#4761
"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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oldkrew bringing the heat
#4762
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my bones are actually the strongest. the best. haven't ever seen better bones unlike my opponents who have frail bones. sad!
#4763
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reminder that resistance exercise is crucial for continued bone density
#4764
UNUSUALY COOL
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glomper_stomper posted:

also i broke my hip



all my best for a speedy recovery.

#4765
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Petrol posted:

i urge all rhizzone posters to get stronger bones.



finally, someone picks up the slack left by SariBari

#4766
Dont Mess With Sucess
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Real life is not quyite as bad as I thought

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#4767
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Heck yeah. That's a type of phonebanking I can get on board with.
#4768
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Themselves posted:

reminder that resistance exercise is crucial for continued bone density



#resist

#4769
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the HR people at my job created a spreadsheet report for their own use that just appeared out of nowhere as the top result for my search for a technical document on the company's internal site. the spreadsheet has no restrictions on access. it lists the top 10000 or so search terms typed in by users of the HR department's own sub-site for employees last year. the #1 search was for "resign or retire"
#4770
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how to quit my company instantly, search rank number 1. "w2", search rank number 12.
#4771
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I want to quit my job cars how about you
#4772
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sure yeah i'm into that.
#4773
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End of the year baby.
#4774
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lately ive been thinking about becoming a postal worker. i need to do something non-profit/public interest for the government to wipe my ridiculous amount of debt clean in another 6.7 years, and it seems like a nice laidback job where you get to wear shorts and spend time outdoors.
#4775
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Postal worker is a fucked up job now with a ton of unpaid overtime & it's all temp workers. Also Amazon dot com owns your body if you work this job. Sorry.
#4776
Dont Mess With Sucess
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I need th ejob where I go around finding out whose job is relatively decent and tolerable and i just crank up the duties until the worker gets hooked to adialysis machine and their blood pressure is used to power the neon signs on the outside the building
#4777
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dang keven. i had like a glimmer of hope for a moment there
#4778
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It's still a good job if you can get in the union and hired full time and that may be an option where you are but go into it with eyes open, the usps has been strong armed into increased service by by Amazon but their budget has been cut drastically over the same time period.
#4779
"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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TG posted:

dang keven. i had like a glimmer of hope for a moment there



#4780
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Speaking as someone with a "good government job" if I didn't have access to the things I do I could very easily be doing the exact same work for half the money with no retirement (not as true anymore because I've worked my way into project management I guess). Don't just assume a job is good because it's for the govt........
#4781
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i guess we can't all luck out in stumbling into an administration job at the political party we're a militant for.
#4782
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tbf i talked about it with my friend who did postal work for a brief period. he did say that they spent the first 100 days or so trying to get him to quit because apparently once you get past that you are in the union or its impossible to fire you or something like that

will things get better when amazon unleashes its massive army of package delivery drones?
#4783
Dont Mess With Sucess
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TG posted:

will things get better when amazon unleashes its massive army of package delivery drones?


they will get worse in the short term, but then in the long term, when the drone system proves completely unsustainable and problematic, they'll expect human workers to meet the same targets and things will get worse

#4784
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#4785
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i've worked in refineries for 9 years now but only my recent experience with control systems (like controlling a valve based on a process variable like the pressure in a vessel or w/e) and seminars at various conferences (AFPM, etc) has taught me that refineries are susceptible to 1990s-era ransomware type attacks. And no one cares or is prepared. There have already been a handful of cases in the US and abroad. Get the right USB in one of the many, many available slots or w/e. I mean i have virtualbox & kali on my computer with mostly full admin rights right now at my plant.

Anyway, so that sounds really terrible, but today I was thinking about how every 2 or 4 years I have to prepare to be a scab against the USW. And it would probably get the refinery shut down permanently if it was revealed. But like it would be really easy for a union to literally actually sieze the means of production (and by means I mean pumps, compressors, reactors, distillation columns, tanks of raw material, etc). idk. weird thoughts.
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#4787
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roseweird posted:

registering for solidworks exam, has this disclaimer:

Export Eligibility Requirements. Please confirm:

I am not a citizen, national or resident of, and am not under the control of, the government of any country to which the United States has prohibited export of technical information, such as (as of 12/30/09): Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Syria.

I will not download or otherwise export or re-export the software, directly or indirectly, to the above-prohibited countries nor to citizens, national or residents of those countries.

I am not listed on the United States Department of Treasury list of Specially Designated Nationals, Specially Designated Terrorists, and Specially Designated Narcotics Traffickers, nor am I listed on the United States Department of Commerce Table of Denial Orders.

I will not download or otherwise export or re-export the software, directly or indirectly, to persons on the above-mentioned lists.

I will not use the software for, and will not allow the software to be used for, any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, for the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons of mass destruction.

I confirm the accuracy of the statements above.



Their list is out of date; it now includes Russia and Venezuela

#4788
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sunny posted:

i've worked in refineries for 9 years now but only my recent experience with control systems (like controlling a valve based on a process variable like the pressure in a vessel or w/e) and seminars at various conferences (AFPM, etc) has taught me that refineries are susceptible to 1990s-era ransomware type attacks. And no one cares or is prepared. There have already been a handful of cases in the US and abroad. Get the right USB in one of the many, many available slots or w/e. I mean i have virtualbox & kali on my computer with mostly full admin rights right now at my plant.

Anyway, so that sounds really terrible, but today I was thinking about how every 2 or 4 years I have to prepare to be a scab against the USW. And it would probably get the refinery shut down permanently if it was revealed. But like it would be really easy for a union to literally actually sieze the means of production (and by means I mean pumps, compressors, reactors, distillation columns, tanks of raw material, etc). idk. weird thoughts.



i can confirm that the oil & gas industry is in the Dark Ages on digital security compared to nearly every other industrial sector and, further, that they have no interest in hiring anyone to fix it for them

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#4790
"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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marijuana stores are all full of middle-aged women
#4791
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i had a discussion with a coworker over workplace systems the other day. she was telling me about her past job at amazon (her position was job posting & hiring) where the merit based system pushed employees to become more "innovative and efficient" workers. when i asked her about labor conditions from articles i read she said those were merely anecdotal and didn't represent the company as a whole. she also told me that workplace seniority is garbage because it prevents lazy/bad employees from being fired or laid off and that unions are the reason this inefficient system exists and slows down completing odd jobs "like replacing a lightbulb"

i didn't really know how to respond to all of that since i've never actually been in a union. so a few questions for everyone:

1. is there any case where you wouldn't support a union? like maybe they're collaborating with the bosses?
2. in a capitalist society, which system is least damaging (seniority, merit, hybrid)?
3. in a communist society, if a person does ineffective work are they just transferred to a different career field or what?
#4792
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#4793
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sunny posted:

i've worked in refineries for 9 years now but only my recent experience with control systems (like controlling a valve based on a process variable like the pressure in a vessel or w/e) and seminars at various conferences (AFPM, etc) has taught me that refineries are susceptible to 1990s-era ransomware type attacks. And no one cares or is prepared. There have already been a handful of cases in the US and abroad. Get the right USB in one of the many, many available slots or w/e. I mean i have virtualbox & kali on my computer with mostly full admin rights right now at my plant.

Anyway, so that sounds really terrible, but today I was thinking about how every 2 or 4 years I have to prepare to be a scab against the USW. And it would probably get the refinery shut down permanently if it was revealed. But like it would be really easy for a union to literally actually sieze the means of production (and by means I mean pumps, compressors, reactors, distillation columns, tanks of raw material, etc). idk. weird thoughts.


which is why theyre all under intense surveillance by dhs and the steelworkers locals get fairly sumptuous contracts in exchange for partnership with the oil companies. a steelworker steward spoke at may day here a few years ago telling people to 1) vote for bernie and 2) support the refineries expansion because it leads to more jobs

#4794
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that applies to all the associated trades in the refineries too by the way. not singling them out for abuse. although it is pretty funny what the steelworkers actually do all day. its even less work than we do.
#4795
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I went to the Redneck Revolt thing. It was like 4 other people that wanted to discuss Marxist Theory and weren't married to the brand. I made a lot of points about connecting with the non-white community and they went over well. They seem down to start going in depth with Capital and J Sakai. My years of posting really paid off tn
#4796
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our regional member meeting here got an attendance of 50 (7 of which are interested in joining party cells) and a whole lot of info to help us make the programme for the local elections here in 2018
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stegosaurus posted:

that applies to all the associated trades in the refineries too by the way. not singling them out for abuse. although it is pretty funny what the steelworkers actually do all day. its even less work than we do.



dude you work 2 hours per day out of a 12 hour shift and at my current plant (PA) and previous plant (LA) make $135k to $165k thanks to guaranteed overtime + deliberately lean staffing. I don't know much about the other trades since I spent 90%+ of my time in the same room as USW operators. I'm jealous of the people who got in at 18 with only HS, no school debt, etc. It's maybe 5% of the operators, but all of those people have house paid off, kids college paid off, and retirement set at ~$2mln-$3mln by age 40-45.

#4798
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stegosaurus posted:

sunny posted:

i've worked in refineries for 9 years now but only my recent experience with control systems (like controlling a valve based on a process variable like the pressure in a vessel or w/e) and seminars at various conferences (AFPM, etc) has taught me that refineries are susceptible to 1990s-era ransomware type attacks. And no one cares or is prepared. There have already been a handful of cases in the US and abroad. Get the right USB in one of the many, many available slots or w/e. I mean i have virtualbox & kali on my computer with mostly full admin rights right now at my plant.

Anyway, so that sounds really terrible, but today I was thinking about how every 2 or 4 years I have to prepare to be a scab against the USW. And it would probably get the refinery shut down permanently if it was revealed. But like it would be really easy for a union to literally actually sieze the means of production (and by means I mean pumps, compressors, reactors, distillation columns, tanks of raw material, etc). idk. weird thoughts.

which is why theyre all under intense surveillance by dhs and the steelworkers locals get fairly sumptuous contracts in exchange for partnership with the oil companies. a steelworker steward spoke at may day here a few years ago telling people to 1) vote for bernie and 2) support the refineries expansion because it leads to more jobs



1) security is very lax and there are no cameras beyond the parking lots because class I div II cameras are fucking expensive i guess? we did recently get a drone for temperature and emissions surveys. 2) it's the USCG not the DHS because refineries are mostly all FTZs 3) when it comes to contract negotations USW has no qualms about turning a couple turns on the right valves, bolts, etc, so that very important equipment fucks up royally when no one can be accountable, this would just be a new school way of doing it. 4) the instrumentations guys (IBEW union I think) would be the ones keeping an eye out on connection points into the system

#4799
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last year we had multiple people sneak into the plant to catch pookemons with no repercussions. and not long after that a crazy old lady wandered in and got like 3/4 of the way across the plant before someone was like "???" and she was completely out of her mind. apparently she was the town parade queen from the last year or something but she recently developed terrible dimentia or something. intrusion is just not worried about, just compliance. like we have barbed wire fences to guide the sailors from the tankers out so they don't come in the fence line because that's a rule
#4800
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oh ok thats different. the refineries here are all definitely dhs. and patrolled by off duty cops, surrounded by barbed wire with some sort of sensor running all through the fence. i dont doubt that the steelworkers could fuck things up, but the point is that they wouldnt monkeywrench their own retirement, that doesnt make any sense. unless a socialist movement could offer them an even better deal which isnt possible short term.