wasted posted:

lol whoa alex jones is even more batshit crazy than i thought

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

i bet he does

e: These are the twitter posting clients from his latest tweets. API doesn't specify device ID, but you can at least see the software varies, including different smartphones. With this in mind it's more likely he rambles a lot of stuff to aides who run off and format them into potential tweets, he approves the ones he likes and they get broadcast at set times.

Edited by Gssh (Feb. 10, 2017 02:45:34)

Gssh posted:

according to Trumplinologists, the iPhone tweets are from aides, but the Android tweets are all written by him

cars posted:

i am not really able to entertain the idea that the liberals i know are too stupid to understand how a factually correct left line tracing continuity from Obama to Trump implicates some of their behavior over the past eight years. I can't accept either that they are too weak-willed to adjust their own politics either right or left as the influences in their lives, most pointedly their relative position within the economy, suggest.

i think it's easy to forget that the majority of people out there are more focused on getting through a day of alienated work and talking about sunday's crazy football game than they are about how the deep state functions or w/e.

i mean maybe your work crew is different but from my experience the limited political discussions that do pop up are usually just headline bits about trump doing something crazy or how it wasn't obama's fault that congress didn't get along. then everybody goes back to work and any further thought is immediately forgotten

tears posted:

camera_obscura posted:
Maybe if I knew more about accelerationism


you gotta go fast

no the key of accelerationism is *they* go fast. you stay in once place and post, fatly, on the internet

toyotathon posted:

does the endgame of accelerationism involve communist machines, that allow people to quit their jobs, being sold by capitalists on the market? cuz if so then lol

if you mean

does the new meaning of accelerationism put forward by nick srnicek ('inventing the future') and the rest of his coterie of verso hounds boil down to "capitalism will automate itself out of existence and we can help this along by voting for labour until they give us a universal basic income, yadda yadda something yadda, fully automated luxury communism"?

then the answer is yes

Benjamin Noys, who actually coined the term accelerationism, does indeed present it somewhat like this, as “an exotic variant of la politique du pire: if capitalism generates its own forces of dissolution then the necessity is to radicalise capitalism itself: the worse the better.” But perhaps Noys’ critique is a bit unfair. Accelerationism is a new response to the specific conditions of today’s neoliberal, globalized and networked, capitalism. But it is solidly rooted in traditional Marxist thought. Marx himself writes both of capitalism’s revolutionary effects, and of the contradictions that render it unviable. On the one hand, Marx and Engels write in the Manifesto that capitalism is characterized by

Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation… All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

Urbandale posted:

you should click that link then. neocons were trots devoted to a mechanistic theory of history that required american imperial might to accelerate the sweeping away of reactionary regimes in targetted countries.

basically the historical equivalent of of how the ISO went from being the center-right wing of american socialists to openly embracing the missile with the iran-iraq war and yugoslavia. cliff was a shachtmanite etc etc

so you're saying neocons are secretly marxist accelerationists...? interesting..

cars posted:

oh okay you edited your post to replace "we" with "trots".

I do this every post