tears posted:

failed rhizzone projects such as “lets make a podcast”

also how fuckign dare you

Gibbonstrength posted:

tears posted:

failed rhizzone projects such as “lets make a podcast”

also how fuckign dare you

is anyone still doing that?

swampman posted:

if you have the book from black lives matter to black liberation, it has stuff you can copy. if not, i could help you tomorrow.

Horselord posted:

i fucking hate pamphlets. if you're walking down the street the last thing you want is someone to hand you 40,000 words in size 8 times new roman printed on a single sheet of a4 folded over

lmao if you seriously thought with a human brane that i created 1) a pamphlet explaining how the western working class was less revolutionary than a brick 2) a pamphlet commemorating the massacre of some communists in peru 30 years ago and 3) a pamphlet about how we should really stop bombing korea, in order to hand out to shoppers on the streets of britain rather than to give to other communists, and put on the internet for preservation purpouses

Edited by tears (Feb. 15, 2017 10:46:40)

Horselord posted:

In your case you believe it's 30 pages long

a pamphlet is an unbound, usually stapled, collection of pages folded in half, up to about 40 pages long, not to be confused with a booklet: the same but with a binding (the bit that defines a book), a leaflet: a single sheet of paper folded in half or more, or a flyer: something to try and get you to go into a club

jfc how do you people not know this lmao

if you would like to instead discuss books, flyers, leaflets, booklets, chapbooks, newspapers, cereal boxes, zines, letters or any other words + paper combinations please consult the relavant subcommittee (not me)

Edited by tears (Feb. 15, 2017 13:25:17)

Horselord posted:

also the wikipedia article on superprofits is horrendous holy shit

the irony of simultaniously stating that the information contained in a wikipedia article is bad will also derriding an attempt to make availible on the internet alternate information that was not there before...has not escaped me

Horselord posted:

somehow i don't think the first step in a protracted people's war is to confront an uninitiated person with a tome. you have to meet the people at the level they're at and then lead them forward. this is why day 1 of school is not theoretical physics but how to count to ten

at any rate if the intended audience for your pamphlets is prexisting communists who're looking for more material to study that's commendable but i think they're a little old fashioned. printing out words is gay lmao

i haven't read the material of the OP, but im guessing it isn't lukacs' theory of reification or why luxemburg's interpretation of capital volume 2 reproduction schemas is incorrect. that being said, you do indeed need to meet people where they're at. unfortunately, that means isolating the backwards, not pandering to them. but effective agitational work - which is different than propaganda in that it's intended to reach the broadest number of people - should naturally focus on relevant shit - police brutality being an obvious example. we should be clear about this distinction. the OP can hand out his pamphlets to alienated petty-bourgeois college students at an anti-war rally, as propaganda work, but one can hand out anti-police stuff as agitational material anytime and anywhere. maybe i don't understand this fully, tho.

ilmdge posted:

i understood that the op was talking about pamphlets for like communists who want to read more,

finally someone who understands,

anyway,

Belphegor posted:

tears what software do you use for formatting stuff that is not already in pamphlet form?

im so basic that if its an old print pamphlet i take photos on my phone, run it through an ocr appthen transfer to computer to clean. pamphlets are aranged in a knockoff word processer then just exported in paphlet format once im happy. considering the poor quality of alot of my historical stuff even this was aparently beyond most communists.

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moving on, it looks like this project is already a great success so far -

gibbonstrength is going to produce a pamphlet about how all australians are nazis, and also aparently finish the podcast, cool

swanpman is going to produce a factual omne about how the police are bad

c-man will make one about global labour arbitarage (*extremely impressed face*)

horselord has agreed to make two (leaflets?), a simple one about what unions are and a meta one about what makes a good paphlet, or leaflet.

good luck everyone ^_^

tears posted:

If after considering the history of the british working class since owenism, combine with the knowledge that millions of often very poorly educated workers and peasants have taken up arms across the world with a better grasp of marxist theory and practice than us, you think the lack of revolution in britain is because the pamphlets use too many big words and dont talk to peoples real interests: a greater share of the profits of imperialism; then i dont know what to say, maybe read some more pamphlets?

tears, a third worldist, smells bad: people in our country are all labour aristocrats, which is the same as being bourgeois, so we should never talk to them and just focus on ourselves and those who become communist on their own. socialism will never happen here and this is all pointless

me, handsome, lives in a flophouse: its bad to intentionally isolate yourself from the masses because you can't actually achieve anything that way ever. its important to spread our ideas as widely as possible from first principles because they're almost completely unknown here; and to gain prestige, goodwill and credibility by serving the people because "labour aristocrat" is a useless way to describe the many people who are seeing their economic status continually degrade at best and are literally dying of poverty en masse at worst. then we'll really have something cooking

Edited by Horselord (Feb. 15, 2017 19:03:11)