. This history-changing achievement went on to inspire noted tankie Sid Meier to depict the end-game of society as endless rocket (space tank) research while huge piles of helicopter gunships (sky tanks) cruise around blowing up barbarians.
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i prefer playing healer
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my main thing with supporting the soviet union, and doing it vocally, is pick a fucking side! The United States and the capitalist order is orders of magnitude worse.
i'm mean, sure, i can be a trotskyite and say both are evil, but that's a fucking lazy position. do i deny that the soviet union made mistakes? no, they should have had some way for laika to come back to earth. was it perfect communism? no, and it never said it was, only that it was an attempt to pursue it. cuba is the perfect example, making the best of a bad situation economically, using most of its resources to help people both within and without the country. could it spend less money on security, have less political prisoners? maybe, if the fucking superpower next door wasn't focused on overthrowing it!
all the negative things liberals say about the soviet union is things that any country struggling in an existential crisis would do.
I'm making a bagel, I'll continue later.
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i don't think it's going to be a huge deal for me, the thread is just a joke
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I have Adam Ulam's Stalin biography (along with other cold war era soviet studies detritus) from my dad's history bookshelves, and one of the spurious anecdotes in it has Stalin dumping a whole tray of ice cream onto Molotov at a diplomatic conference dinner party because he's a bully, but the thought of those cheerful slapstick hijinks makes me smile. I guess I'm a horrible monster vv
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scene from Bitter Harvest (2017)
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Red_Canadian posted:

my main thing with supporting the soviet union, and doing it vocally, is pick a fucking side! The United States and the capitalist order is orders of magnitude worse.
i'm mean, sure, i can be a trotskyite and say both are evil, but that's a fucking lazy position. do i deny that the soviet union made mistakes? no, they should have had some way for laika to come back to earth. was it perfect communism? no, and it never said it was, only that it was an attempt to pursue it. cuba is the perfect example, making the best of a bad situation economically, using most of its resources to help people both within and without the country. could it spend less money on security, have less political prisoners? maybe, if the fucking superpower next door wasn't focused on overthrowing it!
all the negative things liberals say about the soviet union is things that any country struggling in an existential crisis would do.
I'm making a bagel, I'll continue later.



Lal salaam. I live in Raipur, Chhattisgarh, India. Well, technically in a forest outside the city. I'm a journalist that's interested in the people's war in India. I don't believe in bourgeois objectivity and I take sides: I think the Maoists are fighting the good fight. One thing that surprised me when I arrived here was how much the Maoists enjoy learning about debates in the West. Every few days I print off a few threads from the Rhizzone and explain them to members of the Maoist army. I can honestly say that the discussion at the Rhizzone informs their day-to-day struggles.

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roseweird posted:

cars posted:
i don't think it's going to be a huge deal for me, the thread is just a joke



i wonder if i will hear someone irl say 'tankie'




i've heard this term maybe once or twice in the wild for my entire life. what a shocker that it only came back into vogue during a clinton campaign

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someone called me a tankie when i told them that the holodomor wasnt real, while infront of a 6 foot banner of stalin, justified imo
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holodomor was a term created by Ukrainian fascists
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tears posted:

Red_Canadian posted:
my main thing with supporting the soviet union, and doing it vocally, is pick a fucking side! The United States and the capitalist order is orders of magnitude worse.
i'm mean, sure, i can be a trotskyite and say both are evil, but that's a fucking lazy position. do i deny that the soviet union made mistakes? no, they should have had some way for laika to come back to earth. was it perfect communism? no, and it never said it was, only that it was an attempt to pursue it. cuba is the perfect example, making the best of a bad situation economically, using most of its resources to help people both within and without the country. could it spend less money on security, have less political prisoners? maybe, if the fucking superpower next door wasn't focused on overthrowing it!
all the negative things liberals say about the soviet union is things that any country struggling in an existential crisis would do.
I'm making a bagel, I'll continue later.



Lal salaam. I live in Raipur, Chhattisgarh, India. Well, technically in a forest outside the city. I'm a journalist that's interested in the people's war in India. I don't believe in bourgeois objectivity and I take sides: I think the Maoists are fighting the good fight. One thing that surprised me when I arrived here was how much the Maoists enjoy learning about debates in the West. Every few days I print off a few threads from the Rhizzone and explain them to members of the Maoist army. I can honestly say that the discussion at the Rhizzone informs their day-to-day struggles.


C'mon, at least credit getfiscal for this classic

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czech this bad boy out, only 1 ever made, basically a naval gun on treads, and i own it, virtually



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Today I got called a "tankie" a "chapo guy" and a "jacobin reader" all in the same day
I'm pretty sure tankie just means anti-imperialist for all intents and purposes
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never been called tankie op, have been called tanker regularly cause im a thicc bih
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proceduraldialectics posted:

Today I got called a "tankie" a "chapo guy" and a "jacobin reader" all in the same day
I'm pretty sure tankie just means anti-imperialist for all intents and purposes



the elusive anti-imperialist jacobin reader

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Belphegor posted:

C'mon, at least credit getfiscal for this classic


i dont source my quotes

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What a surprise!
Who could foresee?
I'd come to feel about you
What you felt about me
Why only now, when I see
That you've drifted away?
What a surprise
What a cliche

Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer?
Losing my timing this late in my career
And where are the tanks?
Quick, send in the tanks
#28
My favourite thing about Soviet tanks was the role they played ending the holocaust and liberating auschwitz

Tank u, t-34 xoxo
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roseweird posted:

i wonder if i will hear someone irl say 'tankie'



the day after someone says it on msnbc

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gonna build my forum cred by pointing out that even though i didn't know what the term meant i know it started with Trots
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it's been validating to watch it spread to demsocs & Democrats lately b/c they don't know what the fuck & even more than me
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a lot of liberals just have this vague idea, tanks are what bad guys use in James Bond movies. & heck that is me all dang night
#33
trots are garbage hijack: a friend of mine is reading Jane Meyer's Dark Money and sent me this
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when i first heard the term a few years ago online i tried to work out what it meant and ended up thinking it was a tumblr term for fans of world of tanks. sadly the reality was even more stupid than that

whoever brought it back into currency in the 21st century cyber world definitely deserves a pay raise at whatever nazi intelligence agency they work for
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that was based on the assumption that roseweird doesn't watch msnbc, which i feel is the kind & fair thing to assume about anyone
#37
The classic bundle of sticks defense. Well played, to the OP.
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thank you.
#39
i was in a anti-tank squad in the finnish imperialist forces. help me
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there is only one way to turn that around my friend... comrade... tankie